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        <title><![CDATA[So you remove it from direct attack]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[After all in any business you shouldn't be having your Internal Workstations in Direct Contact with the Outside World.You also make an Excellent Case for not using any Microsoft product because what you are saying about XP holds true for everything else that they make. ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:31:59 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Because XP is broken]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The security model is badly flawed. Microsoft is regularly patching flaws that could &quot;allow a remote attacker to gain control over the system&quot;. They've mostly stayed ahead of the hackers. But once they stop patching the hackers have plenty of time to catch up and the risk to your data rises significantly.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew232006]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 05:16:56 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[File an Extension]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Im betting Microsoft will EXTEND XP till the end of time, it will be called &quot;The Tardus&quot;]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[firebird2711]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:36:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[End of XP support.]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[XP continues for account for 43% of enterprise desktop infrastructures in UK, it may include cost for migration.XP is phased out only when new systems are taken to consideration.Sentimental aspect is, people have no intention of moving off from Windows XP, even if Microsoft discontinues support.1. Win7 doesnt support only 8% of the programs compared to Win XP.2. They can be made compatible by installation of new softwares like by using DosBox to enlarge the window preview.2. XP has poor performance because it doesnt support 3D acceleration.3. XP start up time and shut down differs:Startup: XP-0.49s      Win7-1:03sShut down: XP-17s   Win7-11.5sMANJUSHA L]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Manju.L]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 07:25:54 -0700</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The same happened with XP]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[When it was first released a lot of people complained and many where accurately complaining that it required much more Hardware than 98 did. At the time Microsoft sold 98 and XP side by side and 98 dramatically outsold XP till it was removed from sale sometime around the release of SP1.Actually it wasn't until SP1 was released that XP really got accepted and turned into the OS that many don't want prized from their Cold Dead Flippers. Seems that the more that things change the more that they stay the same. Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:06:50 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Not sure I'd call them that]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[But SP1 was out before I got it at work, and SP2 when I got it at home.Actually thinking about it, anyone who relies on version 0 of an OS is certainly someone who's opinion I don't value that highly. ]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Hopkinson]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:16:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Vista]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The wankers disliked Vista for other reasons: lack of drivers for the OS. Lack of 64-bit apps. Different interface.Most of the wankers where those who used the leaked betas and RCs or bought it in the first day of selling and then moaned that certain things didn't work.Fast forward 2 years after its release. I installed it on my system. No driver issues, no software issues, no BSOD [the system had Win XP and was built prior to Vista coming out].UAC is part of Win 7 but toned down.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Gisabun]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:59:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Errr.....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[If you are getting new updates from Microsoft every time you turn on the computer you either turn it on once a month or you have malware disguised as Microsoft updates on your computer. Oh ya. If you don't mind getting updated by Google every 2-3 weeks, that's fine.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Gisabun]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:53:47 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[That's a rediculous comment...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[You spend money to beef up your network security all the timre. Isn't that a form of &quot;future problems&quot;?Nobody says a company will migrate eveything over in one quarter. Place I worked for took over 9 months from the time they purchased the computers to the time the migration was done. In the mean time, dead laptop batteries were replaced, cleaned up some licensing issues [a few illegal pieces of software installed] and standardized on others. Went from a dozen different FTP software clients to one that is supported.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Gisabun]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:51:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Errr.....]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[According to the stats, Windows 7 overtook Windowes XP a while back. So your first line goes out the window [pardon any pun].You are not being forced to go to Windows 7, 8 or whenever 9 comes out. Stay at Windows XP all you want.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Gisabun]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:41:02 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[reloading a system is easier once support ends]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[it's done by using a completed imageon the last day of support, do the following:- remove the current HDD from the system- install a new HDD- install the OS and activate- get all the updates downloaded  &amp; installed- configure desired settings etc.- take a manual base full image of that install and label it as completed image &quot;OS only&quot;- install and configure the software you use - take another manual base full image and label it as completed image &quot;Full&quot;- remove that HDD and box it on the shelf for when the current one dies- install the original HDD and continue on- verify the system is clean and free of malware etc.- take a manual base image of the current install HDDwhen the day comes for a reload on the current HDDreload from the current image or the fresh install completed imageand it's done in a matter of minutes like 20 to 30,  and not with 60 hours workdone this with win2K when support endedand will do the same for XP in 14 monthsmanual base images can be done with clonezilla (which is free) or just about and other free / paid cloning / backup system imaging software]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[Who Am I Really]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:14:28 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[The point being however was]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[That Vista was fine on complete systems provided by the Big Box Makers from the Get Go. It was also fine on most White Boxes that it was supplied with from the very beginning. It was only a problem for the more specialised add on things like Video Capture Cards and the like.As for not being able to use older hardware with it Vista was no different to XP or any other Windows Release. The Old Hardware that was no longer being sold simply didn't have Vista Drivers. That was what made XP so good for End Users it was the same over the years so the printer that you bought when XP was first released worked with the last version of XP as it had the same drivers.Of course 7 seems so much better than Vista because 7 is Vista Developed and the drivers that worked for Vista are the same as the ones released for 7 despite what they may be labelled as. So ideally as many think that 7 is so much better than Vista they fail to realize that they actually have a Developed Vista which really is much closer to a XP Service Pack 2 than it is to a new version of Windows. When Microsoft released Vista they specifically said that their development cycle was a Service Pack at the 2 year mark and a new named OS which was a development of Vista at the 4 year mark. This was to be repeated for a 10 year cycle at which point they would release a New Ground Up written OS again.So if they follow that Development Cycle the Service Pack released for 8 in a couple of years time will be the end of the development cycle of the Vista,7 and 8 Windows and what comes next will be as different to 8 as Vista was to XP. Of course Microsoft may have rethought their Development Cycle since then but as yet they have not announced it publicly if they have. Of course many people said the same thing about XP as they did about Vista when XP was first released which shows more of a problem with Microsoft than anything else. XP wasn't accepted by business till after the first Service Pack was released and at the first release of XP Microsoft sold both 98SE and XP alongside each other with 98 vastly outselling XP. It was that experience which resulted in Microsoft never again selling 2 OS's side by side as way too many people refused to buy the new one.