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Thanks for the reply, Ryan, but I'd like a bit more explanation on
1. The no-js - you explained how it works by using Modernizr - but I'm interested in knowing what you expect the web designer to have it do on the website in places where the user has deliberately set their system to stop JavaScript from running for some reason often security or ad blocking.

I suppose part of what I want to know is what is a good use for using JavaScript on a web page if you aren't using it to gather data or operate a shopping cart sort of thing. I see JavaScript code on pages being used to just display static information for reading, and can't understand why they used JS instead of just plain HTML.

2. googleapis.com is one, as is google-analytics.com, and I wonder what browsehappy.com is.

A common security setting being pushed today is to block third party cookies and third party code calls as this the most common way to push malware onto a system in the background. So why not just copy the code onto your own server and also save time and download in having the script called, if it's really needed.

Also the third party calls require more time in communication and downloads between my system and other sites; this may not be a big issue in some countries, but down here we pay for every byte of data sent and received, so anything that can be cut saves us money.

In general, the main reason for using Google Analytics is to identify where I'm coming from to fine tune what ads to push at me and cost me more money to download the crap to my computer. Even then it's often a waste of time as what they identify is where the ISP I use hits the backbone and not where I really am. Some times I use another computer on the Internet while I check things on it and I get to see the ads being pushed at me, they are NEVER any closer to where I am than 1,000 kilometres as I'm NOT in a major city and my ISP enters the backbones in any one of three major cities that are well away from here - usually they go via Sydney, if that's an issue it will then go via Melbourne, and Perth is the third most likely in USA terms think New York, Tampa, Los Angeles. If I want any website owner to know where I am I'll tell them, and if they have a valid reason to know, have them ask me in an obvious way. BTW I block GA on every system I use and advise all my clients to do they same, and they usually do. I have found that some websites now have issues communicating if they do NOT get a valid response from their GA script, and that just means it's one more website on the 'never use' list I provide to friends, family, and clients.

3. I'm glad they have a tarball available, but when I went to the Boilerplate page the only download I could find was the zip file, found it real quick as it was obvious. I will admit I didn't go digging too deep into the site, but then I would have expected them to work like most and have all the downloads listed on the one page.

Go to http://html5boilerplate .com/ and right there is a big orange button that says 'Download' (two actually) click on that and it wants to feed you a zip file even when I access it using a Linux system. Nothing on the front page tells you where to find the tarball. And nothing obvious on the page you got to if you click on the 'Custom Build' button either. It took me a while to find out how to find your latest link with the tarball listed, but it's NOT told to anyone. You have to go to the main page, choose the 'Source Code' link at the top, go down that to where it says 'downloads' on about the twentieth line and in the same small script as everything else, and then about that far down on the next page shown is a line where you can download as a tarball. Hell, it's almost like they were forced to include a tarball version but were ashamed to have that known and trying to hide it. The option of it is NOT mentioned anywhere in any text i saw prior to there.

However, that's a marketing approach issue for the makers.
Posted by Deadly Ernest
21st Nov