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I have to agree with all that you say, but the advantage of iOS I believe that its in the dedicated hardware that they run. Its much easier to adjust a piece of software in a specific device that build software to work on almost any kind of device, screen, etc. Android has to satisfy everyone??? with no background, and this is the problem of W8, they have a background too big to forget and they have to innovate at same time. A much more difficult task to achieve.
The tight hardware ecosystem of Apple gives them a huge advantage in stability, in app design that is more consistent and pleasant to work with. I often say that Apple is a coloring book that forces everyone involved to color within the lines. Consumers who want content consumption seem to really respond to the hassle free experience this brings. But content creation in an environment that has strict lines that can't be avoided can be frustrating. It is a double edged sword.
Not to burst your bubble, but reviews and reports so far really don't support your enthusiasm though at the same time I haven't heard any real criticism of the upgrade, either. Then again, just because a platform is the most popular doesn't necessarily mean it's the best--nor does being the least popular make it the worst. We'll just have to wait and see, though I've made my own projections below.
... you haven't been looking.
Bloggers and "analysts" were universally dismissive of Blackberry's chances for over a year, until some details of the OS came out, and reporting of BB's huge global introduction effort started, and have been pretty universally positive since.
I have both Android and Playbook devices, and like both, but the BB OS is (imho) already smoother and easier to operate.
And don't fret, I don't have a bubble.
Bloggers and "analysts" were universally dismissive of Blackberry's chances for over a year, until some details of the OS came out, and reporting of BB's huge global introduction effort started, and have been pretty universally positive since.
I have both Android and Playbook devices, and like both, but the BB OS is (imho) already smoother and easier to operate.
And don't fret, I don't have a bubble.
And the last discussion I had about Blackberry was when Jason Perlow of ZDNet and I discussed an appropriate term for what direction they were headed in and I suggested that we say that Blackberry is getting "Palmed".
Other than that, I haven't heard much positive buzz on any leading industry outlets, and I tend to follow them.
Other than that, I haven't heard much positive buzz on any leading industry outlets, and I tend to follow them.
Most of them prior to December are predicting the imminent death of the company. Most of them post 2012-11 are positive.
Given the number of "experts" counting RIM out during the year past, I can certainly understand your lack of interest compared to the "big 2 1/2", but most self-proclaimed analysts seem to gloss over the 80 million subscriber base and the $2 billion + cash position.
I suspect that anybody with a bit of intelligence and a little research could probably out-analyse the self-proclaimed analysts and out-expert the self-proclaimed experts.
Given the number of "experts" counting RIM out during the year past, I can certainly understand your lack of interest compared to the "big 2 1/2", but most self-proclaimed analysts seem to gloss over the 80 million subscriber base and the $2 billion + cash position.
I suspect that anybody with a bit of intelligence and a little research could probably out-analyse the self-proclaimed analysts and out-expert the self-proclaimed experts.
It is kind of like National Enquirer analysis. I don't want anyone to remember my prediction about iPad market share. I want EVERYONE to remember my prediction about the inevitability of Android tablet market share during the period when it was floundering.
I threw out one saying Webtop 3.0 could turn Motorola around a couple days before Google/Motorola announced it had been discontinued, but it didn't publish until a couple of days AFTER. That was embarrassing. But - I stand by the position that Webtop 3.0 showed that the concept had promise and I think we'll see a lot of the engineering work its way into Android multi-format devices. It just won't be called Motorola Webtop. Either way, though... you can't win 'em all.
As for Rim... they're in a bad place. Here is hoping they can turn it around.
I threw out one saying Webtop 3.0 could turn Motorola around a couple days before Google/Motorola announced it had been discontinued, but it didn't publish until a couple of days AFTER. That was embarrassing. But - I stand by the position that Webtop 3.0 showed that the concept had promise and I think we'll see a lot of the engineering work its way into Android multi-format devices. It just won't be called Motorola Webtop. Either way, though... you can't win 'em all.
