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    <title><![CDATA[Discussion on Hands on: Getting real work done with Surface RT ]]></title>
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        <title><![CDATA[What if?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Then you bought the wrong device.  I doubt you are going to find those other browsers in the MS store, assuming someone develops Metro versions of them.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlieSpencer_Palmetto]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 07:33:06 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Why I won't get an RT for quite a while...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It's too expensive.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[jsargent]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 00:34:01 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Internet Exploder...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If I'm reading this article right, the user is essentially stuck with IE - what if, like most, one is to despise IE and wants to replace it with a far more useful browser (Firefox/Chrome/Opera/etc)?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[digilante]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:29:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Exactly]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[For example, Android devices work just dandy with Bluetooth mice. And keyboards. And USB mice and keyboards. Have for years. Some, like my Asus Transformer here, offer decent clip-on keyboards, for those who prefer them. I can plug in a full sized SD card from a camera or camcorder, plug a USB stick or HDD in, and backup my media.. one of my main reasons for dragging a laptop everywhere in the past. I can also develop Android apps on Android.. try that on iOS or Windows RT.That's kind of a fundamental.. Android has always seemed designed to enable a stand-alone device for general purpose computing. IOS devices were originally PC accessories, and while they have slowly evolved, the cord doesn't seem cut. Similarly, a Windows RT device seems only something you'd want as an extension of your Windows desktop. Like iOS, there seem to be artificial blocks set up to prevent these from being full fledged personal computers.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Hazydave]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[2 cents]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I've had surface RT for about 3 weeks for research into the product. Having no expectations as I've not found much work related, ie using it on the job &quot;uses&quot; for tablets. Its a mostly windows world and I have to say between this and my android phone, I'm getting the job done so far. I also like the ease of mapping drives on my home network and working with files and occasional rdp to my other workstations when I'm planted on my couch. A big plus for cold weather and a blanket. My only complaint is it still needs to be restarted occasionally when it gets flakey...not connecting to the store or unable to install an update. I'm hoping future updates will work the bugs out...]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[scoot3r]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 18:53:26 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The only time the word 'success' appears,]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;My experiment in using the Surface RT as my working computer on the trip to Las Vegas for CES is, Ive decided, a qualified success.&quot;Note the use of the word 'qualified'.  'Success' is a relative term; her definition may not match yours or mine.Me, I'd have called it complete failure from the beginning, based on carrying a second device.  Even if I never pulled the Galaxy out, feeling I needed to carry it just in case would have demonstrated my distrust in the RT.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlieSpencer_Palmetto]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:16:42 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Theme of the blog was &quot;I succeeded at using the Surface RT to do my job&quot;]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[She's depicting it as a success ... her Galaxy Note stayed in the luggage, &quot;getting real work done&quot;, &quot;thank goodness MS is taking care of us by providing Office in RT&quot;.  Someone else experiencing the same exact events could, quite properly, focus on the browser not working, Metro apps freezing and being unuseful, etc. etc.  I'm saying the actual experience isn't entirely consistent with the tone.Plus, in various G+ postings with Deb (and Donovan), it's clear that she does want it to succeed.  Nothing wrong with that if you're blogging, as opposed to being a journalist.  But my awareness of that may be coloring how I read it, too.  You don't read the article as trying to convey that the Surface RT was a success in this case, and for her use cases?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[daboochmeister]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:05:33 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Apps :(]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[From what I gather, the app support is non-existent at the moment.  If the Surface RT has the apps you need, then it should be a fantastic tablet, but make sure it has what you need, or there's a release date on the missing apps.I believe with the release of the Surface Pro coming up, the app support should get at least somewhat better fairly soon.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[shr3d5@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:31:48 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Who said it was going to be a 'success story'?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[&quot;And stepping way back - to be honest, your experience doesn't read like a success for the Surface RT (imho)...&quot;Why did you think it would be?]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[CharlieSpencer_Palmetto]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:19:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[But in comparison to an ipad/Android the surface is quite productive]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Whatever works with ipad, people trying to tell us they can get real work done on an ipad is really just a bad joke. I found the ipad nearly useless in comparison to my surface rt, your brainwashed if you think otherwise. I ended up giving my ipad away. It was a birthday present, but the GUI was too boring, it can't browse webpages properly and its really isn't designed for power users. These fundamental problems you talk about, wouldn't be mentioned in regards to the ipad, because its just not capable of these issues even being raised]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Trentski]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:49:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[It has mspaint]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Just not a full blow editor]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Trentski]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:44:12 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Couple of minor points]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Your inexperience outside of the MS ecology (it seems to me) shows a bit, Deb ... Bluetooth mice work fine with iPads.Multiple user profiles are part and parcel of Android 4.1 tablet experience, and devices gain the capability as they move to that release.  I haven't hear of any OEM removing that capability.And stepping way back - to be honest, your experience doesn't read like a success for the Surface RT (imho) ... the number of workarounds to fundamental problems that you had to find was surprising to me. And you essentially conclude that the new Metro whatever UI is not usable, for your use cases - which I don't think MS would interpret as success, given their aspirations on the &quot;we want our own walled garden&quot; front.  