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All of the energy used to make these things and then launch them into Low Earth Orbit is probably contributing to Global Warming.
However even if it is it the amount would be minute compared to all of the commercial aircraft in use today and the returns in knowledge would greatly offset any contribution. If anything it will most likely help to monitor the Global Warming which was responsible for Mitt not being elected recently.
Kind of Poetic Justice if you ask me a person claiming that Global Warming doesn't exist looses because Global Warming dissuades people from voting for him.
Col
However even if it is it the amount would be minute compared to all of the commercial aircraft in use today and the returns in knowledge would greatly offset any contribution. If anything it will most likely help to monitor the Global Warming which was responsible for Mitt not being elected recently.
Kind of Poetic Justice if you ask me a person claiming that Global Warming doesn't exist looses because Global Warming dissuades people from voting for him.
Col
Please keep this quiet. It'll just give the Government another excuse to tax us.
Data's great, but only if you do something with it! What's the point in just tracking unless they're going to collect the stuff or move things out of the way.
Reading some of the comments here reminds we why cable "reality" TV is such a success.
"Contributing to global warming" - Really?
"excuse to tax us", "What's the point in just tracking unless they're going to collect the stuff or move things out of the way. " - Well, just for instance, if you were going to orbit a zillion dollar comm satellite, you might want to place it out of the way.
"Contributing to global warming" - Really?
"excuse to tax us", "What's the point in just tracking unless they're going to collect the stuff or move things out of the way. " - Well, just for instance, if you were going to orbit a zillion dollar comm satellite, you might want to place it out of the way.
Or, lots of them, that when full, fire small rockets to propel themselves into the atmosphere and burn up?
But it is not.
1) Many of the objects are very, very small: lost bolts from repairs.
2) The objects are traveling at orbital speed, quite enough to either tear or disarray any net we could send up, if the orbits are not nearly-exactly matched. The usual outcome of a collision, after all, is a hole in something you didn't want holes in.
1) Many of the objects are very, very small: lost bolts from repairs.
2) The objects are traveling at orbital speed, quite enough to either tear or disarray any net we could send up, if the orbits are not nearly-exactly matched. The usual outcome of a collision, after all, is a hole in something you didn't want holes in.
We still haven't learned to pick up after ourselves, have we ? Must be gettin' close to time to learn.
hold load of crap, just grab and pack it in, I wonder how long it would take them to clean it all up. After all, all the man made stuff is from people shooting stuff up, so they should clean it up. Heck, maybe an extended mission where they just grab the junk, pack it together, and put it on a planned descent into a safe spot on earth, let it pile up in the middle of White Sands Range or the like. That would make a big difference to the near space environment.
that will eventually drop it into an isolated spot that isn't an ocean. Then go in and pick up afterward.
And if we're lucky, the word on the location will get out and all kinds of wackos will assemble within the designated target zone, thnking they can dodge the big pieces!
And if we're lucky, the word on the location will get out and all kinds of wackos will assemble within the designated target zone, thnking they can dodge the big pieces!
...you mean to launch it into a "deteriorating orbit" in the first place, I can tell you that the orbit would decay in days, rather than weeks, making the whole exercise useless. The only "deteriorating orbit" possible is a Low Earth Orbit that periodically scrapes traces of the atmosphere, or experiences tidal deformations. All other orbital solutions are "stable."
Considering we're discussing the stuff that's already up there...
If they did that it would pay for the mission and have some change, We can not have free trips into space now can we?
Col
Col
You are digging yourself a hole you can't get out of. For one thing, though there ARE scads of stuff up there, it's NOT in one zone where you can just "grab it and pack it in," nor is it all just sitting there waiting for you. You would have to boost for half an hour to match orbits, track down the lost bolt, maneuver for another half hour, grab it somehow, and repeat the process ad-infinitum to "get a full cargo."
each other to maintain the orbit. Thus all they need to do is come up on them from behind with a scoop or two travelling just a little above the orbit speed and catch the items as they slowly pass them. Dump into cargo hold, hang out scoop again. Clear that lane and move to the next lane. Very much like dredging a harbour or river channel.
Ever seen the film of a car driving up a ramp into the back of a moving truck, same basic principle. Just be a little faster than what you want to catch.
Ever seen the film of a car driving up a ramp into the back of a moving truck, same basic principle. Just be a little faster than what you want to catch.
Picture some crafty individual hiding half a million pieces of junk in places all over the world. Lots of them are as small as bolts. Now picture yourself driving around on the Earth trying to find them all. Now double [the math guys are going to jump on this, it's not double] the area that you have to cover and that's the cleanup effort in space.
Then the rest of the area is empty except for known objects, thus it all shows up on radar and most will also show on metal detectors. So it's like having a bunch of things in day glow orange laid out in a huge open field of mown grass. Not as hard as you think.
Hawaii is one of the tools NASA uses to image satellites and measure the spectra of orbital debris.
NASA is using Hawaii to image satellites? Now that's a sophisticated state! <throws a shaka>
Or did you mean NASA is using the AEOS to image satellites?
NASA is using Hawaii to image satellites? Now that's a sophisticated state! <throws a shaka>
Or did you mean NASA is using the AEOS to image satellites?
Sounds so much better.
However I can not help but wonder how the people of Hawaii actually do the imaging.
Col
However I can not help but wonder how the people of Hawaii actually do the imaging.
Col
You might want to use Google or Wikiedia to learn more before posting. As a starter, look at info about the telescope sites on top of several of the volcano craters...10,500 feet ASL and some that are higher. They get really good views from up there.
Before the world can be attacked by space zombies they would have to get through our first line of defence - "Space debris :)" - when this happens our western earthlings can sit back and say "this was our calculated effort in protecting the earth " while we all watch the alien space crafts as they plummet helplessly into the earth due to damage from Space junk.
Can't have this as a movie plot though it would all be over within 5min.
Can't have this as a movie plot though it would all be over within 5min.
but if we really want to clean it up, I suggest "Operation Vacu-Suck" from Spaceballs.
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