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Remember that it is called an "interview". The people sitting across from you are looking to find out information about you. At the same time, you may want to consider that you are choosing whether or not you want to spend the next few years with these people. The company has sent one or more people to represent their offer to you.
You should look at the company as a "Candidate" that may prove itself worthy of your services (which should be determined by environment, ethics, attitude, and compensation). If you have not prepared for the interview by finding out as much as you can about the company, you will not be prepared to ask the questions that tell you what it's like to be there day in day out.

Become the interviewer as you let them see what you're made of. From there, decisions can be made as to whether a "mutually beneficial" relationship will exist. Don't settle for a job unless you really need to.
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steve@... 11th Mar 2002
The fact that you are in their environment is actually to your benefit. You get to see what the Corporate Culture is like, what the atmosphere is, whether they want you in a little box, etc. They only get to see someone who is prepared to show their best. I think that this is actually unfair to the company (if you want to look at it that way)! Use it to your advantage.

The last interview I went on, I didn't dress up, I did go prepared, and I made sure they knew what I could do for them.It got me the contract. People pay attention to how you interact.

Good luck,

Cheers!
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Steve,
I can tell that you are, indeed, a real IT Pro! Your advice was absolutely dead on!

My headhunter a few years back was buddies with someone from AOL Canada here in Toronto, so she arranged an interview for me. The 2 interviewers were so cocky to the extent that they were doing me a favor because they're "AO-Hell." First off, the pay sucked, especially for the tight deadlines they wanted. And they could not handle it when I threw one of their questions back in their faces: "Why should I choose to work for AOL instead of another organization??"
Their response?? "Well...we're a great place to work!!!" Yeah, right!!!!!!
Can you imagine if I said, "Well, I'm a great employee" when they asked me "Why should we hire YOU??" The arrogance of these people, eh?? happy
The next day, my headhunter was pissed off at "me" because they gave her the impression that I was "arrogant." Phuck them!! Phuck her!!
AOL failed my TEST when I was at their site!!


The moral of the story? Don't settle for bullshyt career "opportunities" if the employer can't even take a dose of its own medicine!

Romulus.
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I agree with your comments. Genrally there are two sales pitches running concurrently. The interviewee is selling themself and their skills and the interviewer is selling their organisation, department, self as well.

One thing to bear in mind is that, if you are overselling yourself, the interviewer may be also!
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It is a good idea to research about the company. Also look for bad news about the company.

Are they in the middle of a messy law suit or other bad news? They won?t tell you bad news in a interview.

One place saw my resume and said though I do a lot of computer security they didn?t need it. That was a major red flag. So I goggled the company name and the word ?hacked?. I was shocked at what I saw. There was a number of large incidents and they actually had to bring in a major security company to patch them up.
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In the construction business tools are likewise a necessity. You'd be surprised as to how many apply for a carpentry position without owning so much as a hammer. Even a drifter will never leave home without them. I'm presently going through a careerchange myself and at one of my interviews I noticed another applicant with a briefcase on rollers. The kind lawyers like to use. Maybe I'll take my kids gameboy so I'll have something to do while I'm waiting. Who knows, maybe the boss is a gamer.
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I love to fish and I like to game, so I wanted to give you two suggestions.

1- You might not want to bring the gameboy. What if the interviewer thinks that you will game on the job?

2- If you are applying for a serious position, don't put your email address as:
gonefishin52@sbcglobal.net

It doesn't look professional. It does look fun and creative. If you are applying to a fishing/ company, great. But what if the HR person or interviewer hates fishing? What if they assume that youare a lazy fisherman?

I maximize my chances for the job or the 2nd interview by trying to be the person that the company is looking for. I bring my Palm to an interview and I might browse my schedule for the week while waiting. I wouldn't game, b/c the interviewer may ask me what I'm doing, what apps I have, etc. I also bring a notepad w/ questions that I will be asking the interviewer. What will my responsibilities be? What will my typical day look like? What do you like about the company? Dislike?

