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How to tell someone they are a Sheeple and should remove themselves from the intelligent, free-thinking part of society.
But...
Thos of us "business techies" that are forced to react to the "free thinking world" are finding some OS diferences difficult to circumvent.
For instance: no double-click, and/or right-click, as my business applications expect.
Specifically we run an ERP system that is UNIX-based and multi-national that has many touchpoints that require (yes REQUIRE) a double-click to execute/interface with critical functions.
Simply does not work on iOS in particular, unless you want to ZOOM, COPY, or SAVE an IMAGE...
Thos of us "business techies" that are forced to react to the "free thinking world" are finding some OS diferences difficult to circumvent.
For instance: no double-click, and/or right-click, as my business applications expect.
Specifically we run an ERP system that is UNIX-based and multi-national that has many touchpoints that require (yes REQUIRE) a double-click to execute/interface with critical functions.
Simply does not work on iOS in particular, unless you want to ZOOM, COPY, or SAVE an IMAGE...
Your response reminds me of some IT types who refuse to work with anything but what they have been alreadyworking with. Times change, and in a world where Microsoft makes people change interfaces every few years, you won't get much sympathy from people who are having to mess with Windows 8 after having to mess with Office ribbon..
Perhaps people can be brought in that won't find BYOD so impossible to work with.
Perhaps people can be brought in that won't find BYOD so impossible to work with.
Which is kind of the critical ingredient in lemonade...
Like the subject "Fascinating" below I'm caught more-or-less speechless... I have been using Apple products since the 80's. Been using UNIX systems in general since the 90's (not counting Apple) been using mainframes and PC's and Windows from DOS to W8 oh, and Windows servers too. Knoppix and Ubunto and on and on... Not a biggot to any technology. I've been on 2 Apple-oriented discussion threads in the last 2 months and both times (including now) spent the majority of my time reading completely childish, narcissistic, self-righteous, babble. Most didn't even read the post. I mention iOS... How many got that? Never mind answering, those that did my condolences. Those that didn't save it for the next person that is actually trying to support and use Apple devices in the real world. I've seen a lot of technical bigotry in the 30-x years since I moved data around the planet for the military, and I can say without hesitation it is never productive, never factual, and never lasts. In the end something else will come dow the pike. Maybe something of Bill's, or something of Larry's, but never again will it be something new from Steve... So enjoy your self-proclaimed righteous indignation. I'll look elsewhere for an answer.
That's true BYOD is upon us and so far, my company has not and probably wont adapt it. Reason, sensitive data concerns. However there have been a few who expressed interest in this so we shall see.
Apple OS, UNIX, Windows, DOS, Ubuntu, It's the same to me. Maybe it's because I was forced to use/learn them all for support. A good support person should at least know a little more than the basics of each OS. If he/she did, he/she wouldn't be one sided and not complain. They would know which OS works best for the task required and go from that point.
Going from Win to Mac is a night and day change in which I only would recommend depending on the reason one is choosing to switch. A move like that isn't for everyone.
Apple OS, UNIX, Windows, DOS, Ubuntu, It's the same to me. Maybe it's because I was forced to use/learn them all for support. A good support person should at least know a little more than the basics of each OS. If he/she did, he/she wouldn't be one sided and not complain. They would know which OS works best for the task required and go from that point.
Going from Win to Mac is a night and day change in which I only would recommend depending on the reason one is choosing to switch. A move like that isn't for everyone.
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give you lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
I like to slice the lemons open and then squirt the juice back into life's eyes.
I usually only encounter this type of negative stereotyping in anti-Windows comments from Linux users. It's enlightening to learn that the Apple crowd has similar thinkers.
I wonder why Synergy (synergy-foss.org) isn't on this list... For me, it has been invaluable in bridging the gap between Windows and Mac. I've used it for as long as I can remember.
Nick,
One of my guys experimented with synergy awhile back unrelated to MAC/Apple in our enterprise. It occurred to me that what it does is like a wedge between the hardware and the OS... Without getting into a lot of detail have you folks been doing anything on the iOS platform?
One of my guys experimented with synergy awhile back unrelated to MAC/Apple in our enterprise. It occurred to me that what it does is like a wedge between the hardware and the OS... Without getting into a lot of detail have you folks been doing anything on the iOS platform?
Maybe not now, since XP and Windows-7 are viable Microsoft OSs. But, if Microsoft continues with it trajectory of abandoning commercially minded business with its touch-centric Windows-8, moving to a Mac starts to make more sense. Apple, I'm sure, will respond by making such transitions much easier. After all, there is a lot of money to be made in the business marketplace.
I've never understood that line of thinking... "I don't like the new interface on Windows 8. I know, I'll change to a totally different operating system that not only has a different interface, it also has different file types, different ways of interacting with the system, different programs etc".
How on earth does that make any sense?
How on earth does that make any sense?
