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I haven't converted to Outlook on Hotmail yet, I'm happy with what I got. I'll just let the inevitable occur. They say all accounts will convert automatically at a given date or time - I don't remember when. I like the junk mail handling on Hotmail; but I notice my gmail junk has gone way down, since I activated the filter. I can use Google apps or Outlook either way. I used Google apps to set the filter. I probably need to drop the Postini service, as gmail probably does a better job.