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        <title><![CDATA[Lawyers may know more than you think]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have a background in both IT systems and law (I worked 15 years as a software engineer before I went to law school) and I have no doubt that the law firm mentioned came to the correct conclusion. Apart from probably using a cloud-based storage for saving an additional copy of my encrypted backups I would be extremely reluctant to move anything to the cloud.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Barker]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 03:43:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[And when the Real Store is unaffected]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[But still no longer able to trade because of some others failure?If the Actual Store is Burnt Down or otherwise adversely impacted by something aren't they then covered by Insurance? When their Web Site goes down through the fault of another they are not covered and as such eat the loss.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 13:32:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Some software products do have good security, but the major]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[proprietary companies who keep their code secret don't have any decent security at all. Because if they did they couldn't make more money off you by selling you their security software.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:25:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[This is only the beginning...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I believe just like with 9/11 it will take a catastrophic event before things really change. Hardware Software companies are not yet really security minded. If they where the constant bugs, patches and holes would not be the norm. Companies put out products still to this day that don't employ even moderate security measures. When there is a security breach it seems everybody just looks around and says we don't know what happened.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[ksec2960]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:58:04 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Yeah but what do a buch of lawyers know?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Logic error:  appeal to authority.  Just because they know one subject does imply any knowledge or compentency in another.  Further they probably they probably projected their world view on your situation:  I'm a rat, so he's a rat too.  Otherwise they would have trusted you to come up with a solution to any perceived risk.  Did they even ask for a working solution?They are trained in law not technology.  Did they do a formal risk assessment and maybe hire an independent team to do penetration testing?  Most likely they reached an uninformed conclusion.  If you have backups in place and keep the doors locked, you are going to be fine.  Maybe encrypt things?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maszsam@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:05:28 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I'm shocked!!!!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[What life isn't perfect???6 whole hours?  The humanity!  Real stores are way safer, why when they burn down, er eh how long does that take?  Or when they are broken into, why it only takes... how long?    If you lose data it is because you are sloppy.  This article actually makes the case for not having the system managed on site.  It wasn't a cloud company employee who did the dirty work.  And if it was on a cloud, it would probably have had a back up and better protection in the first place.  I was trying to run the clould verses on site senerio out a few years.  Not getting a clear picture about it, but one thing for sure:  A person who knows what they are doing can always do a better job with their own assets than rented help.  Maybe the best of both worlds is tech people heavely interfacing on an ongoing basis with the service provider.  Sort of a hands on via wire if you will.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[maszsam@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:41:18 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Actually I disagree]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[A one-man shop can be quite effective without spending tons of money.  It really boils down to the capability of the person.   You can setup a basic firewall and packet monitor for very little money, as well as a mail server.  It depends on whether you want to limit yourself to a strictly Windows approach, or if you are willing to implement a Linux based environment.  Thinking that most of these people are taking the &quot;glass-half empty&quot; approach is over-simplifying the issue.  I work in a cloud environment, and I am aware that there are many more dangers to a companies data in the cloud than there are at a local site.  Most of the comments here have been very open, and realistic.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan.G.Shilling@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:11:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The problem is that those who write these blogs are all taking the]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[snake oil salesman approach of ONLY giving the good points and none of the bad points, so we take time to remind people that all is not roses while we tell them of the things the articles have either missed out or glossed over. So we mention the glass is half empty so we can counter these people claiming it's an overflowing cornucopia with some realism.As to what you say, it matters NOT a thing about how much server up time the provider has if the Internet connection does NOT have a 100% up time, and that's just not possible. There are way too many things that can go wrong between the office and the server farm, and neither side is responsible for the problem, but it still means the business comes to a screeching halt.Another point to keep in mind is that the majority of the problems people have with computer security comes from being connected to the Internet, so that comes down to how much connectivity is NEEDED in the business environment. I know of a small business that has one PC connected to the Internet, a mail server connected to the Internet, and the only ports open in their gateway are for the mail server, every other port is locked down and the back end router refuses ALL connections from the gateway side. They work on a lot of highly confidential stuff and the staff do NOT need Internet access to do their work, so it's just not there.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:36:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Glass is also half full]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I am amazed to see all of the glass-half-emply types here. What about the other half of the glass?In terms of small business (50 employees or less), I ask...What about 5 9's+ of uptime that we would never be able to acheive with the funds we have to spend on our little local setups? Who can afford the multiple redundant pipes coming in to their office that one gets with a cloud provider?What about the enterprise-class security that we do get without spending hours upon hours managing it ourselves?Even if the 25-person company could afford to hire a tech full time to manage all of this, how much could they really do? How much risk could they mitigate? Sure our data could get compromised at some cloud provider. However, I would argue that the risk is even greater when you are running your own SBS server in some office in Podunk. There is no way a 25-person Builder/Remodeler could even come close to what they need technology-wise as compared to what one gets from the various cloud providersYes, there's risk. If someone promises you that there isn't, you should run like your hair is on fire. And if you're a big enough company, you can surely take on and mitigate some of those risks yourself. However, for those in small business, I will take the other half of the glass - the full half. After all, for me it is much closer to full than it is to empty.