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        <title><![CDATA[Not misinformed]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Actually I was looking at my languages selection on the GS2 I own. Perhaps the Sprint version of the phone was changed to only have Spanish and English since the market was the U.S.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Xennex1170]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:39:47 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Never said it was inconceivable]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[My point was you are a slave to Apple if you always &quot;Have to have&quot; the latest iDevice.  It is as simple as that.  I would say the same thing about someone that always has to have the latest Android Device.If your iPhone 4 was serving your needs, why did you 'need' an iPhone 4S or an iPhone 5?  If not for the 'cool factor' and thus the marketing hype that surrounds Apple.As I stated the iPhone is an OK device, I simply find Apple too restrictive (being forced into iTunes, iCloud...)  for instance, when I bought my Samsung 4G was not available as an option on the iPhone (nor for the next year and a half), so I was glad to have a 4G phone.  Currently 4G LTE is crippled on the iPhone 5 not allowing you to take a call and use data at the same time.The iPhone 5 has problems with Maps and broken Youtube...The iPhone may have been the first phone to have touch screen, gestures... but tablet PCs had been around for years, so I would hardly call it revolutionary, simply the first product to catch mass appeal.  Further Apple has taken MANY ideas from Android the &quot;Notification Shade&quot; comes to mind, which was in Android YEARS before it appeared in iOS, so that revolutionary status has long since past.I am still quite happy with my Samsung phone and when my current contract is up I will buy another Android based phone.  At this point barring some major change I will be staying with Android.  I currently have 2 Android Phones (1 work, 1 personal), and an Android Tablet.  there are now 5 Android Phones and 3 Android Tablets in the house.  It simply would not make sense to move to Apple and lose all the Apps I have invested in...I recommend phones and tablets for people here at work all the time. I always tell everyone the same thing.  If they have an Apple and your happy with it, it probably makes sense to stay there especially if they have a phone and a tablet or have purchased a lot of apps.  Same is true for Android.  For newcomers it is always try them both out and figure out what you want before you decide.  In fact just this week I have set up three Android Devices and one iPhone5 for new users with our company.There is nothing inherently 'bad' about being a loyal Apple customer, or a loyal Android customer.  However, I would not say Apple hasn't let their customers down.  Remember antenna-gate for the iPhone 4?  How about dropping Google Maps and Youtube?  Google Maps is a far superior and well tested solution compared to Apple Maps, why not give customers an option?  Youtube is by far the most popular site of its type, why not maintain it for your customers?  Releasing the iPhone 5 without full support of the 4G LTE standard.  These acts certainly are not in the best interest of their customers.  Many Apple fans will vigorously defend Apple for these things and would lambaste an Android manufacturer for the same types of shortcomings.  Would you?Reasonable Web Browsing is more a function of available bandwidth than phone brand.  My Blackberry always did fine if connected to WIFI.  Even 3G is far too slow for most of todays sites and AT&amp;T is really good about not having enough bandwidth for the number of phones in a given area, which can bring even 4G users to their knees.I don't care what you (or anyone else) buys or supports, I just ask that you acknowledge why you are doing it.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:50:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[um hello....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I totally get your point about customizability.  I, frankly, do not have the time to do that for my phone.  And, I don't think that a majority of cell phone users do that, even most Android phone owners.  I find the apps in the app store adequate for the most part.  If anything, I would create my own app if necessary.  With 600,000 apps available, that's hardly a small garden, regardless of the perceived wall.I also think that I covered the reasons for choosing iPhone.  Why is it so inconceivable that someone would prefer an arguably more stylish phone that has more than adequate features?  Apple marketing?  What marketing?  I haven't seen a single iPhone advertisement, aside from their annual release video.  I liked the first iPhone because it was an offshoot of their innovative mp3 player (the round dial was innovative for it's time).  And, because it had a superior browser to anything that I was aware of at the time.  All of the following upgraded iPhone models were great too.  I'm sorry, I see every single phone with a touchscreen and finger-gestures as copy-cats of the iPhone--sans iPhone style.I know where I stand.  I like the iPhone.  I trust Apple's next iPhone will be just as nice with slightly upgraded specs and hardware.  Sure, other manufacturers will continually try to stay slightly ahead of the curve, but they don't get the style aspect in their phone designs.  Apple's first iPhone was absolutely revolutionary and innovative.  