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While short term this may be a stupid move, I think for a long term goal, I'll be better off. Certifications may or may not lose their luster, but an education is forever(ish). I also quite enjoy teaching and want to make sure I stay in the undergraduate/graduate teaching level.
My biggest gripe with the market is that we keep hearing there is a tech shortage, yet IT is still somewhat stagnant in growth.
On that note: The government seems to be taking security more seriously, so I see IT/IS growth in that sector. However, many corporations still seem to be lax with security. I can't image this trend with continue.
My biggest gripe with the market is that we keep hearing there is a tech shortage, yet IT is still somewhat stagnant in growth.
On that note: The government seems to be taking security more seriously, so I see IT/IS growth in that sector. However, many corporations still seem to be lax with security. I can't image this trend with continue.
When I got into IT, or shall I say computer science, I was only thinking about just that; computer science. But now as I work in the IT field, I'm seeing where IT is heading and the job market isn't going in a good direction.
Right now, as I work on my bachelor's, it's more than obvious that getting higher degrees offer a more secured/better chance of getting a job. Teaching is here to stay and colleges/universities and even k-12 schools need persons with the knowledge and experience to teach technology---the way the world is moving. But for me, going for a doctorate isn't get because of monetary reasons. The science is my love and I see it as, if you are going to go....goo all the way.
Right now, as I work on my bachelor's, it's more than obvious that getting higher degrees offer a more secured/better chance of getting a job. Teaching is here to stay and colleges/universities and even k-12 schools need persons with the knowledge and experience to teach technology---the way the world is moving. But for me, going for a doctorate isn't get because of monetary reasons. The science is my love and I see it as, if you are going to go....goo all the way.
Education is the key to anyone?s success! When I got laid off my education was the key that opened doors to starting my own business. Not only that, but I went back to school anyway and finished my Bachelor of Science in CS and started an MBA with a specialty in Accounting and Finance to enhance my business and grow my knowledge. I myself am planning to go ahead and plunge into a PH.D. as well. There was an article not to long in business week (http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/dec2006/bs20061205_649537.htm?chan=search)that stated that hiring with a higher degree, such as a MBA are up. Not for sure how that equates to your current position, but at least there is some credibility that getting a higher degree is worth the money.
While this may not be the route for everyone, it is important to note that I tend to find more opportunities when potential clients find out that I am going for a higher degree. It shows character and discipline in being able to learn and work at the same time. I don?t go around saying that I am degreed, certified, or an MBA candidate though. You need to find that niche that makes you unique. Diversity is that uniqueness that I use to find clients. Not all clients need a Network Administrator, but they do need someone who knows how to budget and help define their growing computer networks. Businesses need people who know how to plan major projects like what I need to know to get my business online. Diversity gives you those strengths.
Diversity also gives you the ability to get a job even when the field you chose is over run with applicants. What I am finding out in the job market is that those without diversity find it harder to get a job in tough markets. IT skills alone will leave you in a rut. Look for other opportunities in your field that will get you back to work. The most overlooked jobs are project managers, budget analysis, and technical writing. These jobs are very important and most pay well. Couple your diversity with IT skills and you can see much higher pay.
Now that I?ve said all of that, the next question people ask is what about certifications?
I don?t give certifications all that much credence. But you should be able to show an potential employer that you have the basic skills and you can prove that by having the basics such as the A+, MCSA, MCSE, CCNA, or even one of the developer certifications. Certifications allow you to jump ahead of the other 1,000 of applicants that applying for the same job.
Now before you jump on me about this, I can?t see where a candidate applying for a job that has experience in IT coupled with certifications and a higher degree will have any problems finding a job. If you are having problems, then go back to my original premise, you need to find a niche that promotes your diversity.
While this may not be the route for everyone, it is important to note that I tend to find more opportunities when potential clients find out that I am going for a higher degree. It shows character and discipline in being able to learn and work at the same time. I don?t go around saying that I am degreed, certified, or an MBA candidate though. You need to find that niche that makes you unique. Diversity is that uniqueness that I use to find clients. Not all clients need a Network Administrator, but they do need someone who knows how to budget and help define their growing computer networks. Businesses need people who know how to plan major projects like what I need to know to get my business online. Diversity gives you those strengths.