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Techcited!]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:47:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The cloud as a metaphor]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Since the days of swapping out CDC multi-disk platters on a VAX 11/780 for redundant incremental backups, I have been acutely aware of data control.Whoever thought that evoking something as opaque, ephemeral, and amorphous as the cloud to entrust the most important commodity of the digital age is sadly misguided. This article presents the dangers in a very general manner. Anyone who has ever lost their data can only multiply the damage when the impact is extended to the worldwide infrastructure. Forget Irans nuclear program, because a corps of hackers at the Ministry of State Security in Beijing constitute the biggest threat to the Western world.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[waterfrontguy]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:09:33 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Cloud Based Service Discomfort]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I am the IT person in a medium size law firm. For the most part, I make all tech decisions and, as long as everything is working, am left alone. We have been deluged by the Emails and magazine articles saying the the &quot;The Future is in the Cloud&quot; touting the reduction in cost. Thinking I would be biased, they did independent research. Once they weighed the risks to the benefits, they decided that the cloud wasn't worth the risk.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Thumper1]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:02:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Cloud makes a strong assumption...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The cloud paradigm makes a strong assumption:  Continuous access to the cloud services.   This means that in addition to having security requirements for the cloud service itself, there are even more requirements on the security and reliability of the communication network.   And here we have a serious issue.In Carr's book, the big switch, he presented the analogy with the commodities of electrical power and the cloud.   Cloud power will become equivalent to having access to electrical power through the power plug.   It is an interesting analogy.  Let's push it a little bit further.  In the case of critical infrastructure,  there is always a local UPS that compensates a potential electrical power outage.   In the case of a 100% cloud based solution, at least in our current architectures, we do not have the equivalent part of this local UPS.   Thus create your own equivalent of UPS, for instance in the case of critical data, you need to have them available locally, with secure sync in the cloud.  Critical computations should be executable locally...The issue of relying on a pervasive Internet connection is not limited to the cloud, it spreads all over our applications.  More and more, they need external resources or info to work properly.  Thus, the reliability and security of the communication infrastructure is key.   And it relies on private companies...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Wunderbarb]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:37:48 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Intenet goes down, that's a fact]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[In my country, and the near regions of Central America, use of the cloud it's still not affordable, because the Internet service goes down sometimes, whatever the ISP might be, and that's a fact.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[guillegr123]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:11:43 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[So all is ok because of that]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Guess you have it all figured out.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[reisen55@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:41:52 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Oh really?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I spent eight months of hell at a NY City Hospital chain that oursourced support to  India and a web-based program crashed, records were bad and nobody ever heard of the word REDUNDANCY.  Oh, like a duplicate copy should be retained somewhere?  Think Man?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[reisen55@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:41:19 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Carbonite]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I have no association with them at all, nore Mozy and all the rest.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[reisen55@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 21:39:55 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[I block all the ads, so I don't see that stuff - nt]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[nt]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:43:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Irony]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Perfect Irony. As I'm reading in this thread about all the dangers of the Cloud, I looked up to the top of the page and noticed it was being sponsored by Carbonite Online Backup. &quot;Better for Your Business&quot;- Why have all that pesky security in your own facility when you can send your data off to be hijacked by pirates?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[eScoop]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:55:25 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[correct, that's because people are trying to make the Internet do]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[something that was NOT part of the original design criteria. The system does what it was designed and meant to do in a perfect manner. When we want it to do something beyond that we need to set up extras, especially at the perimeter of our home defence area.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Deadly Ernest]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:34:06 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The common sense factor!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Robert is right on target! Our view of security is seriously flawed. Our communications protocols have been proven, more than once to be inadequate and security measures have been proven to be  a fable at best on the Internet. Banks have been hacked, insurance companies have been hacked, Apple has been hacked and systems worldwide have been compromised. When will we wake up and realize that the Internet is merely a work in progress. The cloud has been oversold and its legend far exceeds its reality. Putting confidential information or sensitive information on an unknown server in an unknown location to be handled like a commodity by unknown people does not seem to make a lot of sense. Further, putting your data where your only possibility of getting to it relies on one method of communication, the Internet, appears exceptionally problematic when that data is mission-critical. The &quot;Internet&quot; does not have to go down to stop you from getting to your data, your power company might go down or the power company near the cloud servers may go down or the telephone pole next to your building might be hit by a truck and go down. (Yes I know that there are UPSs. But I also know UPSs fail and have limitations!) These are just the natural possibilities. When you add to these possibilities malicious motivated individuals who are seeking to cause mayhem or to steal data or to get revenge, you begin to get a better picture of the dangers of the cloud. It still seems to me that the best model is to control my own data, and use the cloud as a place to store highly encrypted backups. At least until we can get the bugs out of our security.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jlwachtel@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:29:58 -0700</pubDate>
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