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rickho@... 17th Mar 2002
Very good reference for anyone who wants to hop on the certification bandwagon, especially Cisco's. Specifically CCIE is unlike other computer based exams (Multiple Choice Questions), as you are "expected" to have true hands-on experience with their products. This is not, however, a negative point to the Cisco certification, as it truly is a demonstration of your expertise on Cisco products. (vs. the millions of MCPs - Multiple Choice Professionals out there).

A discouraging factor of theCCIE lab exam, for me at least, is the high cost. Not the fee for the exam itself, but the cost of a round trip flight ticket plus accomodation at the testing city. Someday when the lab exam can be simulated on the computer and can be taken in a Prometric test center, I wouldn't be so worried to have to take the exam twice or more to get a passing score.
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If you pass this exam, you will likely be earning
6 figures fairly soon. But you want to complain
about the price to get there? Doctors, Lawyers, etc. pay six figures to get that opportunity. You can have that same opportunity for a few thousand dollars and you want to complain?
Please. happy
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With the high cost of the training, The cost of the test, the time (years) it takes to get to the point where you can even take the test. CCIE remains one of the most respected certs for good reason. Maybe RHCE is close or CISSP even closer. All of these will land you a good job and REQUIRE experience and hands on.

Hmmmm, maybe there is a reason MS is at the bottom of the list.
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I took the CCIE/Security lab in August and didn't pass... I immediately went online to schedule my next slot, and it was MARCH!

Cisco only has 2 slots per day for security... so getting that cert can only be more fun than R&S!

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Interesting article but does anybody know what the waiting times are like in Australia ??
The average 2.6 attempts for me is past 6 now. I earn the proverbial 6-digit salary at what I consider to be the proverbial dream job and I'm a key contributor as a planning/design/architect/implementation/operations network engineer for a 1/2 billion dollar project that is more than a few million dollars worth of Cisco gear not to mention all the trimmings...

The lab can be a little tough, interesting, fun, and yet even when failed a time or two or more can prove to be one of the best investments I've ever made yet.

I have a blog called darbyslogs where I collect my thoughts on the matter.

It works for me with or without digits.

Yep - I got my own lab.

Yep - Been to classes - NMC, INE, IPExpert, Heinz and Narbik.

Going to Narbik this month and maybe as many as 5-6 more times for a total of say... up to weeks if my schedule will permit me.

Cisco Live CCIE Lab Techtorials - Been to 2 so far and I have 2 more scheduled.

Personal Rack - Yep - I got a rack for RS, Wireless, Security, Storage, SP, technically CCDE and arguable CCDE too - even got my Voice gear.

Books - I got easily 30-50k in my bookshelves or so. I get discounts so it helps and I buy used which helps even more or I get up to 45-55% discounts and free shipping or I even review books.

Umm... it can be a challenge.

Am I poor test taker? Probably not - I've taken up to 5 Cisco exams in a single day/sitting and passed them all. So I'm probably not as bad as some.

Is my knowledge diverse? Well I hold every CCNP level certification and some for as long as 10+ year now.

Is my experience lacking? Possibly - however, I've been employed as a lead engineer or a co-lead engineer since 2005 for some named or Fortune 500 companies and one or two prominent names.

Yep my 2.6 attempts is a little more than some others as I go into the 7th inning. However, I can probably joust with a few CCIE's here and there and probably easily hold my own and dish it out too.

I guess the question is what matters most? Digits or becoming a quality network engineer.

I made my decision and it has paid off precisely as I hoped it would and then some.

I'm still after the cert as you can tell. However, it has just taken me a little longer to earn it.

I still turn a wry smile when I here of 3-month CCIE prodigies who passed on the very first attempt.

There is a lot of detail in the CCIE Lab even though I've heard some call it easy before.
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