to create shortcuts on your desktop, or launch programs
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
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Right click the taskbar.
Choose Toolbars
Choose New Toolbar
Navigate to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Choose Select Folder
Now you will see "Start Menu >>" on your taskbar.
Click on the ">>" hover on the Programs folder and all of your programs appear.
Administrative Tools, Microsoft Office, Windows Accessories etc. - They're all there. - right from the good ol' taskbar.
Choose Toolbars
Choose New Toolbar
Navigate to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Choose Select Folder
Now you will see "Start Menu >>" on your taskbar.
Click on the ">>" hover on the Programs folder and all of your programs appear.
Administrative Tools, Microsoft Office, Windows Accessories etc. - They're all there. - right from the good ol' taskbar.
The right side of the start menu is missing, but the [Windows}-X shortcut gives you everything missing and more. If you really hate the Win8 start screen, [Windows] will take you to the Win7-style desktop.
The right side of the start menu is missing but you can recreate it in the taskbar.
It's a bit convoluted because it requires you to create a shortcut to a folder, renaming the shortcut to another type of file, adding it to the taskbar and then changing the folder icon to the old start button.
It's quite a bit of work but it can be done.
In my opinion, it is not worth the effort.
It's quite a bit of work but it can be done.
In my opinion, it is not worth the effort.
But it's just as easy to say
You don't really need Windows 8
Business is unlikely to adopt it in any serious form on the Desktop the only place it will find it's way into Business is through the BYOD where personal Tablets and Phones with 8 installed start to get into the inside of the business. Some Business may even Bar their Introduction because that OS is not compatible with their existing systems.
So in Business at least I can not see any Dramatic Uptake and 8 will remain on the Low Resource Personal Devices where the End Users may actually even like it. 8 As it currently stands is great on Mobile Devices where people have already got used to the Apple Style UI that 8 is but on the desktop it has a fight on it's hands.
Here at least the Wholesalers are offering big Discounts on systems loaded with 8 anything while the 7 Systems sell at the Premium prices.
Col
You don't really need Windows 8
Business is unlikely to adopt it in any serious form on the Desktop the only place it will find it's way into Business is through the BYOD where personal Tablets and Phones with 8 installed start to get into the inside of the business. Some Business may even Bar their Introduction because that OS is not compatible with their existing systems.
So in Business at least I can not see any Dramatic Uptake and 8 will remain on the Low Resource Personal Devices where the End Users may actually even like it. 8 As it currently stands is great on Mobile Devices where people have already got used to the Apple Style UI that 8 is but on the desktop it has a fight on it's hands.
Here at least the Wholesalers are offering big Discounts on systems loaded with 8 anything while the 7 Systems sell at the Premium prices.
Col
To give you a little more insight on the Win8 situation, I'll talk a little about the U.S. Air Force. Typically the USAF upgrades to the latest version of Windows immediately. Heck, they were still doing some XP->Vista upgrades when they started the Win7 upgrades; that's how fast they move. They don't wait for SP1 or anything like that. The USAF is heavily in the MS camp for the desktop as is most of the U.S. Govt. (It is the core of what they call their Standard Desktop Configuration [SDC]).
Not so with Win8. There are no plans to upgrade anytime soon. First, some of their core middle ware doesn't work with Win8. Then there is the whole training issue. Training hundreds of thousands of troops is no menial task even for the USAF. When you jump the tracks as far as MS has with Win8, they're finding that even their hardcore clients are not real happy and are considering skipping this one.
Not so with Win8. There are no plans to upgrade anytime soon. First, some of their core middle ware doesn't work with Win8. Then there is the whole training issue. Training hundreds of thousands of troops is no menial task even for the USAF. When you jump the tracks as far as MS has with Win8, they're finding that even their hardcore clients are not real happy and are considering skipping this one.
That's a little scary. I hope you guys pay attention to the Early Bug Swarm issue, wherein bugs show up shortly after a release.
No plans to upgrade anytime soon? Considering skipping this one? Seems to me that is what many people did with Vista (which we ran quite successfully and productively for 2.5 years before moving to Win7). What did they get with Windows 7 - mostly Vista (tweaked a bit...but we untweak some things... such as strict UAC setting). If they don't get started now, when Win 9 comes out they'll be hurting...or have to move to Linux or Apple and those training and core systems issues. Just sayin....
Is you most certainly do not need a mouse with your Surface RT which will only have 4 or so years of Support and your Win Phone 8.
8 is ideal for those platforms but I see it as next to useless on the Desktop. Or as my Father would say Windows 8 is as useful as Teats on a Bull.