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 04:25:19 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[XP win 98 and win 3.1]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I still have them all  they do come in handy at timesOh by the way Im almost 70 lol]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[callister]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 02:35:40 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Give it a try]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I suspect that if you download a distro like ZorinOS, SolusOS or Mint with MATE and burn to a CD/DVD and boot the CD/DVD (without installing) and give it a try, you might be surprised. You can run some of the Linux distros from a CD without affecting your HD. It is a good way to find out how small the learning curve can be. ZorinOS can support 3 desktop environments - Gnome 2 (very XP like), XP and Win. 7. Any Linux distro hat still supports Gnome 2 should be an easy &quot;learn&quot; for an XP user - unless you really want to get into the &quot;nuts and bolts&quot;. As for driver problems, you may be surprised and not have any. BTW, at one time I would have suggested Ubuntu, but in release 11.04 they went with Unity as their desktop and it is nowhere near an XP desktop. If you can download Ubuntu 10.04/10.10 (they were using Gnome 2 as the desktop) and burn to a CD, you should find that easy to pick up.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[bobc4012@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:30:32 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Same applied to scanners when W2k and then XP came out]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[I still have a Positive/Negative Scanner that was made many years ago for Professional Photographers that was capable of scanning all Film Stock including 35mm Slides.As My brother used to use Medium Format and occasionally Large Format cameras it was very useful to be able to scan in the images alter as required then sent to a High End Photo Quality Printer.Alas the Printer which was well over 1K can no longer be supplied with Ink Cartridges other than Refills so the color isn't quite right and it's now effectively useless but the scanner which was quite expensive at the time of it's release and cost several K at Trade works perfectly but I have to run it on 98 which I keep a system loaded with and very occasionally use these days.I still scan a few bits of Film Stock in then transfer the images to a XP or newer system to manipulate as required. The scanner is still used though the software that it came with for anything but Image Capture is no longer used mainly because the hardware is so limited and hence slow now days.But there still remain quite a few devices all Industrial that will not have any new drivers written for anything but XP a Vinyl Cutter which is costed at many thousand of dollars is a perfect example. The owner of that device who makes Vinyl Stickers for Motorcycles, Boats, Race Teams and Cars recently bought a new computer to replace his aging one and came across the issue of no new printer drivers being available.So he had the option of paying thousands for a new device and waiting months for delivery and setup or back-loading XP. No prizes for guessing which he chose to do for a device which should last 20 years as apposed to a NB which maybe will last 5.Col]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[HAL 9000]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Nikon Slide Scanner needs XP too...]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[It isn't just Business applications... I have a Nikon Super Coolscan 5000 ED film and slide scanner, which cost me $1000 in 2004, which needs Nikon Scan v4.something, which Nikon have stated they have no plans to upgrade for post-XP OS's. That means I will have to keep my XP laptop going, somehow on my local network but isolated from the Internet for security reasons, to scan all those slides going back to the 70's when I retire.Get another scanner? Nikon doesn't make slide scanners anymore, they have gone digital (as have I, camera-wise). The Coolscan 5000 can output in Nikon RAW format, as can my Nikon digital camera. So preserving my XP laptop is the only way to stick with Nikon RAW.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[harry@...]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:53:34 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Stupid public computer!]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[The above was meant for Tony and HAL 9000.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[noprem]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:11:05 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Easy, guys! :-)]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Both of you mentioned problems that laypeople like myself had. I never needed it because (1) I had a good [legal] Xp/sp2 disc and (2) the later one I found in the thrift shop was an &quot;Anniversary Edition&quot; with Xp Home and Pro, sp2, and Xp-64bit- all for USD one dollar. (How's THAT for ROI?) My wife had already bought a returned/serviced Toshiba laptop in part because it came with Xp after Vista was released. All our H/W so far works fine, and all the S/W we want has Xp versions still available, so far.In the past MS has kept updates for older OSs online, and I wanted to make sure that was still the case, that 'dropping support' didn't mean the older Tuesday stuff was gone. But I do go back far enough to recall when server space was more expensive, so some sites would do housecleaning, I guess, and there would go my upgrades!)BTW Mr Gates or whoever isn't fooling me. &quot;No more blue screen of death&quot; didn't mean 'no crashes', it just meant the crashes no longer produced the BSOD.  Plus, the SysRestore has saved me many times, so I dont need a newer OS for that, as you know.I once thought of going Linux but: the learning curve would be steep, I would certainly have driver problems, and I have a life outside computing!TUVM for all your helpful notes.Doug]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[noprem]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:00:58 -0800</pubDate>
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        <title><![CDATA[Google could fix this]]></title>
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        <description><![CDATA[Just like they brought out Chromebooks for $200 that do most everything a home user needs with no fuss or hassle, they could make a power user desktop with the same lack of Microsoft drama. Us geeks like our obscure Linux distros, where we can fiddle to our hearts' content, but the n00b masses just want something that works. And has a screensaver.]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[james.vandamme]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 06:29:16 -0800</pubDate>
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        <description><![CDATA[I agree 100 % I am refurbishing a old computer which I intend to load win XP as I have noted it was the best .I nowhave win 7 as it ws loaded when I bought my laptop last year XP is the better one by far]]></description>
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        <dc:creator><![CDATA[callister]]></dc:creator>
        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 05:27:12 -0800</pubDate>
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