Good luck!
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Either you've got a very slick sarcastic wit about you, or you like to live risky. A gameboy? To an interview? Hahaha.
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Game Boy?
ChickNCharge 24th Jun 2002
Your comment about maybe the interviewer is a gamer struck home with me. My boyfriend was looking for a job in retail and when the prospective employer called to set up his second interview they wanted him there within 15 minutes. He told them that he would have to come dressed as he was to make it before the department head left. He was wearing a NASCAR baseball hat and the interviewer was a big NASCAR fan. They basically didn't have an interview. They talked for a while about NASCAR and then the guy hired him. PLUS he committed to letting my boyfriend take days off work every year when the races are here.
Maybe it's better than a 1-in-a-million-shot, but still too risky for me. Maybe if I showed up in a Superman t-shirt the interviewer would be a comic book fan and I'd be in luck, but who's going to bet the house on that?

Your safest bet is to show up on time, be professional, and leave the gameboy at home.
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Nice name.Let's arm wrestle. Your boyfriend sounds like my son. Don't sweat the small stuff. It was wrong of the employer to give such short notice but maybe he wanted to see what your boyfriend was made of. Could've been a test. I would've hired the guy too cause it looks like he would come to the office at 3:00 am in his pajamas to get my system back on line.
Way to go!!
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Also, in addition to Mr. Dray's suggestion (which I have also found to be effective), and the above suggestion in the discussion, I also interview the interviewer.

The reason is that, out of my last seven interviews, this habit has put me in the hired position five times. Usually, the discussion goes something along this line:

Interviewer: So, what can you do for our company?
Interviewee: What do you have in mind that I need and would be expected to accomplish?

One simple question cantypically give control of the interview to the interviewee; of course, the opposite is also true. Some interviewers will see this coming a mile away, though, and in one case the interviewer was offended that I was asking questions of him, as he felthe should be the only one asking questions. In retrospect, I am glad that I did not end up working with him, as we would have most likely have been incompatible as coworkers.

Just my 2 cents,

Charles
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I want to make sure that I am joining the right company with the right people. When they ask you for your references, ask them for references both internally and externally for those people with whom you will be interacting. Then do the follow-up and ask the same type of questions as if you were a company getting references for a new employee. You can usually sense things in the interview, but the references may clue you in to the type of person you've just met.
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Familiar object
jp6262amy 11th Mar 2002
When I interviewed for my current position as technical training practitioner, I brought along samples of project plans, procedures, manuals and courseware I had created in previous assignments. I felt quite comfortable in asserting that I could identify training needs, develop training content and manuals, and deliver effective training because I had concrete evidence of my successes right in my hands. My interviewer examined my material and subsequently offered me the job!
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You don't need a tool kit or a teddy bear. I have interviewed people who have brought in bulging briefcases and portfolios and they looked inept as they fumbled with them. The worst people are those that have the gizmo watches, the wireless palm pilots, cell phones and other gadgets strapped to their Batman belt which continually interrupt the interview. Go in naked and be confident of your abilities. If you are not confident, bring your jimmies and a pacifier.
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A bit harsh...
dksmith 15th Mar 2002
These are not security blankets we talking about. These are strategic tools that, in an interview situation, can be very useful. I always take my Palm in an interview and take notes on it. I have had several interviewers comment positively on it.

Your words are negative and assume that the interviewer is just interested in your person and not your skillsets. In the case of the Switch Repair, how else could someone determine if they can repair something without looking inside? Would you hire someone if they said they could repair it without even looking at it? Would you hire a vendor who said they could improve your network without asking how it was currently set up? The answer is NO. In this case, the tool proved the skillsets established in the resume were proveable and true.

Don't hire Mr. Gizmo, that's fine. But hire the person who will solve your company's problems. I am tired of hiring people who ahve no skills behind the certs. I provide situations in my interviews for people to prove themselves at that level. That only makes sense.
I'm picturing a Forest Gump type person interviewing, holding his trusty tool kit. Scary.

Or alternately, picture an interviewee walking into an interview with a box; contents unknown. In this day and age, as an interviewer, I'd be fearful of the undisclosed contents.

Or you could possibly do what a friend and co-worker does: he carries an attache case every day. Inside it is an apple and sandwich. wink

Fun article!
I shouldn't mock what I don't want to understand.

I personally think every interviewee should bring a professional portfolio that includes sample projects, a resume, letters of reference, proof of certifications, etc. On the interviewee's side, it's got to be a confidence booster, and since most interviewee's don't produce a well-organized portfolio (or ANY portfolio, really), inteviewer's are typically impressed.

See... I can be serious.
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Don't they get old and mouldy after a while?

Linus carrys his blanket. Capt. Qweeg carried steel balls. Neither did well in interviews.

