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The article is pretty much dead on. I have been saying the same things for a long time. M$ has NEVER said what infringes, just that Linux does infringe, but pay us and we will let you be.
I have rid my house of M$ products and if I could I would rid the workplace as well. In fact for a couple of small companies I consult for I have already.
The only reason M$ ever 'cared' about Linux was to try to make it run better on Hyper-V, their VM offering (that few use).
I have rid my house of M$ products and if I could I would rid the workplace as well. In fact for a couple of small companies I consult for I have already.
The only reason M$ ever 'cared' about Linux was to try to make it run better on Hyper-V, their VM offering (that few use).
as their track record in court on patent and copyright litigation shows they lose a lot more than they win, and when they lose they payout more than they ever collect in winning. But it could be just a protection scheme of threats with menaces as you suggest may be the case.
The interesting thing is if the big game makers do move away from Windows and DirectX to Open Standards then a very big hole in the Microsoft activities to create vendor lock-in begins to form and threaten the MS intent along those lines.
The interesting thing is if the big game makers do move away from Windows and DirectX to Open Standards then a very big hole in the Microsoft activities to create vendor lock-in begins to form and threaten the MS intent along those lines.
There's no equivalent open source replacement for DirectX, in terms of quality. Worse is open source (eg OpenGL) is often a moving, or even disappearing target.
So the fact that OpenGL is supported on more operating systems means nothing?
"So the fact that OpenGL is supported on more operating systems means nothing?"
Short answer? It means absolutely nothing. Why? Drivers!?!?!? And market.
If Win8 does not destroy MS, nothing, absolutely nothing will. It survived Vista and its still king. Why? Because Microsoft has power, support and kick ass tools.
Name a good game and/or engine that is OpenGL only and does not use a VM to run...so, Minecraft, RuneScape, Spiral Knights and Bloodline Champions are out of the question. Plus, the rest that run on a JVM or .Net or Mono. Oh, and don't forget all the PS3 games, Wii games and heck, pretty much every console game ever...You are left with...Rage? We know how that went...
Big game companies aim for the money and at this moment in time, that sight is aimed straight at the iOS, 360, PS3, Wii, Flash, Windows, HTML5 and Android platforms. In no specific order. What API will they use if they had to actually pick just one? DirectX 9 and/or 11 or OpenGL ES 2.0 . Not Open GL 2,3,4 or some other thing.
(About me: Windows user, IE9 Canvas is awesome!!, never really use IE at all, Firefox FTFW!, Hate Chrome-its useless, never tried anything *inux(wtf for!?), Mac OS is of no interest to me, I'm all for Ouya, If the xbox720 leak is true I'm so totally gonna get me one of those!)
Short answer? It means absolutely nothing. Why? Drivers!?!?!? And market.
If Win8 does not destroy MS, nothing, absolutely nothing will. It survived Vista and its still king. Why? Because Microsoft has power, support and kick ass tools.
Name a good game and/or engine that is OpenGL only and does not use a VM to run...so, Minecraft, RuneScape, Spiral Knights and Bloodline Champions are out of the question. Plus, the rest that run on a JVM or .Net or Mono. Oh, and don't forget all the PS3 games, Wii games and heck, pretty much every console game ever...You are left with...Rage? We know how that went...
Big game companies aim for the money and at this moment in time, that sight is aimed straight at the iOS, 360, PS3, Wii, Flash, Windows, HTML5 and Android platforms. In no specific order. What API will they use if they had to actually pick just one? DirectX 9 and/or 11 or OpenGL ES 2.0 . Not Open GL 2,3,4 or some other thing.
(About me: Windows user, IE9 Canvas is awesome!!, never really use IE at all, Firefox FTFW!, Hate Chrome-its useless, never tried anything *inux(wtf for!?), Mac OS is of no interest to me, I'm all for Ouya, If the xbox720 leak is true I'm so totally gonna get me one of those!)
Valves Source engine supports both OpenGL and DirectX, OpenGL is used on Linux and PS3 versions.
The PS3 uses OpenGL wrappers.
And you can use both together on a PC, you can use DirectInput and DirectSound while using OpenGL.
