No luck with Google. Or, for that matter, Wolfram Alpha and the Library of Congress.
I would RTFM, but it is not to be had.
Work it out for me, would you.
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Quite easy actually Santee
You are asking the wrong questions of Google and you need to enter the Search Parameters in the rest correctly.
As for RTFM you also need to correctly enter the details to actually find the Manual as it's hidden in a Locked Filing Cabinet in the subbasement down blocked stairs with no lift and the lights have been removed.
Fairly Typical Bureaucratic steps actually they hide what they don't want you finding and then ask why you didn't look there for the correct directions.
Col
As for RTFM you also need to correctly enter the details to actually find the Manual as it's hidden in a Locked Filing Cabinet in the subbasement down blocked stairs with no lift and the lights have been removed.
Fairly Typical Bureaucratic steps actually they hide what they don't want you finding and then ask why you didn't look there for the correct directions.
Col
24th Jun 2010
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Putting my people on your revealments as we speak.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
The above assumes that you can actually get a Internet Connection to begin with. If you can not get a Browser Home Page to load it's all useless. 
But as you didn't say any differently I'm assuming that you at the very least could get the Web Home Page.
If you can't I would suggest using Boot & Nuke to wipe the HDD to get rid of every trace of Windows 7 and reload XP which just works out of the box.
Col
But as you didn't say any differently I'm assuming that you at the very least could get the Web Home Page.
If you can't I would suggest using Boot & Nuke to wipe the HDD to get rid of every trace of Windows 7 and reload XP which just works out of the box.
Col
OH Smeg
24th Jun 2010
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Is this
an off-topic, 'metaphysical' thing?
24th Jun 2010
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It is clearly tagged, "Security".
If I can't secure it, what can I secure?
If I can't secure it, what can I secure?
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
"God".
boxfiddler
24th Jun 2010
The bellows to my Mechanical Turk just failed.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
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Perhaps
The nature of your queries are darker than that which our (potentially flawed) googletron is legally obliged to answer.
Or elsewhile.
They say 'Computers are only as smart as the man who built them'. It has taken me a good 12 months to be able to decipher your posts with minimal dictionary references (though I still have it on-hand at all times), so how, then, do you expect a machine which is as smart as a man who has never met you, to be able to decipher your queries?
Or elsewhile.
They say 'Computers are only as smart as the man who built them'. It has taken me a good 12 months to be able to decipher your posts with minimal dictionary references (though I still have it on-hand at all times), so how, then, do you expect a machine which is as smart as a man who has never met you, to be able to decipher your queries?
24th Jun 2010
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I do not query a machine.
I query you.
I query you.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
" No luck with Google."
You type keyword.
Google queries googlebase (database for google, I invented another something!)
Google provide your with query results.
You type keyword.
Google queries googlebase (database for google, I invented another something!)
Google provide your with query results.
NexS
24th Jun 2010
Into Wolfram Alpha, and guess where it referred me to?
Google.
Google.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
Your query was to a machine primarily.
Then secondarily to us.
What were you expecting to return from Google?
Then secondarily to us.
What were you expecting to return from Google?
NexS
24th Jun 2010
Programmed with algorithms devised by whom?
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
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NexS
24th Jun 2010
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it is all a conspiracy.
see, Google is the mastermind behind all this, Google got their night minions to steal the manual, so that you couldn't use that. Google then beat up wolfram, till it agreed to help. after that Google and Wolfram wailed on the Library of Congress till it agreed not to say anything.
the solution you say? First you have to go to the GDIP (Google Dome of Incomprehensible Pain) and defeat a level 25 minion, once you have done that , they will give you back your manual.
the solution you say? First you have to go to the GDIP (Google Dome of Incomprehensible Pain) and defeat a level 25 minion, once you have done that , they will give you back your manual.
24th Jun 2010
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I like mine rare. I avoid freezing my minions, I think it makes them tough. Too, minions should not be allowed to sauce.

etu
etu
boxfiddler
24th Jun 2010
You have seen it?
You don't get no thumb for mere information leading to the arrest and conviction of same.
Produce it.
You don't get no thumb for mere information leading to the arrest and conviction of same.
Produce it.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
Is HERE
NexS
24th Jun 2010
Is one of Google algorithms.
The Manual is, Algorithm of the Almighty.
None less will do.
The Manual is, Algorithm of the Almighty.
None less will do.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
my level of spiritual comprehension, that is.
Sounds too much like psychology to me.
Sounds too much like psychology to me.
NexS
24th Jun 2010
Which is me, since I am, that the algorithm is digital -- you can do it on your fingers.
No psycho-drivel necessary, specially the kind derived in university studies of nineteen-year-olds.