Diversity also gives you the ability to get a job even when the field you chose is over run with applicants. What I am finding out in the job market is that those without diversity find it harder to get a job in tough markets. IT skills alone will leave you in a rut. Look for other opportunities in your field that will get you back to work. The most overlooked jobs are project managers, budget analysis, and technical writing. These jobs are very important and most pay well. Couple your diversity with IT skills and you can see much higher pay.
Now that I?ve said all of that, the next question people ask is what about certifications?
I don?t give certifications all that much credence. But you should be able to show an potential employer that you have the basic skills and you can prove that by having the basics such as the A+, MCSA, MCSE, CCNA, or even one of the developer certifications. Certifications allow you to jump ahead of the other 1,000 of applicants that applying for the same job.
Now before you jump on me about this, I can?t see where a candidate applying for a job that has experience in IT coupled with certifications and a higher degree will have any problems finding a job. If you are having problems, then go back to my original premise, you need to find a niche that promotes your diversity.
I know people with tons of degrees and education that are having problems finding work.
A friend of mine (along with quite a few others) was one of the people laid off at Sun Microsystems.
He has an MBA from Duke!
Another friend of mine has an MBA from West Virginia University,he works for a bank repossessing cars!
Keep on believing this great lie that is being handed to us.
Quiet desperation shouldn't be the way of our lives.
Lou Dobbs has this one right.
There is a war being waged on the middle class and unless you are willing to step up to the plate ,all you'll get is lip service from those in power.
They could care less about you or your life.
A friend of mine (along with quite a few others) was one of the people laid off at Sun Microsystems.
He has an MBA from Duke!
Another friend of mine has an MBA from West Virginia University,he works for a bank repossessing cars!
Keep on believing this great lie that is being handed to us.
Quiet desperation shouldn't be the way of our lives.
Lou Dobbs has this one right.
There is a war being waged on the middle class and unless you are willing to step up to the plate ,all you'll get is lip service from those in power.
They could care less about you or your life.
If you are having problems, then go back to my original premise, you need to find a niche that promotes your diversity.
What is their niche? Obviously these people don't have one otherwise they wouldn't be in their current position.
Middle class is a general classification such as being a programmer or a network administrator. Just because I have those skills or saying that I am in the middle class does not make me unique nor does it define my niche.
You need to go back to the definition of niche. By definition, then, a person that focuses on a niche market is addressing a need for a product or service that is not being addressed by mainstream or general applicants. A niche market may be thought of as a narrowly defined group of potential uniqueness.
That's the problem with most American's. They see other's do it so they think they can do it well. A good example to illustrate my point is the lottery. How many people waste their money on such an improbability of winning. Because they see others winning.
Furthermore your examples prove my point that through their diversity they were able to land a job that may not be their career, but allows them to continue to make some money while they should be figuring out their next moves.
At least here in the United States education is the great equalizer. Money or parentage be damned. If you are educated and can use that education, opportunities will come to you. Of course a little hustle does not hurt either.
What is their niche? Obviously these people don't have one otherwise they wouldn't be in their current position.
Middle class is a general classification such as being a programmer or a network administrator. Just because I have those skills or saying that I am in the middle class does not make me unique nor does it define my niche.
You need to go back to the definition of niche. By definition, then, a person that focuses on a niche market is addressing a need for a product or service that is not being addressed by mainstream or general applicants. A niche market may be thought of as a narrowly defined group of potential uniqueness.
That's the problem with most American's. They see other's do it so they think they can do it well. A good example to illustrate my point is the lottery. How many people waste their money on such an improbability of winning. Because they see others winning.
Furthermore your examples prove my point that through their diversity they were able to land a job that may not be their career, but allows them to continue to make some money while they should be figuring out their next moves.
At least here in the United States education is the great equalizer. Money or parentage be damned. If you are educated and can use that education, opportunities will come to you. Of course a little hustle does not hurt either.
Ok, not yet, but if the trend continues. Computer forensics seems to be a good field right now. There is a lot of work in both civil and criminal arenas, but you really do need solid training and the right equipment and software to do it right.