It was so far ahead of the curve at the time, that I was completely sold.  Heck, I waited for years to be able to do reasonable web browsing, such as checking my bank account, on my phone.  iPhone was the first phone to offer that in manner that worked well.  So, AGAIN, why is that so bad that millions of people are loyal to them and trust them for that?  They have not let us down so far.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:17:09 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yes you are]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If you are 'have to have' the latest iDevice, you are a slave to their marketing.I have had both an iPhone and an iPad.  They were both 'OK', but I found them FAR to restrictive.  I like the freedom to build things my way.  I don't want to be locked into iTunes or the Apple App Store.I will take my rooted Samsung Galaxy Infuse (currently running Jelly Bean) over ANY iDevice any day of the week and twice on Sunday.If you like living in a walled garden Apple products are fairly decent devices.  Not withstanding the current issues with maps, no youtube...Some of us prefer to see what is outside that walled garden.  Yeah it might be a little shocking at first, but it is far more satisfying, at least to me, to be able to set up my own garden, and modify at will.  I would not prefer to be in the same Walled Garden with millions of others, but that is just me.I don't work like everybody else.  I want my device customized to what I need not set up as Apple thinks best.I have said it a million times there are certain people (and I work with all types) that will always like Apple.  Some people prefer Ice Cream or Jelly Beans.  It is neither right or wrong, but you should at least admit where you stand and how you came to stand there.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 05:29:08 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[not, me--the phone]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I wasn't saying that I am cooler with an iPhone.  I am saying that the iPhone is cooler.  I went to an AT&amp;T store and saw/held a Samsung Galaxy S III.  While it was lightweight, thin, and had a nice size screen, I found the home screen too busy in the display model setup (I'm sure this can be changed--but, it affected my first impression).  And, the phone did not feel solid.  I personally prefer the iPhone's ergonomics (iPhone 5).  I'm sorry, but in my opinion, the aesthetics are simply superior.  The beveled edges, the smokey differing hues of blacks, the architectural design.  Honestly, the Samsung looked like a thinner/larger version of the iPhone 3, and I'm over that design.Anyways, I believe I said the PHONE was cool--NOT that it made me look cool or be cool.iPhones are not expensive at all, with the upgrade price, which most people are purchasing them at.  Same or similar price to the Samsung, if I recall correctly.Again, am I REALLY such a slave to Apple's marketing, when their strongest marketing is the product itself?]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:11:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Agreed re &quot;Play&quot;]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree that many of those people will only &quot;Play&quot; with the devices and not actually purchase.  However the point is that they are filling up stores to capacity with folks interested in the devices, to whatever end.  I can't imagine that same scenario, at least not consistently, from release to release, for other brands.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:48:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple is a Fashion statement]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Apple is a Fashion statement for the technologically-challenged; denial works until it doesn't and it's seen that the Emperor has Old clothes.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:48:32 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The Irreplacable Piece..]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[....that Apple can't buy, litigate, or wish back into existence in Cupertino: Steve Jobs.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim_Lasson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:15:39 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Rich Rich]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[No we will not call you stupid as that is rude and we need to improve the discourse not debase it. It is a shocking admission that Apple has managed to so completely subsume you into its marketing machine that you actually believe you are better off and cool. How can you be cool when so many consumers have the same cool item. I always thought to be cool you needed to be different, to stand out from the crowd. The original iPhone was simply a design success. It was crap as a phone but it looked and felt great. The 4 &amp; 5 series iPhone are unpleasant to hold and use and lack features for the prices they demand.]