Your 'familiar object' should be something that relates to your current skills - I once interviewed a guy who brought out a large 3-ring binder with plastic-covered examples of everything he ever did. Most over 10 years old. Certifications, Attaboy letters, photos of places he'd worked. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to talk convincingly about his current abilities.

If you're going to carry a portfolio of your work, don't overdo it. And make sure it has recent examples.
I think the apple and sandwich were eaten for lunch every day and were replaced daily. happy

Good tip on the portfolio. I hadn't thought about having too much info from the "good old days" and not enough info to showcase your current skills. I don't fall into that category, but it's a valid good.
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It has places for cdroms and floppys, along with a PDA for references and phone numbers. It has places for pens but I use it for screw drivers with changable heads. One of my favorite questions is what would you do in this situation? My answer is always there is no one way to answer that because each situation calls for a diffrent way to handle things.
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I had an interview with a Division Head and the
Network Adminstrator. I impressed the DH. He was a hard nose and I worked through it and had him liking me. BUT, the NA asked me the techical questions. One was about lmhost files and their usage. I gave her the correct answer and she said I was wrong. She was dead wrong. I didn't argue, but politely pointed out why I answered as I did. This was a no win situation. She got defensive and basically said I didn't know what I was talking about. I didn't get the job which was fine with me. Who would want to work for a NA who didn't know what an lmhost file was.
BTW - the recruiter was told I wasn't hired because my skills weren't up to date. Apparently she had forgotten more than she had ever known. wink
Offending the interviewer is always a chance if you're not careful. It is helpful if you have enough time to assess people (and some will give you a lot of info in five minutes).

I have been on job interviews that I knew in five minutes that someone would be difficult to work with (and they backed it up with evidence).
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I was interviewed for a company long ago by a guy that professed to know my language (Visual FoxPro), but when I gave him the correct answer, he thought it was wrong. I was also spoken rudely to by the owner of the company because we had difficult coming to terms on pay.

After I accepted the job, I repeatedly had trouble with the owner until I finally quit. A few months before I quit, the programmer who interviewed me came back from a conference and had learned this nifty thing about programming that happened to be what I told him in the interview! When I told him that, he said "You know, I think you did say that!" Haha.

What a miserable place to work. Not because of that programmer, who was actually an okay guy, but rather because of the owner.

In short, if you get bad vibes during the interview, FOLLOW THAT INSTINCT! It only gets worse after you work there.
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While I was being interviewed for this current job I now hold, I had with me my small briefcase which I held in my lap right through the process. In it I had my certificates and some other paraphernalia. At he end of the interview the interviewers asked me jokingly what was in my bag, a laptop perhaps?
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I have found that carrying a simple thing like a network diagram, table diagrams or flowchart of how users access the systems helps at interview time. The diagrams allows the technical interviewer to realize that my experiences are very similiar tohis. As always a picture is worth 1000 words except to HR people.
LA
Taking a familiar object is important,I have also taking my personal laptop with me,you can have it setup with utilities,diagnostic software and your notes from your experiences in the industry,you can also have cd's that you have come to use in your troubleshooting and repairs perhaps you made them yourself and 3.5 copies of boot disks and a crossover cable or nic card for attaching your laptop to any equipment you are working on and of course as you well mention your toolbox.Good article,by the way it would be a good idea to have the Tec.Rep. members share what other tools besides the ones mentioned they use.
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Did you have a look at Nick Corcodilos' articles and his statement : "At an interview, do the job" ? What you describe looks like this.
About territory, I lived a very funny experience :
A teatcher divided us in two rows facing each other along the walls of a hallway. The psychological pressure was high. He put one of us at each end of the central path, facing each other. Then, he asked for one of those people to stay in place while the second one walked towards him. The fellow who stood in place had to lift a hand to stop the "mobile" one as soon as he would feel it would be good to stop him. This gave a distance. Then, starting from the same place, the "mobile" had to stop as soon as he would feel it would be comfortable for him. It gave a second distance. Same experience with the first "mobile" staying in place and the other fellow becoming the new "mobile". So we got four distances.
The first distance gave the territorial distance of the first guy. "Stop, you enter my territory".
The second one, the territorial distance of the second one when behaving as a conqueror. This distance can be as short as the "sexual distance", which means touching the other one.
Same thing for the second experience. So, feeling uncomfortable in the other's territory may mean you are not a conqueror. Depending upon your job this is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Yes, bringing a familiar object to an interview can be beneficial. But you should think beforehand about What to bring, When to display/show/emphasize it, and Why to bring attention to it.

