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And as Ayn Rand, as I indicated earlier, did partake in social security (and in her hubby's name) and other socialized programs while some of her followers didn't, she proved her own ideals did not work... or lacked the time to see them in action, but either way I'm glad she took them because people suffering as slaves or in poverty is something I don't care for and especially in a country that promotes the pursuit of happiness and (purportedly) doesn't allow one to use their freedom to rob others of theirs'... but price wars and other tangents to drive out competition are best served another day...