they have only had qualified disasters with it. One of them turned the PC back to the Staples where they bought it, and the tech staff couldn't figure out what was wrong with the thing(DELL).

I actually went through hell getting my HP Elite series desktop to work with Vista for two years, and then SP2 cameout, and everything stablized. Vista is closer to XP in configuration and GUI than Win7, so I really appreciate that. I still have trouble finding things in Win7 but, that is because my clients PC are usually toast, and I don't even get a chance to see their desktop - It is usually just a case of disaster recovery over the phone.

So I don't necessarily disagree with you pickleman, but I had to make this machine work, as I couldn't afford to buy another, and actually there were few cable ready systems like it in 2008, so I really didn't have a choice in machines anyway - for the capability that I got.