It's just people "keeping up with the Jones." Other than that, correct jumping from one to the other just because does make no sense. All I can advise is if you are in the IT field and would have to be one to support it, I'd recommend you get acquainted with it.
Personally I don't understand this fear of Windows 8, I've come to love it and I have been supporting Mac's for quite a while and always find myself hating them more because of it
I really can't see Windows 8 pushing people to mac, it will probably do the opposite as it looks cooler than 7 and we all know most people only like mac's because they are cool
I really can't see Windows 8 pushing people to mac, it will probably do the opposite as it looks cooler than 7 and we all know most people only like mac's because they are cool
No one is shying away from the computer section at Best Buy. All the models are loaded with Windows 8 and the touch screens are super-oily from constant use.
vs. several hours working while sitting down. I love the stand-up touch-enabled tourism information kiosks at state welcome centers. I wouldn't want to work that way all day.
Win7 is the best made OS from MS so far... 2nd is WinXP... 3rd is none...
The future for Win8 is limited, because MS haven??t made a OS like this kind of GUI before AND MS haven??t made it from scrats... meaning that they merge the new GUI with the old GUI faults equal to new GUI faults, including those faults in the driver files... I wait to see what the future brings after Win8...
The future for Win8 is limited, because MS haven??t made a OS like this kind of GUI before AND MS haven??t made it from scrats... meaning that they merge the new GUI with the old GUI faults equal to new GUI faults, including those faults in the driver files... I wait to see what the future brings after Win8...
I would much rather shepherd a business onto Linux than Mac. It would make far more business sense considering the much lower cost hardware, the wider array of replacement apps and the flexibility. And if some of the "key" business apps (AutoCAD, Photoshop, etc...) found their way over to the Linux side of the fence it would be a no-brainer.
Apple makes pretty toys but I wouldn't want to try and run a business on Mac.
Apple makes pretty toys but I wouldn't want to try and run a business on Mac.
what it says. The end-user, provided a company allows BYOD as work devices" is wanting to switch, not the business/company. Most end-users do basic stuff on system (email, web search, reports, etc.). Most to said thing can be done within a web browser. Resources like attached network storage & shared drives is a simple task to setup. Now when it comes to special program to do specific task, if the program wasn't intended for Mac, then that could pose a problem. There are simple VM solutions for that.
TsarNikky do u really believe MS is abandoning commercially minded business because they are gearing up their product line to support touch 90% now vs having to have a special version OS to support it? I think its a smart move on MS part for their personal consumer and business end-user side. Although Win8 can be setup as a back-end system, I really don't thing a business will have a setup like that with the exception of mom & pop type establishments. Have you had hands on experience with Win8 or Server 2012 prior to making your comment? If not, Windows still has available an evaluation iso floating around on their site still. Download them both. Seeing as both are going "cloud" themed, they play kinda nice with each other. Of course there have been hick-ups along the way but Win8 does well with server 2008 and Unix.
TsarNikky do u really believe MS is abandoning commercially minded business because they are gearing up their product line to support touch 90% now vs having to have a special version OS to support it? I think its a smart move on MS part for their personal consumer and business end-user side. Although Win8 can be setup as a back-end system, I really don't thing a business will have a setup like that with the exception of mom & pop type establishments. Have you had hands on experience with Win8 or Server 2012 prior to making your comment? If not, Windows still has available an evaluation iso floating around on their site still. Download them both. Seeing as both are going "cloud" themed, they play kinda nice with each other. Of course there have been hick-ups along the way but Win8 does well with server 2008 and Unix.
No. Business responds to costs. Swapping all their hardware to convert to the Mac OS for most enterprises would be disastrous. Then there's the learning curve for employees to familiarize themselves with the different names and terms used by Mac. Porting or virtualizing proprietary apps to Mac may be cost-prohibited.
If a business decides to do this I want to know about it. I'll be the guy by their dumpsters loading up the pick-up truck with computers and rackservers!
If a business decides to do this I want to know about it. I'll be the guy by their dumpsters loading up the pick-up truck with computers and rackservers!
This sure is a major change for the people that have to support the new devices. It's fine if you know in advance that you need to support Macs, and you spend time upfront planning and putting systems in place to manage them. If you try to add Macs to an existing Windows environment though, don't expect it to be a smooth integration.
The equivalent in the building industry would be to have an architect design a skyrise, have a building company spend two years constructing it, and then once it's up deciding that it actually needs to be four stories higher now.
The equivalent in the building industry would be to have an architect design a skyrise, have a building company spend two years constructing it, and then once it's up deciding that it actually needs to be four stories higher now.
subjective commentary (e.g. radio buttons are more intuitive) he does assume said business has chosen to go heterogeneous and his 10-list is meant to help ease the pain.
Thus you would have to ask the end business owner, not Erik. Obviously there is a market as he makes money off Apple consulting.
Thus you would have to ask the end business owner, not Erik. Obviously there is a market as he makes money off Apple consulting.
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