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:55:45 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Blaming manufacturers and providers, not Android]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[May I politely suggest that, if keeping up with the latest OS versions is a non-negotiable requirement for you, you pick a better suited manufacturer and/or cellphone provider next time? Motorola was known to not be all that interested in updates on their hardware a year ago. That's why my next phone will bear the Nexus stamp.Since that is no longer the case, Motorola will probably be at the top of your list again, given the new direction that being absorbed into Google has given it. They've even started offering an unlocking service for their phones.The Photon has Android 2.3 available, which is the same as for my Atrix 4G now - having been released originally with 2.2. Not bad, since that is what 60% of the Android devices out there still use. Ice Cream Sandwich has a 21% share.Currently Motorola has announced that any phone released in 2011 (the Photon came out in August 2011, so it is a year old, not two) would either see Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) - or see their owners offered 100$ rebate:https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/documents/detail/2/motorola-jelly-bean-rebate_en-US Any smartphone will eventually be limited in how many versions of the OS it can run without running into hardware limitations. Apple is no different.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Stalemate]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 13:46:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Request to Apple for iPhone 6 ( iPhone 5 opportunities missed )]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[1. Extend the scope &amp; length of your warranty (you can afford it &amp; it      won't cost you much as your equipment is of superior reliability!)2. Improve its ruggedness, survive a reasonable drop without cracking ect.  3. Cream the opposition, make it water proof!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitramd]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:52:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[That's fine but]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Don't rely in Apple Maps or whatever they call it to find your way anywhere. Apparently there is no function to get directions when you walk.Yep I know Apple admits that they have Issues with their App and expect most of their customers to Grab the Google option which Apple used to use till Google became too much of a competitor.Seems that not all change is for the better though at least this time you don't have to hold the handset in a certain way so that it sort of works. Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:39:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[IOS 6 Mapping!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Some one is sweating at Apple for that Map release.Agree with you on the fully charge annoyance on Samsung.(which other features on your Epic did you find unsatisfactory performance).  However for cost effectiveness, functions &amp; reliability, I'm a happy with my old Samsung GT-15500 (no shaking needed yet &amp; I don't expect iPhone features/performance at 1/5 the equivalent data/mins plan price). Reliability problems strike all makes, I have just fixed an iPhone 3, loose connection to the screen, the owner was going to bin it!Will the iPhone 5 allow for future &quot;unauthorized&quot; simple fixes?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitramd]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:39:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[iPhone 5]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Contrary to Dave the IT Guy's assertion, some people buy iPhones because of their functionality. I'm trashing my BlackBerry because the iPhone offers a touch screen, better mapping, and several favourite apps (Evernote, a wine cellar database, QuickOffice, TripCase, HanDBase...). Worse email client, though, and missing conditional call forwarding, but I can find work-arounds for those. But I'm staying away until the fever dies down a little.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dsigetich@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:30:21 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[iPhone vs Samsung for instance]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It really is true that Samsung seems to be catching up to iPhones... however one of the big differences is that the features in the iPhone are not just displayed there, they actually work.  With Samsung and other Android systems they are unreliably functioning like as if you have to keep shaking the device to get them to work.  Like the stupid battery fully charged notification in the Samsung Epic - there is no way to turn it off so in the middle of the night it starts beeping every few minutes to tell you the battery is full.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dan@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:52:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I disagree with that &quot;Cool factor&quot; is the only thing driving sales]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Full disclosure I don't own a iPhone but friends and family do.  I have been a Android user since Palm went out of business.  I bought my Motorola Photon a couple years ago and haven't received one significant OS update since; this is important to me since I cannot define a proxy on Gingerbread without rooting my phone.  My son is enjoying the immediate benefit of IOS 6 on this 4th Generation IPhone that day it went live.When looking for a new phone am I going to by another Android that is immediately out of date?  Hell no.  Technology improves quickly and Apple keeps all their customers on the cusp; period.