Objectively, am I wrong?  That's not a surprising number of issues that you encountered?  And note that all the TIKFAM/Metro/whatever issues may very well be in the Pro as well (though maybe not, maybe the x86 sandbox/libs will execute more cleanly ... TBD).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[daboochmeister]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:10:03 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Generational gap?]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm noticing something interesting with my kids (18 and 20) ... they don't naturally like the desktop. They PREFER to find a phone or tablet type app to accomplish something.  I've heard all the &quot;you can't be productive creating things on an iPad&quot; comments - and I in fact understand, since I'm totally a desktop kind of guy - but I really do wonder if it's not just an &quot;old fogies&quot; thing that the desktop matters.  Even when I hear people say &quot;my kids love it&quot;, there always seems to be a &quot;they're used to a desktop environment&quot; in there ... It will be interesting to see what happens with the generation that grows up using tablets/phones, some of whom will never have even used a desktop analogy, likely.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[daboochmeister]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:04:17 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[photo editor surface]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You don't need an app to edit pictures. Check out this PhotoShop clone. Works perfectly with surface????http://pixlr.com/editor/]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[holbein@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:51:03 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Photo editor RT Surface...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[So the Surface RT doesn't come with MSPaint ? That's kinda disapointing if true.  MSPaint has gained a ton of functionality since Windows 7 and more since Windows 8. I am not a Photoshop guru nor have I ever realy used it, but I like to call MSPaint since Windows 7 PSLite.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan.L.Brenner]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:16:25 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Surface IT Experience]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Just a thanks for the well written article. I learned a lot of good info that can be used on my decision making of what tablet PC to buy.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[chucksjc@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Surface RT]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I've had a Surface RT since it became available in the UK. I've experienced a lot of the same frustrations as Debra, particularly with the mail client which I find slow and limiting, BUT I can forgive that until it gets improved because the combination of the weight and the FANTASTIC battery life and the fact that you have Office on such a device makes it really handy. I also think that its use of Skydrive is great. I've now put all of my documents and slideshows into SkyDrive and have rarely found the necessity to go back to my desktop since I've had the RT. The only time I've had to do that is when I was producing a large commercial proposal in word that was several hundred pages long containing lots of tables and graphics, but that was more to do with screen size and computing horsepower. In short, I think its great.  The Pro will remove the need for desktop pc for the vast majority of users I suspect.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[weeks_simon]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:39:37 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Thoughful article]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I also have the Surface RT and will also move to the Pro version but only with a 4th gen processor. That should make it lighter and increase the battery life. My experience has been very similar except that I use the virtual on screen keyboard rather than the touch. I've found that the more I use it the more comfortable it becomes to use and the more intuitive.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[primartcloud]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:33:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Own a Surface RT 64GB]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[And I've tried and tried and tried but I just don't like the Touch Cover.  I love the device but not the cover so when I go to buy the Surface Pro, I'll grab the Type Cover and have both...leaving the 'touch' cover on the device I plan to use the least which will actually probably turn out to be the Pro.  Besides that, I love it.  I bring along a little D-Link Wifi AP when I go to a client so I always have Wifi or the ability to connect to a wired only network (think configuring routers, switches, etc.) and I have my Lumia 920 with LTE Internet Sharing.  It's really been surprising what I 'can' do with the device compared to what I can't.  One of my co-workers called me asked me &quot;is there mstsc in Windows RT?&quot; and I was like &quot;I'm not sure&quot; but it turns out that yea, there is and there's the &quot;Remote Desktop&quot; app in the Store.  I knew I was buying something less capable than Windows 8 but I didn't realize how little that amount would be. The only thing that's irked me a bit is sites that don't display properly in IE10. I don't mean to start a whole 'Microsoft doesn't use standards!' debate but it does suck that if IE10 doesn't render a site properly for whatever reason, that I have to RDP to another workstation in order to access the site I'm trying to reach.  I run into this on a lot of network devices.  Yes, there's the CLI interfaces but some things are just easier via the GUI's (usually).Despite that (Touch Cover and IE10), it's really a high quality and certainly very capable device.  It convinced me to buy the Pro version as well because well, I like pen input and I'll keep the Surface RT around as my 2ndary (or perhaps back to primary if another browser is released for RT...for the battery life).]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Skruis]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:14:22 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[More people are getting this.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I'm actually fired up about the Surface - but I just picked up an i3 touch screen Windows 8 ultrabook by ASUS for $450. At $599 with the Touch Cover, more with the Type Cover, the Surface is a difficult decision as an accessory device that compliments a traditional PC. I understand the tablet format expands the possibilities of the Surface - but as you point out, you need a SDXC memory card in addition to the tablet and keyboard to really be able to do anything meaningful unless you plan to leverage Skydrive for the majority of your storage. There is no doubt in my mind that for &quot;content production&quot; RT devices give the most desktop-OS like experience of any ARM based tablets currently available. The build quality is incredible, and other than the inability to run native x86 code the OS is faithful to the features and abilities of Win 8 Pro.  While I can see the value, I think the challenge is getting skeptics to discover what makes these devices worth the premium. The convenience of a consistent interface, tight integration across platforms and an innovative and intelligent approach to making a touch interface designed for touch devices is a solid combination. I think we'll see it catch on, but it might take awhile.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[dcolbert@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:54:27 -0800</pubDate>
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