As for Rim... they're in a bad place. Here is hoping they can turn it around.
I'm going to agree that RIM did continue to see sales growth all the way up to roughly June '11--to a maximum reportedly of 78 million according to a Dow Jones article I just read. However, that report also stated that RIM's growth "flatlined" while its market share plummeted--meaning that they were seeing almost no new sales while everybody else (no specific mention of Microsoft) were riding the exploding market.
Now, obviously this means that RIM's Blackberry has managed to retain its established customers. The bad side of this is that RIM hasn't been able to impress any new customers. This also means that it's very likely the Blackberry OS 10 is a serious make-or-break issue for them and that they need to not only encourage upgrades from their established base but also generate new sales from previous non-owners. Worse, because of Blackberry's already abysmal reputation on usability, they're going to be fighting that reputation in their effort to generate those sales. It's not going to be enough that they can say they're "better", they've got to demonstrate it in a spectacular manner that visibly blows away any competition. I hate to say this but there is enough skepticism out there that any claims will be doubted and tested to the point of destruction. Blackberry may manage to retain its current base, but it is doubtful--at least for now--that the release of 10 will create any massive shift in market presence.
Now, obviously this means that RIM's Blackberry has managed to retain its established customers. The bad side of this is that RIM hasn't been able to impress any new customers. This also means that it's very likely the Blackberry OS 10 is a serious make-or-break issue for them and that they need to not only encourage upgrades from their established base but also generate new sales from previous non-owners. Worse, because of Blackberry's already abysmal reputation on usability, they're going to be fighting that reputation in their effort to generate those sales. It's not going to be enough that they can say they're "better", they've got to demonstrate it in a spectacular manner that visibly blows away any competition. I hate to say this but there is enough skepticism out there that any claims will be doubted and tested to the point of destruction. Blackberry may manage to retain its current base, but it is doubtful--at least for now--that the release of 10 will create any massive shift in market presence.
I understood that a HUGE segment of their market is in the Middle East - the UAE states in particular. People in strict theocratic nations seem to LOVE their Blackberries, for some reason. Maybe it has to do with the level of enterprise security? I recall there was a specific reason, I just don't remember what it was.
That was awhile ago, so this may have changed.
That was awhile ago, so this may have changed.
But stranger things are possible. If they bring it, they can get back in the game. Every other time they've tried since the original iPhone, they've come up far too short.
The Stock Market is thinking the same thing. RIM's Share Price has jumped with the expectoration that Blackberry 10 is going to be the answer to all.
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- based on QNX - specifically designed as a low-resource real-time OS, unlike the competition
- huge opening app store
- successful wooing of developers, great API's
- smooth & superior UI
- real multitasking
- new workflow paradigm
- huge effort to maintain/grow user base, esp. business
Of course, it could be designed by God and still fail in the fickle marketplace (in which case the company is toast), but all things being equal, they should make a huge difference in the market.
They are not trying to offer a simple alternative to existing platforms, they are trying to be the next step in portable device evolution.
I hope they are successful. We'll see.
btw - I have no stock, but admit I would like to see a Canadian company succeed, despite the last year of denigration by the financial and IT press, which often kills off companies prematurely.
- huge opening app store
- successful wooing of developers, great API's
- smooth & superior UI
- real multitasking
- new workflow paradigm
- huge effort to maintain/grow user base, esp. business
Of course, it could be designed by God and still fail in the fickle marketplace (in which case the company is toast), but all things being equal, they should make a huge difference in the market.
They are not trying to offer a simple alternative to existing platforms, they are trying to be the next step in portable device evolution.
I hope they are successful. We'll see.
btw - I have no stock, but admit I would like to see a Canadian company succeed, despite the last year of denigration by the financial and IT press, which often kills off companies prematurely.
And it would be nice to be able to not count an additional competitor out yet.