But there are some days recently where I'm getting my fill of computers, and would rather sit in my garden nibbling on herbs than deal with another technical issue. But that doesn't pay the bills, so I get to keep learning.
But there are some days recently where I'm getting my fill of computers, and would rather sit in my garden nibbling on herbs than deal with another technical issue. But that doesn't pay the bills, so I get to keep learning.
I've been continuously employed since Jan 81. The market will always kill you if you pay attention to it. Learn and get experience in something, it will stand you in much greater stead than continually taking two week courses in the latest flavour of the month unproven techno bibble babble.
The market is about selling the next opportunity, all other considerations are secondary.
The market is about selling the next opportunity, all other considerations are secondary.
Also, like it or not, once you've developed that skill learn to translate your skills to business situations. I'm not an MBA type at all but my career got better when I was able to volunteer some technical solutions to standing business challenges. Nothing helps your career like having someone with real clout say "you could do that?" And then you must do it...
Problem is you have to keep doing it. My old boss left and I'm now facing the same challenge but now management is looking at outsourcing to a services company. Sure, I could keep my job and now work for IBM in the same building I'm currently in. But will it be interesting? Will it be secure?
Problem is you have to keep doing it. My old boss left and I'm now facing the same challenge but now management is looking at outsourcing to a services company. Sure, I could keep my job and now work for IBM in the same building I'm currently in. But will it be interesting? Will it be secure?
Think career security. Learning how to pass cert exams costs a lot and you get found out quick if you can't apply them.
Identify another market in which everyone needs the product no matter what. Services is are hot and with all the baby-boomers retiring there will be a big need for more services.
After 25 years in IT I think I have had my fill of it.
After 25 years in IT I think I have had my fill of it.
It's a slow monday morning, so here comes a short story. I
started my IT career in 1987 working for a small retail computer
store. I have a BA in English Literature and I began working as in
shipping and receiving. Within 6 months I was the service
manager, handling all facets of service, including supervising
employees, purchasing, etc.
After a few years I was offered a position with a local city
government to do tech support. The pay was much better than
the retail outfit, so I took to the job. To make a long story short,
I spent 12 years with the City. I moved my way up from
technician, to lead technician, network manager, and helpdesk
manager. I did most of the writing for the IT department
(policies, procedures, rfp's), including writing a Technology plan.
I spent the last few years with the city as a Technology Manager,
supervising (4 years of management experience) the support
staff.
But then my job at the City began to go "bad". The political and
economic climate took a turn for the worse and my job became
very stressful. It got to the point where I couldn't even do my
job. So my girlfriend and I decided to make a move to San
Diego-we had been living in the bay area. I was used to making
about $80k per year. I started at $40k in 1989 with the city.
Once we moved to San Diego, I took a 6 month vacation on the
money I had been saving. I never ramped up my standard of
living to high, so I was able to get by on a pretty modest
monthly income. After 6 months, I tried consulting for a while
but that didn't go so well as work was very slow. I made a few
bucks but not enough to live on permanently.
So I began looking for work again. After about 6 months of
sending out cover letter's and resume's, I found a position doing
product support and managing enterprise customers for an e-
commerce startup. The pay was much lower than I was used to
but I didn't mind as I figured it was good experience for me. In
the end, this position didn't work out so well as it turned into a
dead end with no room for real advancement within the
company. After 1 year, I left the position and began looking for
work again.
Now keep in mind, most of my experience was in governement
and governement was NOT doing much hiring in San Diego as
they were all pressed for funds. I spent 9 months sending out
cover letter's and resume's. The only real hit I got was for a job
with the University as a technical writer/web editor. I passed on
this position as my girlfriend and I were getting married and we
were going on our honeymoon. We then decided (neither of us
found work we enjoyed) to move back to Norcal. My wife found
a position with the USDA managing a lab (she had worked for
the Feds previously) but I still did not have a job.
So I began applying for positions pretty feverishly. I figured that
since most of my experience was in the government, I should
apply there. So I began applying with the State of California. Let
me just say that was a frustrating experience. The state was
hiring madly but only internally, you had to be on their eligibility
list (this wasn't very clear as I was applying) and you couldn't get
on that list unless you were a previous employee or you had
taken a test. Unfortunately, the testing was closed and had been
closed for over 3 years. The bottom line was, I was not going to
find a position with the state even though I was perfectly
qualified. It was a closed system at this point.