No psycho-drivel necessary, specially the kind derived in university studies of nineteen-year-olds.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
That particular manual is exactly where Oh Smeg told you. What he didn't tell you is the sub-basement is the one between your ears.
LocoLobo
25th Jun 2010
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I thought the answer was ...
42
24th Jun 2010
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By 21.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
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Please tell me that you didn't
Google Google did you?
If you did I have it on good authority that you will break the Internet. That could be exactly what your problem here is.
Col
If you did I have it on good authority that you will break the Internet. That could be exactly what your problem here is.
Col
24th Jun 2010
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You are altogether too wise.
That is exactly what I do. Only, it ain't Google.
That is exactly what I do. Only, it ain't Google.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
Close enough.
santeewelding
24th Jun 2010
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RTFM? I have this one for you....
http://www.rtfm.com/
It might be just what you are looking for.
Though if your internet is not working it is not much of a help.
It might be just what you are looking for.
Though if your internet is not working it is not much of a help.
25th Jun 2010
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Crawl, walk, run.
Before asking, "How?", start with, "What?"
25th Jun 2010
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Is the transitive form of the question. "How" is the intransitive.
The transitive has more answers than you can shake a stick at. The intransitive -- none.
The transitive has more answers than you can shake a stick at. The intransitive -- none.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
"Fine, thanks. And you?"
CharlieSpencer_Palmetto
25th Jun 2010
With "fine" you bring an "outside" standard.
I have realized in my thinking that: how I am holds for all that is, meaning there's no going outside for an answer -- not for me; not for you; not for anyone.
I have realized in my thinking that: how I am holds for all that is, meaning there's no going outside for an answer -- not for me; not for you; not for anyone.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
Reflexives, automatives, passives.
That you are - you are, and being you, you being, is how you are being.
That you are - you are, and being you, you being, is how you are being.
AnsuGisalas
5th Jul 2010
I think you are the only one, in all my time here, who has picked up on it, my having mentioned the intransitive more than once.
I will think on it, as I did before my last to you, before crafting and responding.
I will think on it, as I did before my last to you, before crafting and responding.
santeewelding
5th Jul 2010
While you're welcome to think that way Santee maybe there is another alternative that no one else has mentioned this previously. Like
You don't need any engorgement to continue your wicked ways.
Col
You don't need any engorgement to continue your wicked ways.
Col
OH Smeg
6th Jul 2010
Of having learned finnish.
Now, finnish doesn't use different markings for automatives, reflectives and passives, but the learner at some point will have to face the differences in meaning, if they get that far.
Automative covers the meaning of the formally active verb "come" in the example "water kept coming through the hole in the hull". There's no placement of blame, for one, no intent on the part of the water.
Reflexive covers both "run"-type meanings ("See jack run") and "itself"-types ("the deadly ouroborous serpent buries itself in the loose sand"). There is intent on the part of the one taking action.
Passives of the finnish type don't usually exist in english as independent verbs - instead, they're the intransitive subset of an otherwise transitive verb's usages.
Like "broke", in "he was about to tell me whom he suspected, when the connection broke".
This is different from the normal english passive "the connection was broken" which (in this case) implies a background intentional activity (someone broke it).
An unnamed perpetrator is not always the case, as in "He was killed in an car-accident" which differs from "He was killed in a knife-fight" which differs from "He was killed by his wife"... the difference is in terms of accusation.
etu+boss
Now, finnish doesn't use different markings for automatives, reflectives and passives, but the learner at some point will have to face the differences in meaning, if they get that far.
Automative covers the meaning of the formally active verb "come" in the example "water kept coming through the hole in the hull". There's no placement of blame, for one, no intent on the part of the water.
Reflexive covers both "run"-type meanings ("See jack run") and "itself"-types ("the deadly ouroborous serpent buries itself in the loose sand"). There is intent on the part of the one taking action.
Passives of the finnish type don't usually exist in english as independent verbs - instead, they're the intransitive subset of an otherwise transitive verb's usages.
Like "broke", in "he was about to tell me whom he suspected, when the connection broke".
This is different from the normal english passive "the connection was broken" which (in this case) implies a background intentional activity (someone broke it).
An unnamed perpetrator is not always the case, as in "He was killed in an car-accident" which differs from "He was killed in a knife-fight" which differs from "He was killed by his wife"... the difference is in terms of accusation.
etu+boss
AnsuGisalas
6th Jul 2010
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Obviously,
evaluate the wave function of the Universe and there you are.
25th Jun 2010
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Doesn't hack it. Take you and your statement, for example. Not even the Indian dieties could figure your ass out.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
An Indian diety is to a westindian as a diet coke is to waste coke gas. And only a deity can sort that mess out.