I brought a bootable network utility CD with me from my last position to my most recent interview (yes, I got the job). When I was asked a question related to the CD, I pulled the CD out and slid it across the table for the interviewer to see and touch. The question was "What is an accomplishment from your last job that you are proud/most proud of ?". I listed several accomplishments and saved the creation of the CD for last.

Granted, the CD was *not* the greatest thing since sliced bread ... but .... it *was* something I was proud of, it *was*something tangible at the moment of questioning, and it *was* something that I conveyed, and temporarily transferred, ownership of, to the interviewer.
I agree with story in that anything that you do to make a interview more comfortable for you is a good thing no matter what type of prop you use.When times were better I would apply for jobs and go and interview even if I was happy with my current job, just for the practice of interviewing. I have read research that says that an interviewing person actually makes up his mind about the applicant within the first minute of the interview and you spend the next 30 mins talking your way in or out ofwhat ever their first impression was(this is where good dress and grooming habits come into play). I was once told I was a perfect fit for a job and we just needed to fill out some additional paperwork. I then went on to fill out a test for personality typing. When she went to grade the test, the HR person said I should review a certain question regarding being envious of a guy next to me at a stop light driving a Corvette. I indicated I would not be envious. She indicated that this was a "red flag" question for people who review these test. From that point on I was on a down hill slide. Needless to say I did not get the job offer. I would say this was a prime indicator of why I did not need that job. I would not be allowed to have my own opinion.I guess the moral of my story is that interviewing is much like rolling the dice. It depends alot on who you get that day and if you are on the same wave lenth as the person you are interviewing with. No matter how qualified you are, if they don't like you,or you don't appear as they would have you too, you won't get hired.
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Familiar Object
Marc L 17th Jun 2002
When I go to a job interview, I either take along
my stuffed giraffe, "Mr. Bugglesworth," or my
blankie. In the middle of a stressful interview, I
pull Mr. Bugglesworth out of his special satin
bag, and then display him proudly. I ask the
interviewer: "Would you like to give Mr.
Bugglesworth a kissy?

I don't know why, but this is usually met with
stony silence on the part of the interviewer. But
that's ok. When I get home, I make tea and
crumpets for myself and Mr. B and wehave a
good laugh!

I ask you, is there any room out there for an IT
professional and a stuffed giraffe?
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I totally agree...

I have always prepared a portfolio of the most recent projects I have worked on.

There is something to be said that actions speak louder than words and every project has been given to me and then some newer ones added. My headhunter gave up on deadlines and said, "Call me...when they are "really" ready to let you go." I never waited for more than one day in-between projects!

So as they say......... STRUT YOUR STUFF!
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Great Idea!
jfford 25th Jul 2002
I have used this same idea by carrying my portfolio with me for interviews and meetings, even where it was not required.
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I found that if I developed a set of questions for the interview I felt more prepared and could show knowledge of the job requirements and company.
I carry it in a notebook, with a copy of my resume and other support materials (list of training, transcripts, certifications, references, letter of references, position announcement, etc.) for my reference. My list of questions covers a range of topics including questions about the position, responsibilities, future, budgets, their vision for the future, professional development, company/employer questions, turnover, benefits, relocation, transfers, area questions, (if relocating), schools, housing, taxes etc.
I don't ask all the questions! I check my list throughout the interview and fill in answers as they may reveal them. In the interview when they ask do you have any questions, that?s when I pull out my list and start interviewing them. Asking them the things I still want to ask, I feel at the time is appropriate and follow up and questions that may not be clear.
Use your gut to know what questions to ask and what questions can wait. It also gives you a reason for follow up.
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Gee . . .
Meesha 26th Aug 2002
I never thought of this as an "edge". I've been doing this naturally for so long that it doesn't even register with me as a "lucky rabbit's foot". I carry a leather bound writing pad holder that also can carry printed and electronic forms of my resume/work. I keep it to the standard letter size since many interviewers like to handout their org charts and so forth. I also alows me to carry a copy of the posted job requirement and any research I've done on the company. All of this makes me feel very comfortable and able to concentrate on the matter at hand. So, thanks for pointing out this issue that I never really thought of as an advantage.
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