I have to tell you, as a former Lotus Notes/Domino Administrator, Notes/Domino is NOT dead at all! It is very much alive and still innovating. There are still plenty of companies and a LOT of government agencies/contractors, as well as schools, that use Notes. The problem is, a lot of organizations haven't upgraded in a long time, or have not taken advantage of the new templates, which is why most people think it's dead or hasn't changed at all. I'm not saying everything was perfect in 8.0/8.5, but a lot of things certainly improved, and there are still a lot of improvements in the works as well. Not to mention, it's SOOOO much easier setting up and administering a Domino server compared to Exchange!