Ok, so I was really bummed for a day. Then I decided to refocus
my efforts with the local university, UC Davis. One thing I
already knew quite clearly: I needed to find work in goverment,
acadamia, or with a non-profit. The private sector, with it's
profit motivated orientation, was not for me.
So I began to refocus my efforts with UC Davis. I applied for
multiple positions, including positions for which I was
overqualified. I applied for support and management positions.
After a few months I still had not even had a bite. I was getting
frustrated. I have a great resume, lots of experience, I write
well and my cover letter's were compelling. But I was not getting
any hits on these positions at all.
Then I had the idea to try something a little different; I applied
for an "editing" position which required good computer skills.
In this instance, I believe my BA in English Literature and all the
documents I had authored (and the websites I had built) is part
of what got me this job.
So now I'm working as a "web editor" making horrible pay. Ok,
so what's so great about that? Well, I can live on this salary
quite nicely. Also, I get great benefits and working on campus is
a joy. Finally, I feel that I'm contributing to the public good as I
work to create documents for a statewide agricultural program
in IPM (Integrated Pest Management). Finally, this position is
absolutely the least stressfull job I have ever had in my entire
life.
Have I abandoned my former skills? Of course not, but the point
goes to the question of "hybridizing" one's skill set. If I had not
spent time consulting, building websites and honing my writing
skills, I would not be in this position at all. Do I miss my old
position as a technology manager? Well maybe some of the
elements, sure, but I don't miss all the crap! So quality of life is
important too.
One other thing I wanted to mention. I have loads of work
experience and proven project management skills, but I don't
have certs. Not having certs really seemed to hurt me in the
private sector (not so much in the public sector) as many
employers weed people out solely based on certs. Yes, it's not
fair and the recruiters miss out on a lot of talent but this is just
how it is.
So now I have work I enjoy that is an easy commute. My wife
and I both work on the campus and I'm pretty happy about this.
Will I stay in this position forever? Probably not but now I have
my "foot in the door" which is a good thing. Also, one last thing
I wanted to mention about industry specific experience. I have
noticed that many employers are reluctant to hire folks who do
not have industry specific experience. More and more, IT is
becoming specialized. Where once you could move between
industries and sectors pretty easily, this is becoming less so as
the years move on.
Anyway, that is my story. Yes, technically I'm underemployed
but that does not really concern me at the moment. The point is
that peripheral skills I developed and a good education got me
back in the workforce after being unemployed for almost 10
months.
-AS
started my IT career in 1987 working for a small retail computer
store. I have a BA in English Literature and I began working as in
shipping and receiving. Within 6 months I was the service
manager, handling all facets of service, including supervising
employees, purchasing, etc.
After a few years I was offered a position with a local city
government to do tech support. The pay was much better than
the retail outfit, so I took to the job. To make a long story short,
I spent 12 years with the City. I moved my way up from
technician, to lead technician, network manager, and helpdesk
manager. I did most of the writing for the IT department
(policies, procedures, rfp's), including writing a Technology plan.
I spent the last few years with the city as a Technology Manager,
supervising (4 years of management experience) the support
staff.
But then my job at the City began to go "bad". The political and
economic climate took a turn for the worse and my job became
very stressful. It got to the point where I couldn't even do my
job. So my girlfriend and I decided to make a move to San
Diego-we had been living in the bay area. I was used to making
about $80k per year. I started at $40k in 1989 with the city.
Once we moved to San Diego, I took a 6 month vacation on the
money I had been saving. I never ramped up my standard of
living to high, so I was able to get by on a pretty modest
monthly income. After 6 months, I tried consulting for a while
but that didn't go so well as work was very slow. I made a few
bucks but not enough to live on permanently.
So I began looking for work again. After about 6 months of
sending out cover letter's and resume's, I found a position doing
product support and managing enterprise customers for an e-
commerce startup. The pay was much lower than I was used to
but I didn't mind as I figured it was good experience for me. In
the end, this position didn't work out so well as it turned into a
dead end with no room for real advancement within the
company. After 1 year, I left the position and began looking for
work again.