Valve has also proven that OpenGL runs faster on Windows and Linux machines than Direct3D.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/133824-valve-opengl-is-faster-than-directx-even-on-windows
The PS3 uses OpenGL wrappers.
And you can use both together on a PC, you can use DirectInput and DirectSound while using OpenGL.
Valve has also proven that OpenGL runs faster on Windows and Linux machines than Direct3D.
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/133824-valve-opengl-is-faster-than-directx-even-on-windows
Two things are going to happen this fall. Windows 8, and substantial Open GL improvements and standards. And as this happens, and MS revenues drop (Corps will not buy into W8, but the kiddy and grandfatether consumer will), the number of sales will be at a level to even sustain the current level of MS employment and support. Look for massive layoffs in 2013-2014 from Microsoft.
Microsoft is not the car industry, though it could be considered as such, because of all the consulting firms that use W7. Is the government going to do a bail-out of MS in 2014? The consultants can switch to supporting Linux and Apple products.
Microsoft is not the car industry, though it could be considered as such, because of all the consulting firms that use W7. Is the government going to do a bail-out of MS in 2014? The consultants can switch to supporting Linux and Apple products.
Sounds like they are following in Apple's footsteps and should start filing in every country that will let them. Maybe some one will agree with them at some point.
Does M$ own them and using them as the "example" for others?
I have to say that I think Windows 8 is horrible also. Maybe good for tablets but not for desktops.
Now patent trolling again. Microsoft just warms the cockles of my heart, the loving thoughts are welling up inside me.
The Justice systems has to do something about these software patents, it's monster that needs to be slain.
Now patent trolling again. Microsoft just warms the cockles of my heart, the loving thoughts are welling up inside me.
The Justice systems has to do something about these software patents, it's monster that needs to be slain.
if you give them a finger they take the whole hand, and the squeeze never stops.
Boycott everything that has Microsoft inside.
EVERYTHING. And also everyone who is friends with them (Including Apple), and even the brand of cola they drink.
Never buy goods from a criminal...
Boycott everything that has Microsoft inside.
EVERYTHING. And also everyone who is friends with them (Including Apple), and even the brand of cola they drink.
Never buy goods from a criminal...
Of course, M$ is the 800 lb gorilla so it draws a lot of heat. Frankly, I don't mind a patent holder asserting their ownership to their advantage. Even M$. Heck, where would we be without them? Stuck with Apple and BSD Unix? Please. Other posters have said that M$ should declare EXACTLY what is protected. True enough. They will not do so until their feet are held to the fire. Who is gonna do that? Motorola? Maybe but they will just chose to work around activesync. As any breathing rational person already knows the patent/judicial system is broken. Who is gonna fix it? Congress? Hahahahahahahahaha
QUOTE: Stuck with Apple and BSD Unix?
Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like a huge improvement, in fact.
Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like a huge improvement, in fact.
I agree, why buy from mobsters. Also, I don't see where MS should be allowed to force hardware vendors to use their product. They don't OWN the hardware like apple. I think the hardware vendors need to have a clear choice to install whatever OS the customer wants, be it Windows 2000, XP, 7, Ubuntu. Xubuntu, or some other one, and definitely NOT be forced to put Windows 8 on it because their "software partner" says they have to. With the huge drives now, in fact, maybe the hardware vendors could install multiple OS's from the get-go, say, a customizable Linux distro as first choice, then a Windows 7 option, and a mac alternative. All of these would, of course cost the hardware maker nothing. If MS then wanted to charge an activation fee to the CONSUMER for this pre-installed OS, that would be where they would make their precious profit.
The hardware could sell for a lot less that way. On mobile devices this is a whole 'nother story because the hardware and software have to be tightly integrated. Maybe MS should drop the new desktop OS's they keep trying to push off on everyone and concentrate on the mobile market exclusively, in competition with other companies that do it better. The monopoly has to end.
What's more, I think MS keeps changing things because patents EXPIRE after 7 years. ANYONE can use a patent after that time to build a product. SO going back 10 years or more to claim you had it first it pointless. (If this has changed it needs to change back.) This fosters innovation, while allowing people to use older technology without spending so much.
OTHERWISE the first person to patent the wheel would still be the exclusive manufacturer of tires. Ridiculous, as are most things in the modern world.
