It seems i am the only one that thinks that a search is a solution to a problem, users do not look where the put there files. Instead of giving them a tool to find the stuff they misplaced you should make it clear where they place there files.
I see to many people that do not know how to find their folders or use the (windows) explorer.
So my request to software developers is: Please give users better means to arrange the files they use, and simplify and promote the use of file browsers
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Developers do not bear the entire responsibility for poor file management by users. Management is just as responsible for either A) not hiring individuals that are trained on how to use the basic functions of the Windows OS, OR B) not paying for training, OR C) Not enforcing training.
If you are not going to make a basic computer test as part of the hiring process, then you must train. When you do provide training, you must make it mandatory to attend and learn. Those few companies that do train do not make it mandatory to learn and retain the information by testing to complete the course and testing again at a later date to retain the information.
Until users learn that they are responsible to learn how to use a computer, then any search utility will not help.
If you are not going to make a basic computer test as part of the hiring process, then you must train. When you do provide training, you must make it mandatory to attend and learn. Those few companies that do train do not make it mandatory to learn and retain the information by testing to complete the course and testing again at a later date to retain the information.
Until users learn that they are responsible to learn how to use a computer, then any search utility will not help.
I couldn't agree with both comments more. The computer is a tool to acheive an end and the users bear the responsibility to learn how to use the tools the need. The focus on the Search 'tool' in Vista seems to accent a problem left up to the user to solve, and that is find his information. This responsiblity is on both parties. Better ways to organize your information would help users minimize their search for information. This goes back to my old DOS days when I organized other peoples hard drives so they could find their files in one place. 'My Documents' is a step in that direction.
File browsers are a hugely inefficient method of organizing and finding information. We simply have too many files and documents to spend time browsing. The current situation with file systems if that I find it easier to find information on the Web than it is to find a document or email on my computers. The immense success of Google is the recognizition that unstructured data (and regardless of what techies would like their users to do, PCs are masses of unstructured data) needs to be indexed for fast and efficient searching.
Though the new MS tools presented here are a start, I didn't see any mention of searching desktop application databases, most importantly email and attachments in Outlook.
Though the new MS tools presented here are a start, I didn't see any mention of searching desktop application databases, most importantly email and attachments in Outlook.
In Mac OS X, the indexing process of new files happens in real time, as the new file is introduced to the system. For example, a new memory stick is connected to the USB drive, and with-in seconds (sometimes longer) the information is searchable by the "Spot-light tool." Does Vista index in real-time?
Also, I am evaluating great search utilities for Windows (at my place of work), and some offer preview-windows and occurrence-stepping services. Hundreds of instances of the search string may be inside one file, but some tools, like iSYS's Desktop search enables the user to step from occurrence to occurrence. Does Vista plan on offering that feature?
How does Vista's search tool compare with what is out on the market today. Is it a plan for a great tool, or will it be too little, too late when it arrives a year from now?
-Clay Melton, claymelton@yahoo.com
Also, I am evaluating great search utilities for Windows (at my place of work), and some offer preview-windows and occurrence-stepping services. Hundreds of instances of the search string may be inside one file, but some tools, like iSYS's Desktop search enables the user to step from occurrence to occurrence. Does Vista plan on offering that feature?
How does Vista's search tool compare with what is out on the market today. Is it a plan for a great tool, or will it be too little, too late when it arrives a year from now?
-Clay Melton, claymelton@yahoo.com
I have a question: How do you search for 'a' computer on your network? With XP it was quite simple. Does Vista still have this feature????
Windows Vista's new Search features is total crap
How do you even get there to the filter part?
What I see when starting a search from the start menu is
Search Everywhere
Search the Internet
D:
I only want to search pdf or docx files for a particular word.
I understand there's a hugely complex way to go around this and it's taking a long time, but
I do like the Add filter/boolean option; particularly for searching keyword values.
What I see when starting a search from the start menu is
Search Everywhere
Search the Internet
D:
I only want to search pdf or docx files for a particular word.
I understand there's a hugely complex way to go around this and it's taking a long time, but
I do like the Add filter/boolean option; particularly for searching keyword values.
Included with all versions, there is a "Windows Vista Basic" theme which does not use desktop composition, and is geared towards lower-end machines that are not able to use the Desktop Window Manager; this theme being comparable to the Luna XP theme. - Guy Riordan
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