Now keep in mind, most of my experience was in governement
and governement was NOT doing much hiring in San Diego as
they were all pressed for funds. I spent 9 months sending out
cover letter's and resume's. The only real hit I got was for a job
with the University as a technical writer/web editor. I passed on
this position as my girlfriend and I were getting married and we
were going on our honeymoon. We then decided (neither of us
found work we enjoyed) to move back to Norcal. My wife found
a position with the USDA managing a lab (she had worked for
the Feds previously) but I still did not have a job.
So I began applying for positions pretty feverishly. I figured that
since most of my experience was in the government, I should
apply there. So I began applying with the State of California. Let
me just say that was a frustrating experience. The state was
hiring madly but only internally, you had to be on their eligibility
list (this wasn't very clear as I was applying) and you couldn't get
on that list unless you were a previous employee or you had
taken a test. Unfortunately, the testing was closed and had been
closed for over 3 years. The bottom line was, I was not going to
find a position with the state even though I was perfectly
qualified. It was a closed system at this point.
Ok, so I was really bummed for a day. Then I decided to refocus
my efforts with the local university, UC Davis. One thing I
already knew quite clearly: I needed to find work in goverment,
acadamia, or with a non-profit. The private sector, with it's
profit motivated orientation, was not for me.
So I began to refocus my efforts with UC Davis. I applied for
multiple positions, including positions for which I was
overqualified. I applied for support and management positions.
After a few months I still had not even had a bite. I was getting
frustrated. I have a great resume, lots of experience, I write
well and my cover letter's were compelling. But I was not getting
any hits on these positions at all.
Then I had the idea to try something a little different; I applied
for an "editing" position which required good computer skills.
In this instance, I believe my BA in English Literature and all the
documents I had authored (and the websites I had built) is part
of what got me this job.
So now I'm working as a "web editor" making horrible pay. Ok,
so what's so great about that? Well, I can live on this salary
quite nicely. Also, I get great benefits and working on campus is
a joy. Finally, I feel that I'm contributing to the public good as I
work to create documents for a statewide agricultural program
in IPM (Integrated Pest Management). Finally, this position is
absolutely the least stressfull job I have ever had in my entire
life.
Have I abandoned my former skills? Of course not, but the point
goes to the question of "hybridizing" one's skill set. If I had not
spent time consulting, building websites and honing my writing
skills, I would not be in this position at all. Do I miss my old
position as a technology manager? Well maybe some of the
elements, sure, but I don't miss all the crap! So quality of life is
important too.
One other thing I wanted to mention. I have loads of work
experience and proven project management skills, but I don't
have certs. Not having certs really seemed to hurt me in the
private sector (not so much in the public sector) as many
employers weed people out solely based on certs. Yes, it's not
fair and the recruiters miss out on a lot of talent but this is just
how it is.
So now I have work I enjoy that is an easy commute. My wife
and I both work on the campus and I'm pretty happy about this.
Will I stay in this position forever? Probably not but now I have
my "foot in the door" which is a good thing. Also, one last thing
I wanted to mention about industry specific experience. I have
noticed that many employers are reluctant to hire folks who do
not have industry specific experience. More and more, IT is
becoming specialized. Where once you could move between
industries and sectors pretty easily, this is becoming less so as
the years move on.
Anyway, that is my story. Yes, technically I'm underemployed
but that does not really concern me at the moment. The point is
that peripheral skills I developed and a good education got me
back in the workforce after being unemployed for almost 10
months.
