Most opinions that I have seen of actual users, seem to like the Start button and the menu concepts of Windows XP, VIsta, 7. Your comments seem to imply that your opinion of Windows 8 (which sounds like you are trying to sell something to get benefit for you) is better than all those users. No need to push one way or the other, the market will decide. It seems that it would have been wise for Microsoft to allow the old style menu system, at least as a transition to the new style. Time will tell.