The hardware could sell for a lot less that way. On mobile devices this is a whole 'nother story because the hardware and software have to be tightly integrated. Maybe MS should drop the new desktop OS's they keep trying to push off on everyone and concentrate on the mobile market exclusively, in competition with other companies that do it better. The monopoly has to end.
What's more, I think MS keeps changing things because patents EXPIRE after 7 years. ANYONE can use a patent after that time to build a product. SO going back 10 years or more to claim you had it first it pointless. (If this has changed it needs to change back.) This fosters innovation, while allowing people to use older technology without spending so much.
OTHERWISE the first person to patent the wheel would still be the exclusive manufacturer of tires. Ridiculous, as are most things in the modern world.
...what stuns me is that with so many communities & forums out there (like this one) discussing Microsoft... how is it that they miss all the brilliant suggestions & potential ideas coming for free from people who critique their software.
They have no one to blame but themselves, because they clearly must think they know better than everyone else, and don't need to listen to advice... and what happens? I give you Windows 8.
Hey Microsoft, it's easy... put your lawyers back in your pockets & LISTEN to the criticisms people make of your software... your profits lie in fixing those things, which: 1 - makes your software better & less annoying, 2 - fixes problems which stifle development by yourselves AND other parties, and trust me on this one, 3 - will inspire new ideas as you work through solving these problems PROPERLY instead of the lazy way you often go about it.
They have no one to blame but themselves, because they clearly must think they know better than everyone else, and don't need to listen to advice... and what happens? I give you Windows 8.
Hey Microsoft, it's easy... put your lawyers back in your pockets & LISTEN to the criticisms people make of your software... your profits lie in fixing those things, which: 1 - makes your software better & less annoying, 2 - fixes problems which stifle development by yourselves AND other parties, and trust me on this one, 3 - will inspire new ideas as you work through solving these problems PROPERLY instead of the lazy way you often go about it.
that Microsoft should open a new department that would troll all the communities and forums for suggestions from people who like to hear themselves talk?
As a student I sent an email to Microsoft about how it wasn't realistic to expect students to buy Office Pro or Ultimate in order to get MS Access or to buy Access as a standalone product for entirely too much money. My main argument was that students were poor and didn't want to spend money (that they didn't have) so that they could take the one class required for their major, that required the use of Access. Especially when you consider that they would rarely, if ever, use it again. I'm not vain enough to think that my email was the one that brought this: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/pd/productID.229301900/flyout.true
about although I like to think it played a minuscule part. I do feel like Microsoft listens to people that approach them in a respectful, sincere, and appropriate manner. They do not however listen to people blowing steam up their own hind parts.
The fact of the matter is that we can talk, debate, philosophize, speculate, and argue for the rest of our lives about what's wrong with Microsoft, Windows 8, Apple, any or all of the Linux distros, patent laws, the trends in technology, or even society but in the end--unless we are willing to do something about it--all of that talk is just a lot of steam. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that it's kind of ridiculous to expect Microsoft to pay attention to the steam that isn't even directed to them. If any of us really want to make an argument or point to Microsoft we should send them an email. And if we really want someone to read it we should check our emotions at door and explain our point of view in a clear and logical way, keeping in mind that there is a bigger picture in the world of which our point of view is only ever a very small piece.
-From someone with a point of view and a big mouth
As a student I sent an email to Microsoft about how it wasn't realistic to expect students to buy Office Pro or Ultimate in order to get MS Access or to buy Access as a standalone product for entirely too much money. My main argument was that students were poor and didn't want to spend money (that they didn't have) so that they could take the one class required for their major, that required the use of Access. Especially when you consider that they would rarely, if ever, use it again. I'm not vain enough to think that my email was the one that brought this: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/pd/productID.229301900/flyout.true
about although I like to think it played a minuscule part. I do feel like Microsoft listens to people that approach them in a respectful, sincere, and appropriate manner. They do not however listen to people blowing steam up their own hind parts.