-AS
My first IT job, a 1975 vintage LAN (MAN these days), was a fluke. I was a graphics artist and photographer for an in-house ad agency at an electronics company that CBS Records had targeted for acquisition. The first minicomputer installed at the Berkeley POS (Point-of-sale) location would not boot as the New York "Black Rock" CBS execs were to begin their tour. The near-panicked IT team decided that lunch would be a great diversion for the 45 min. to 2 hours it would take for the only experienced LAN tech in the world to appear. I tried a key on my chain that amazingly fit the access panel on the computer and found 16 switches with lights, some up, some not. A company decal listed a factory phone number for 4Phase Systems which I called and a manufacturing line foreman answered and was surprised to hear me ask how to make the computer start. He guided me through a series of switchings and button pressings which did make the computer start. Voila! The American Dream. I was a hero, swept into (and almost kissed by a grateful systems analyst) the Computer Central team as a field service technician. Subsequent military computer training, Control Data mainframe certifications and a great enemy, the Russians, kept me so marketable that I rarely even submitted a resume until 3 months or so after starting projects with all of the top defense contractors. Then Perestroika, my age and a whole bunch of new people changed the world for me...and moved MY Cheese. Though I enjoyed alot of travel, really cool high tech environments and even money which seems I never had time to enjoy I did miss the first job for which I went to college. I liked art even though the IBM Selectric was King back then and the darkroom was just that. Enter Adobe, Macromedia, ULead, et al.: my first experience with PCs was to draw something. My first experience with Illustrator was a full year before I could draw a fish but I was happy again. Now as I await a security clearance...again but this time for over a year with investigations being outsourced now I spend alot of time learning web design. And if I can't compete there then I can sure teach the things that I have learned. If the money is there I will spend it and if not I have a diversion that makes me happy.
As a geek, I've enjoyed many years in the IT field, specifically network communications. Here's what I plan to do:
1.) Keep doing what I love - data communications.
2.) I will not move to a management track. I love hands on work, don't want to deal with the politics, and I want to stay true to my life's calling.
3.) Diversify my networking skill set with LAN/WAN connectivity, VoIP, and network security.
4.) Maintain appropriate certifications and avail myself of "unofficial" educational events (marketing presentations, product demos, conferences, etc.). Subscribe to all appropriate trade rags. Regular tech web surfing.
5.) Become active in local IT organizations (ISSA, Infragard, etc.)
6.) Volunteer to serve local government organizations as they work with DHS to shore up emergency communication response plans.
7.) Network with local peers and try to get my name out into the community.
8.) Integrate my other less-active hobby (Amateur Radio) into the mix, as public service communications combined with data comm is a useful combination to various organizations.
At some point, I guess I'll try to have a life, as I hear they're nice.
Actually, I try to keep God at the center of my life, so balance between family, church, friends, and work is maintained. I really like the old saying, "...find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
1.) Keep doing what I love - data communications.
2.) I will not move to a management track. I love hands on work, don't want to deal with the politics, and I want to stay true to my life's calling.
3.) Diversify my networking skill set with LAN/WAN connectivity, VoIP, and network security.
4.) Maintain appropriate certifications and avail myself of "unofficial" educational events (marketing presentations, product demos, conferences, etc.). Subscribe to all appropriate trade rags. Regular tech web surfing.
5.) Become active in local IT organizations (ISSA, Infragard, etc.)
6.) Volunteer to serve local government organizations as they work with DHS to shore up emergency communication response plans.
7.) Network with local peers and try to get my name out into the community.
8.) Integrate my other less-active hobby (Amateur Radio) into the mix, as public service communications combined with data comm is a useful combination to various organizations.
At some point, I guess I'll try to have a life, as I hear they're nice.
Actually, I try to keep God at the center of my life, so balance between family, church, friends, and work is maintained. I really like the old saying, "...find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life."
Coming from both worlds as an senior executive and as an IT professional, I can see that the issue here is end value for money. The people who follow this proscription rarely are outsourced unless IT itself is to be outsourced. I say be versatile yes but also be a prized asset by being the go to person who delivers timely high quality results every time. In my experience sweat shops can not and do not deliver value they deliver cheap quick and dirty products that often need fixing and thus cost more in the long run. If one focuses on quality and value as deliverables and further focuses on working with like minded companies they will not only survive but will thrive as the low value companied fail to attract customers who are wise to bad merchandise and lousy service,
Of course I'm not saying to jump from IT to a (stricly) business direction, but as the saying goes (like it or not) 'business drives IT', not the other way around. IT people need to be aware of what direction the business community, as a whole, is going. As one recent report states, (sorry, paraphrasing now 'cause it seems I deleted the original article) CEO's are turning towards 'keeping what they have' instead of concentrating on growth only. The reasons? Regulations (example: only 38% of businesses that are under SOX are compliant), security (data/network protection, lawsuit protection, consumer/stockholder confidence), disaster recovery/biz continuity (even after 9/11 it took Katrina to REALLY wake some CEOs up) and more.