Truth is, Intel and Microsoft are suffering from a lack of positive press, too - so Rim isn't alone in facing the potential fate you claim - they're just arguably in the worst shape of the 3 examples here.
Truth is, Intel and Microsoft are suffering from a lack of positive press, too - so Rim isn't alone in facing the potential fate you claim - they're just arguably in the worst shape of the 3 examples here.
Why start comparing the best mobile OS when another is just coming out? If Apple was set to release a new OS shortly, you can be sure that this topic would have been held back until the release.
Are you suggesting that it was premature to compare iOS, Android and Windows 8 because the Blackberry 10 is about to be released, and saying that we wouldn't have done a compare like this if iOS was just about to release a new version of their platform?
The difference there is that one would be Apple releasing an iOS upgrade, and the other is RIM releasing a Blackberry-OS upgrade.
Isn't quite the same thing. One has significant anticipation and high expectations across a huge segment of the population. The other does not.
The difference there is that one would be Apple releasing an iOS upgrade, and the other is RIM releasing a Blackberry-OS upgrade.
Isn't quite the same thing. One has significant anticipation and high expectations across a huge segment of the population. The other does not.
On someone else to cover it:
http://www.techvibes.com/blog/what-makes-blackberry-distinct-from-ios-and-android-2012-11-22
Here is what I get from the article.
RIM is going in a totally different direction than Android and iOS with Blackberry 10. They're copying Microsoft Windows Phone 8, instead and trying to get away from the "app-centric" approach to mobile devices.
I'm not sure how that can go much better for RIM than it has gone for Microsoft.
http://www.techvibes.com/blog/what-makes-blackberry-distinct-from-ios-and-android-2012-11-22
Here is what I get from the article.
RIM is going in a totally different direction than Android and iOS with Blackberry 10. They're copying Microsoft Windows Phone 8, instead and trying to get away from the "app-centric" approach to mobile devices.
I'm not sure how that can go much better for RIM than it has gone for Microsoft.
Berry 10 is the talk of the town here, I suppose that doesn't matter in the US though. Everyone around here is holding out on new phones until 10 is released now, which is a VERY highly anticipated OS.
As there are still more Berry's in Canada than iPhones (especially for enterprise use where iPhone falls flat on its face), it is a completely fair question.
As there are still more Berry's in Canada than iPhones (especially for enterprise use where iPhone falls flat on its face), it is a completely fair question.
I imagine like Nokia in Finland, RIM may enjoy a higher degree of interest in Canada than it does in most other places.
I have acknowledged a couple of times that there are a few regions in the world where Blackberry remains unusually popular. My focus was on a global average reader, though - not specific geographic regions.
I have acknowledged a couple of times that there are a few regions in the world where Blackberry remains unusually popular. My focus was on a global average reader, though - not specific geographic regions.
As we've already seen, Apple is the favorite subject of rumormongers. Just yesterday we had new rumors declaring not one, not two, but three different iPhone models to be released this year when Apple has clearly set a tradition of a single model (with variants) in any one year. So why would these same rumormongers NOT spread rumors about a new Apple OS?
What type of vehicle is best on vacation? Sports car, SUV or Motorcycle? In the long run, you have to use what works for you. It is important that we have access to information (such as this) to make our decisions. Thanks.
Not perfect - but if we're looking at it this way, SUVs are so remarkably popular because they can do so much. They're decent daily commuters (even if they're not the most efficient), they're good family haulers, they're good for outdoor activities, they're good for towing and for utility jobs, they're good in all kinds of weathers. They can be a pain to drive because they're not the most maneuverable or easy to park, and they're expensive.
Sounds a *lot* like Windows 8 to me. A lot of compromise in a jack-of-all trades, master of none scenario.
Android would be a passenger car, and iOS a fancy exotic marquee with only a few different models that are all sexy, sleek, a kick-in-the-pants to operate, expensive, and very limited.
Sounds a *lot* like Windows 8 to me. A lot of compromise in a jack-of-all trades, master of none scenario.
