I think I follow Palmetto's lead on this and I also wonder how changing how guns are registered actually infringes on the right to bear arms.As far as I can tell, nobody has removed rights, they are just keeping a registry of who, what and when.
I light of the current out of control situation, is it really so impeding ?
Secondly, and I see both views to this again, why would registering your guns with the Federal government be an issue? Do you oppose having your licence plate number being held in a central database ? If not, is the difference simply the fact that you don't have a right to drive noted in the Constitution?
I know, 'they know enough about me already, too much in fact, why do they need to micromanage my affairs?
I completely agree with that view point too, in fact I simply didn't exist about 5 years ago, England thought I was Canadian, Canada thought I was British, income tax didn't know where I was etc. It felt pretty nice for a few years but I really don't care now and am tracked like a bear in the woods.
What is the actual issue with respect to the 2nd amendment though?
Is it a feeling that the loss of SOME rights will lead to the loss of others too?
Is it even an actual loss of rights? Control, not removal?
Is it that American rights get trampled on enough and people are just fed up now?
Is it that the information they want to collect is seen as useless and just a reason to collect personal data?
I just don't get how it's an issue or why people are so enraged over the whole matter. If it was me, I don't know how I would oppose it, not being American of course.
Living in Canada, I thought it was pretty easy to go and get a permit, I didn't find a mandatory wait time to be an inconvenience of any sort. As long as you are not a criminal or psycho, you can have a gun, that basis seems pretty fair and acceptable to me, in fact I'm glad someone IS keeping tabs on guns.
Perhaps this really is one of those things that, unless you are American, you just don't understand it.
or is it one of those things where, you FEEL, that unless someone is American they wouldn't understand freedoms and liberties?
How its even a topic of discussion that lasted more than 5 minutes baffles me.
To me its like saying "The number of deaths due to guns is going through the roof in our country. Let's put together a together registry and REALLY check people out before issuing a permit."
To me that would be,
'I second the motion',
'motion carried, next order of business...'
Seems like such a no brainer, I just don't get it.
I THINK what Americans see is:
'okay, I second the motion''motion carried'
'next order of business, taking guns away from women under 40'
'motion carried'
'next order of business, taking guns away from white msales living in populated aread'
'motion carried'
etc?
Is that the fear, one allowance will lead to others, give them an inch and they take a mile?
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