The fact of the matter is that we can talk, debate, philosophize, speculate, and argue for the rest of our lives about what's wrong with Microsoft, Windows 8, Apple, any or all of the Linux distros, patent laws, the trends in technology, or even society but in the end--unless we are willing to do something about it--all of that talk is just a lot of steam. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that it's kind of ridiculous to expect Microsoft to pay attention to the steam that isn't even directed to them. If any of us really want to make an argument or point to Microsoft we should send them an email. And if we really want someone to read it we should check our emotions at door and explain our point of view in a clear and logical way, keeping in mind that there is a bigger picture in the world of which our point of view is only ever a very small piece.
-From someone with a point of view and a big mouth
Maybe we're a little too hard on MS. They are after all a business with stock holders and need to show a profit. Open Source will never be profitable but maybe if MS played with Open Source say better then Apple they would renew their reputation? Probably not. I still can't figure out why Apple is the darling child. Let me see propitiatory hardware and software. Apple's success in my eye's is all the APP's available, wait let me see, wasn't that MS strategy 20 years ago?
Apple make their own hardware and software to sell you as one unit and you can always go buy someone else's gear.
But Microsoft only makes the software then uses strong-arm tactics to get the majority of the hardware people to put their software on their hardware, thus limiting people's choices of what to buy.
Nearly twenty years ago when Microsoft started to ramp up their pressure and strong-arm tactics on the hardware manufacturers the Microsoft senior management (the guys that own the controlling interest of the voting stock) stated their long term aim was to have everyone using a PC locked into using Microsoft software, and that's been their main guiding light ever since. They don't really care about software security ot Internet security, just about what can be done to force people further along their planned path of vendor lock-in to Microsoft software.
But Microsoft only makes the software then uses strong-arm tactics to get the majority of the hardware people to put their software on their hardware, thus limiting people's choices of what to buy.
Nearly twenty years ago when Microsoft started to ramp up their pressure and strong-arm tactics on the hardware manufacturers the Microsoft senior management (the guys that own the controlling interest of the voting stock) stated their long term aim was to have everyone using a PC locked into using Microsoft software, and that's been their main guiding light ever since. They don't really care about software security ot Internet security, just about what can be done to force people further along their planned path of vendor lock-in to Microsoft software.
"Nearly twenty years ago when Microsoft started to ramp up their pressure and strong-arm tactics on the hardware manufacturers the Microsoft senior management (the guys that own the controlling interest of the voting stock) stated their long term aim was to have everyone using a PC locked into using Microsoft software, and that's been their main guiding light ever since."
That's the point of big companies, isn't it? No disrespect, but you sound as if that is not expected from any company that sells anything. Fast food? Games? Sodas? If any company wanted to compete with anyone and not try to be superior and control the market, they would just put their "product" on paper and pass it around and say "Let the best one win." lol That's not how to win!
That's the point of big companies, isn't it? No disrespect, but you sound as if that is not expected from any company that sells anything. Fast food? Games? Sodas? If any company wanted to compete with anyone and not try to be superior and control the market, they would just put their "product" on paper and pass it around and say "Let the best one win." lol That's not how to win!
1. I was pointing out why some people don't like the way Microsoft behave when they said people were too hard on Microsoft.
2. Yes, companies are supposed to make money, but by selling a better product or using better marketing systems, not by acting like standover merchants and doing economically what they'd be charged over as a criminal if done with physical force.
2. Yes, companies are supposed to make money, but by selling a better product or using better marketing systems, not by acting like standover merchants and doing economically what they'd be charged over as a criminal if done with physical force.
Corporate law essentially creates perverse incentives to behave badly in the market, exactly the way Microsoft behaves badly in the market. Yeah, I absolutely expect gigantic public corporations to behave that way. That doesn't make it okay, though.
QUOTE: they would just put their "product" on paper and pass it around and say "Let the best one win." lol That's not how to win!
You seem to be one of those people who think that "winning" is not about doing well. Those people think that "winning" is making someone else lose.
That is, of course, ridiculous . . . antisocial . . . sociopathic.
QUOTE: they would just put their "product" on paper and pass it around and say "Let the best one win." lol That's not how to win!
You seem to be one of those people who think that "winning" is not about doing well. Those people think that "winning" is making someone else lose.
That is, of course, ridiculous . . . antisocial . . . sociopathic.
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