Android would be a passenger car, and iOS a fancy exotic marquee with only a few different models that are all sexy, sleek, a kick-in-the-pants to operate, expensive, and very limited.
SUV's are becoming a dinosaur these days. CAR manufacturers are introducing Crossovers now, not SUV's, though many people still refer to them as SUV's.
SUV's are generally designed as body on frame vehicles, such as an OLDER Ford Explorer where the SUV body was stuck onto a Ford Ranger Pick up frame. It handles like a truck, not a car and guzzles gas as it weighs more. BUT...it truly stands up to the test of time like a pick up would, such as rumbling down pot hole filled logging roads.
A crossover is generally a unibody style vehicle. Just like modern cars, there is no separate frame, like the newer Ford Explorers. It's a unibody build where panels are joined together to build a rigid vehicle without a conventional frame under it. It will have independent, soft riding suspension, just like a car, focused to be a pavement princess and not for off roading, though they add these stupid dials inside to control differential action as if it was an off-road/4WD vehicle, which they are not.
Crossovers are not as solid as SUV's, they are NOT designed to be rumbled through pol hole filled logging roads. They are built of lightweight car components, not truck components ,usually have low profile tires and wimpy but flashy looking rims.
Crossovers are daily commuters, SUV's are daily commuters too, IF you don't mind driving a light truck for daily commutes. I have a daily commuter SUV and it rides like a truck but handles like a car, which was the aim of the SUV to begin with.
I see IOS as a crossover, it LOOKS like a robust business device but really it's just a toy for consumers who want to look like they have a full featured smart phone. It handles like a crossover too, designed to appeal to consumers, not business users (4X4 aficionados).
Everyone who supports iPone talks about the ease of social networking, smooth scrolling through music files (crappy versions of music files anyway), smooth web surfing, huge app store where you can download 100 versions of solitaire or 50 really low quality CRM apps etc. etc.
Blackberry users, for example, will boast the tactile keyboard, security, multitasking etc. BB owners will focus on the business tools, smaller yet more useful app store and enterprise features, which Apple has never been keen to address with their strictly consumer driven market.
SUV's are generally designed as body on frame vehicles, such as an OLDER Ford Explorer where the SUV body was stuck onto a Ford Ranger Pick up frame. It handles like a truck, not a car and guzzles gas as it weighs more. BUT...it truly stands up to the test of time like a pick up would, such as rumbling down pot hole filled logging roads.
A crossover is generally a unibody style vehicle. Just like modern cars, there is no separate frame, like the newer Ford Explorers. It's a unibody build where panels are joined together to build a rigid vehicle without a conventional frame under it. It will have independent, soft riding suspension, just like a car, focused to be a pavement princess and not for off roading, though they add these stupid dials inside to control differential action as if it was an off-road/4WD vehicle, which they are not.
Crossovers are not as solid as SUV's, they are NOT designed to be rumbled through pol hole filled logging roads. They are built of lightweight car components, not truck components ,usually have low profile tires and wimpy but flashy looking rims.
Crossovers are daily commuters, SUV's are daily commuters too, IF you don't mind driving a light truck for daily commutes. I have a daily commuter SUV and it rides like a truck but handles like a car, which was the aim of the SUV to begin with.
I see IOS as a crossover, it LOOKS like a robust business device but really it's just a toy for consumers who want to look like they have a full featured smart phone. It handles like a crossover too, designed to appeal to consumers, not business users (4X4 aficionados).
Everyone who supports iPone talks about the ease of social networking, smooth scrolling through music files (crappy versions of music files anyway), smooth web surfing, huge app store where you can download 100 versions of solitaire or 50 really low quality CRM apps etc. etc.
Blackberry users, for example, will boast the tactile keyboard, security, multitasking etc. BB owners will focus on the business tools, smaller yet more useful app store and enterprise features, which Apple has never been keen to address with their strictly consumer driven market.
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