I just don't see 8 being widely adopted on the Desktop as it currently stands but it's an ideal user interface for Mobile Devices.
Col
8 is ideal for those platforms but I see it as next to useless on the Desktop. Or as my Father would say Windows 8 is as useful as Teats on a Bull.
I just don't see 8 being widely adopted on the Desktop as it currently stands but it's an ideal user interface for Mobile Devices.
Col
As my father would say, "Where's the cord on my home phone?!"
And *never* use a USB mouse on my ASUS TF300. It is a lousy method of interfacing with the desktop on that device.
On Windows 8 on a non-touch device though, I do use a mouse. The form of the device is going to determine the best interface and increasingly, that will *not* be a mouse.
On Windows 8 on a non-touch device though, I do use a mouse. The form of the device is going to determine the best interface and increasingly, that will *not* be a mouse.
Whoever voted me up out of the basement, thanks. I hate driveby downvotes.
If there is something you disagree with, at least have the courtesy to post your view if you're going to neg another comment.
If there is something you disagree with, at least have the courtesy to post your view if you're going to neg another comment.
the up vote that is... I agree the drive-by down vote is the work of a scoundrel. I couldn't see anything objectionable in your post.
BTW I do that routinely, up vote posts that aren't given the courtesy of a reply.
BTW I do that routinely, up vote posts that aren't given the courtesy of a reply.
There seem to be at least two roving bandsof down-voters in recent months. One patrols the threads looking for anything good being said about Win 8 and marks them down, the other looks for anyone saying anything bad about Win 8.
Personal experience says that the "defenders of Win8" is the larger of the two groups. But neither group is in the habit of actually responding to posts they disagree with and engaging in debate.
Personal experience says that the "defenders of Win8" is the larger of the two groups. But neither group is in the habit of actually responding to posts they disagree with and engaging in debate.
Why care about the opinions of people who can't be bothered to express them?
non-positive posts posts on Win 8. have another up to make you feel better.
I get down voted when I show someone how to do something in Windows 8. What is up with that?
that downvote anything favorable about W8. I still say downvoting should require a comment. If you don't comment, your vote isn't recorded. Even a simple 'No text' would at least identify who disagrees with you.
as a comment and I'd also allow it when the message no longer has the 'Reply' button showing. I like to down vote spammers when I flag their messages - this means anyone using the default show setting gets the spam hidden due to the negative vote.
You really have no idea do you
Have you been to the shops lately? Every Windows 7 device is on sale, get out of the house more
Have you been to the shops lately? Every Windows 7 device is on sale, get out of the house more
It is in the best interest of big box retailers to carry the latest licences, for MANY reasons. SALES also draw customers, those who have been holding off on 7 will now invest. The software licences seem about the same, the hardware they come preinstalled on gets pretty cheap though.
A shop that doesn't carry mainly new products and software does not look like they are on top of technology. Stock movement is also critical, whereas in a boutique style shop, it is less important as the solution provided.
As for Premium price, the higher end machines are still the higher end/premium machines, around here they still mainly boast Win7, but you'd never see anything more than halfway decent in a big box retailer, FutureShop/Best Buy etc..
A shop that doesn't carry mainly new products and software does not look like they are on top of technology. Stock movement is also critical, whereas in a boutique style shop, it is less important as the solution provided.
As for Premium price, the higher end machines are still the higher end/premium machines, around here they still mainly boast Win7, but you'd never see anything more than halfway decent in a big box retailer, FutureShop/Best Buy etc..
You really can not understand what you read can you?
Here at least the Wholesalers are offering big Discounts on systems loaded with 8 anything while the 7 Systems sell at the Premium prices.
The operative word here is Wholesalers not Shops there is a very big difference between the two and if you do not understand that there is no hope for you.
OH and the shops here are all stocked with Win 8 Home which is not of any use to any of my clients who would need Professional or Enterprise at the very least so they are not the ones shopping in the Shops they get me to supply what they need as apposed to what is available in the shops today. As most are on Enterprise and that's not available in 8 on anything but Volume License perhaps you could suggest a shop where I could buy a copy?
Col
Here at least the Wholesalers are offering big Discounts on systems loaded with 8 anything while the 7 Systems sell at the Premium prices.
The operative word here is Wholesalers not Shops there is a very big difference between the two and if you do not understand that there is no hope for you.
OH and the shops here are all stocked with Win 8 Home which is not of any use to any of my clients who would need Professional or Enterprise at the very least so they are not the ones shopping in the Shops they get me to supply what they need as apposed to what is available in the shops today. As most are on Enterprise and that's not available in 8 on anything but Volume License perhaps you could suggest a shop where I could buy a copy?
Col
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