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dsalter@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:43:20 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Shaun Beighle's quote]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Shaun Beighle, CIO at the International Republican Institute, said in the consumer market the iPhone will continue to reign supreme, simply because the average user doesnt want to deal with learning a new operating platform.I might be looking at this incorrectly, but isn't android the OS on the most phones world wide? If that's right then the average user not wanting to deal with learning a new operating platform would mean that they would stick with Android. That would not lead to Apple reigning supreme but to Android reigning supreme.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ZiggyBoomBox]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:27:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apple is not the place to look for innovation anymore]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Can Apple innovate? Of course they can. Will they, every again? Not on the iPhone, in any significant way. Simple put, innovation implies a risk, a gamble. You did something crazy, and it caught on... innovation is really just that, a judgement call. If it's not subject to failure, that's a pretty good indication you're just extending what already works. That's all over the iPhone 5, as it should be. And of course, if your risk is not well received, you may lose customers. Apple doesn't have much to worry about, as long as they keep the iPhone relevant. There are many iPhone users who are simply not going to look anywhere else for a smartphone upgrade. The iPhone 5 is less about luring in potential Samsung SIII buyers than it is luring in current iPhone 3GS or iPhone 4 buyers. Or 4S... Apple gets more people breaking their contracts to get the latest thing than any other smartphone company. Apple also delivers just one iPhone per year. They absolutely have to get that right. They're on top, and it's much easier to imagine falling than to imagine claiming more phone market share. All of this means that it's in Apple's best interest to keep doing what they did last year, only in a 2012 footprint. Which is exactly what the iPhone 5 does. That's incremental change, though, no revolutions, thus, no potential to be judged as innovative. In fact, the one big hardware change is the docking connector, and that's also the one big controversy. That's fairly low risk... it may have a few buyers waiting to upgrade, but it's not as if every iPhone user has a stockpile of expensive add-ons. They've managed to keep annoying the Europeans by not going to microUSB, but no more so than with the previous models. Some of this is just keeping up with the Joneses (and in particular, Samsung Jones and Motorola Jones) -- the old dock connector was looking pretty thick, and didn't make it easy to put the headphone jack on the same edge.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hazydave]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:15:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Cook n Apple]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Was Jobs full of hype or did he have the midas touch of judging what people liked &amp; needed?Mr Cook has a tough act to follow, and Wall street is watching his every move.Their main worries are with Apple maintaining improving their margins. They identify risk from Android growing, achieving,  benefiting from &amp; eating away the networking effect that Apple has enjoyed so far alone with the help of its walled garden enhancing utility.Is this why they are litigating so hard against Android through Samsung?Quicker to do for them than innovating?  If this happens, then will the network providers reduce the subsidy on iPhones forced on them by Apple (little to zero on Android), and with it goes that handsome margin.Innovation has also improved their margins by, Apple investing, building factories to manufacture the new component designs. The companies/countries benefiting, obviously give them the lower unit costs now &amp; for future contracts. Is a new connector &amp; bigger screen enough to do this? If your not going forwards in business, your loosing.  My feeling is that Apple looks impressive, but its stock valuation is like a bubble despite its mega bucks reserves. If it is such a vigorous innovative company why such a low stock price/ earnings ratio, why are they just sitting on their reserves in low tax havens, buying back stock, suing competitors, instead of investing in R&amp;D, revolutionary new production lines &amp; factories? Looks awfully defensive, like the conservative iPhone 5 iteration, or is this just Tim, under the spotlight, carefully finding the direction that will suit Apple at the start of its middle age and his own style of management?Maybe they have lost their touch, just like Nokia,  Motorola &amp; all the others that were at the top of the heap!Well thats the way the Cook'ie crumbles, and with it the Dow Jones as Apple is such a large part of it!]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Nitramd]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:14:31 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It will work]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[as soon as you spend $30 for this absolutely cool iAdaptor.  You will probably need about 10 of them  But they are so cool!]]></description>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 06:35:17 -0700</pubDate>
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