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It's proven many times over
There have been many cases in the news and other media where people have bought a gun and gone straight to kill someone with it.
Stats are out there somewhere I'm sure, just as most stats are.

Media reports such as this will illustrate that it does happen, in a fit of rage and due to convenience.
"Gun Used To Kill 3 In Ky. Bought Same Day
A gunman enraged by a domestic dispute bought a gun and fatally shot his former girlfriend, her uncle and her cousin in the parking lot of a small southeastern Kentucky college, police said Wednesday.
Caitlin Cornett, 20, and her uncle Jackie Cornett, 53, were found dead at the scene when police arrived about 6 p.m. Tuesday, Hazard Police Chief Minor Allen said. Twelve-year-old Taylor Jade Cornett, who police said was shot multiple times, died Wednesday afternoon at University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington, said Fayette County Coroner Gary Ginn.

A semiautomatic pistol that was found at the scene and believed to have been used in the shooting was purchased the same day at a local pawn shop, Allen said."

"The Wisconsin gunman who killed his wife and two other women bought the weapon two days after a court ordered him to turn in all firearms under the terms of a restraining order, police said Monday."

A court order that would have shown up and stopped him from buying that gun IF there was a mandatory waiting period to obtain the permit.


The above was over a custody swap where they were to exchange custody of a 2 year old boy. If he had to wait a month and go through most stringent screening would this have happened? From the sound of the story, it was due to convenience and accessibility.

Another
"Haughton was arrested earlier this month for slashing his wife's tires; she was granted a four-year restraining order on Thursday.

Under the order, Haughton was prohibited from owning a firearm. But police said Monday that Haughton bought the .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun used in the deadly shooting two days later."

If there was a mandatory delay, as there is in most other countries (such as min 45 days here) his court order would most likely have shown up and shown that he was TRYING to buy a gun, authorities alerted so they can arrest him or take whatever legal action is applicable. The fact they he went straight out and 'quickly' bought a gun before paperwork was processed showing his restraining order, he was able to then go and kill with it.

Suspect Bought Gun 3 Days Before Shootings
"``He completed the necessary forms. He did everything he was supposed to do,'' Wallace said referring to the federal firearms law that requires people buying firearms to fill out a form stating they had not been convicted of a felony. ``The paperwork was in line. So was his clearance.''

....never happens.

The old, "how many people have to die before it is a problem?" must apply here too.

Therefore, from your personal perspective...how many people have to be killed in order for you to see it as a problem?
30, 500,1000? Provide an actual figure because you want stats to add weight to the reasoning.

Maybe it's a percentage that you need? 12% of all murders? The vast majority? 11% more than those who bought illegally off the streets?

Your comment is completely senseless as you are simply looking for a figure to justify how much is too much and requires corrective action an you don't even have a figure in mind to agree when it is too much.

If it was 1%, and a change in law stopped 1% from such murders, I assume that's not anywhere near enough for you to agree to corrective action, it's only 1% and it wasn't YOUR loved ones...this time.

Face it, America has a serious problem. A problem not duplicated anywhere else on the planet. America has some of the loosest gun laws on the planet, due to some text that was written several hundred years ago by a group of men who coexisted in a very different nation than the one you live in today. Yet you hang on to this outdated script as if it was sacred. It's 200+ year old POLITICAL views, nothing sacred.

When millions of Americans start seeing protecting gun ownership laws as more important than protecting American lives, you have some real issues with the mindset of American society.

What makes YOUR warped mindset and disregard for American lives any different than the mindset of a criminal who also disregards American lives? He's not a nutcase, in HIS mind, either.
Posted by aidemzo_adanac
Updated - 18th Jan