I'm not saying do a 180 in your career, but expanding on it by seeing what business requirements are becoming relevant. This does not mean jumping on every band wagon that comes along with every new survey, but taking the 'looking at the forest' approach versus' looking at the tress.'
Like I said, IMHO
Lando
I'm not saying do a 180 in your career, but expanding on it by seeing what business requirements are becoming relevant. This does not mean jumping on every band wagon that comes along with every new survey, but taking the 'looking at the forest' approach versus' looking at the tress.'
Like I said, IMHO
Lando
The greater question to me is the viability of a society which promotes an outsourcing business model. It seems that everyone is ignoring the fact that corporations benefit greatly from doing business in this country. The legal system, tax system, employees and business environment all permit them to be as successful as they are (which is much more than in other developed or developing countries). This is subsidized by the employees who pay taxes, patronize local businesses and participate in their communities.
The question that is not being asked is, who will pay for these corporate benefits when jobs are outsourced? Employees located in India or China? Corporations are being given carte blanche by the US government, and a citizenry who only look for the cheapest products without considering how they are produced, ignoring the effect that will have on our communities. We will all ultimately pay the price for this short-sighted profiteering.
The question that is not being asked is, who will pay for these corporate benefits when jobs are outsourced? Employees located in India or China? Corporations are being given carte blanche by the US government, and a citizenry who only look for the cheapest products without considering how they are produced, ignoring the effect that will have on our communities. We will all ultimately pay the price for this short-sighted profiteering.
Understanding that globalization is the future is one thing. But sloppy management of the Countries cashflow is only going to hurt the citizens. Let's not get caught up in saying that this is strictly for lower prices for consumers, it's for profit. But I think the way I'm going to deal with it is to focus more on being the center point in where technologies interact with each other. If that means killing myself learning 3 or 4 different enviorments or 2 or 3 different programming languages as well as business skills then that would be a small price to pay.
Do you honestly believe that with globalization and give the customer as little support as humanly possible in the tech biz, will be fixed by us diversifying?
Get real, if they can get some half @ssed Indian or Pilipino to do your job at 1/10th to 1/20th the cost, do you think that you have a snowballs chance in hell?
Why do you think the CS undergrad program at places like MIT is losing student enrollment?
Between the clowns in Washington taking money from M$ and other lowlife "screw the middle class" corporations, what do you think that more education is going to do?
Another day older and deeper in debt!
All the US gov cares about, is whether or not you can pay your taxes.
Since voting doesn't seem to make a difference, what alternatives are left the declining middle class?
Study labor relations of the early 20th century for the answer (and it' ain't singing Kumbaya)
Get real, if they can get some half @ssed Indian or Pilipino to do your job at 1/10th to 1/20th the cost, do you think that you have a snowballs chance in hell?
Why do you think the CS undergrad program at places like MIT is losing student enrollment?
Between the clowns in Washington taking money from M$ and other lowlife "screw the middle class" corporations, what do you think that more education is going to do?
Another day older and deeper in debt!
All the US gov cares about, is whether or not you can pay your taxes.
Since voting doesn't seem to make a difference, what alternatives are left the declining middle class?
Study labor relations of the early 20th century for the answer (and it' ain't singing Kumbaya)
Good article! I've seen people get laid-off and point the finger at someone else for their ill fortune. Diversify your skill set and you widen your "safety net" in the event you are let go.
I work in a research organization of the Chinese government, which focuses on the outsourcing industry in China.
1.The "hybrid" form of skill could be useless if the demond of the market for the hybird employees is not adequent enough to serve the cheese.
2.Could you plz tell me why the employers will use the hybrid with high salary rather than pay for the 2 cheap less skilled indians(or Chinese)? You've got 2 skills doesnt't mean that you are able to take on 2 jobs with the best quality.
1.The "hybrid" form of skill could be useless if the demond of the market for the hybird employees is not adequent enough to serve the cheese.
2.Could you plz tell me why the employers will use the hybrid with high salary rather than pay for the 2 cheap less skilled indians(or Chinese)? You've got 2 skills doesnt't mean that you are able to take on 2 jobs with the best quality.
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