How it is that F(u)=B(i)M?
Begin from what it is that your I is not. It gives you a bigger field, less subjective uncertainty. Try to see how it is that your I is not; the patterns of it's unbeing.
The pattern of it's being is the negative image of it's unbeing. How you unaren't is how you are.
Or did you mean how as in "how did I come to be?" That's a whole other barrel of fish.
How it is that F(u)=B(i)M?
Begin from what it is that your I is not. It gives you a bigger field, less subjective uncertainty. Try to see how it is that your I is not; the patterns of it's unbeing.
The pattern of it's being is the negative image of it's unbeing. How you unaren't is how you are.
Or did you mean how as in "how did I come to be?" That's a whole other barrel of fish.
AnsuGisalas
3rd Jul 2010
How I am not is unavailable. There is no "field". There are no "patterns".
If I insist to think at my outset with only two possibilities -- being and/or not -- I do so with tools of being. Tools of nonbeing, i.e., your "patterns", are unavailable to me.
Being is it.
Which goes to your question, "how did I come to be?" Hark to how I put Totality: there being no outside, I can't "come" to it.
These considerations are, you might say, initial conditions to my thinking. Unless my thinking is substandard, the conditions of totality also constrain your thinking. More pointedly, they constrain speech.
Not in your case, though. And not in the case of so many others here who broach the matter with certainty that is not, theists and atheists alike.
No thumb for you.
If I insist to think at my outset with only two possibilities -- being and/or not -- I do so with tools of being. Tools of nonbeing, i.e., your "patterns", are unavailable to me.
Being is it.
Which goes to your question, "how did I come to be?" Hark to how I put Totality: there being no outside, I can't "come" to it.
These considerations are, you might say, initial conditions to my thinking. Unless my thinking is substandard, the conditions of totality also constrain your thinking. More pointedly, they constrain speech.
Not in your case, though. And not in the case of so many others here who broach the matter with certainty that is not, theists and atheists alike.
No thumb for you.
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
I am
Totally Confused after reading that drivel above Santee.
And no I'm not going back to reread it to understand it My Head Hurts.
Col
Totally Confused after reading that drivel above Santee.
And no I'm not going back to reread it to understand it My Head Hurts.
Col
OH Smeg
4th Jul 2010
I go unrecognized in my own time.
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
When you are confronted head-on, which, I confess to doing, confronted with, "drivel".
Don't like drivel, myself.
Get that, Col, and you and I, we get along just fine.
Jocularity, however, I like. You are a past master with jocularity. Most of the time.
Don't like drivel, myself.
Get that, Col, and you and I, we get along just fine.
Jocularity, however, I like. You are a past master with jocularity. Most of the time.
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
diverts the senses that intuitive mind may process uninhibited.
boxfiddler
4th Jul 2010
To knock Colin's mind off course, to meander aimlessly in orbit, along with other debris.
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
that Col is old enough he gets to do what he wants.
boxfiddler
4th Jul 2010
To land in fighting stance, after having said to self, "Oh, shilt: how do I manage this one?!
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
His forte.
boxfiddler
4th Jul 2010
That's right.
(looks about)
There is more to Hal than meets the eye.
(looks about)
There is more to Hal than meets the eye.
santeewelding
4th Jul 2010
What you see is all a Illusion or if you prefer technical terms a Holographic Projection.
Oh and that hissing that you hear is the airlock behind what you consider to be a solid wall opening.
Col
Oh and that hissing that you hear is the airlock behind what you consider to be a solid wall opening.
Col
OH Smeg
5th Jul 2010
niggles... These things keep me awake at night. *yawns*
boxfiddler
4th Jul 2010
I understand now, how you are forever.
And, yes, I see nothing breakable in your total cosmology.
Or do I understand?
Everything is forever, always was, always will be. Is that the path?
My question was, which do you ask:
how it is - that you are?
or
how it is, that you are?
The first is difficult. The second has many answers, one of which is "mysterious", another "ineffable".
And, yes, I see nothing breakable in your total cosmology.
Or do I understand?
Everything is forever, always was, always will be. Is that the path?
My question was, which do you ask:
how it is - that you are?
or
how it is, that you are?
The first is difficult. The second has many answers, one of which is "mysterious", another "ineffable".
AnsuGisalas
5th Jul 2010
is if "dieties" was some sort of pun on the size of my ass. Not that I have such, being English.
neilb@...
6th Jul 2010
For once I made it first on that one 
How about a diety coke?
How about a diety coke?
AnsuGisalas
6th Jul 2010
I was reading the post in order, replied straight away and then read your post.
neilb@...
6th Jul 2010
too.
Makes for many instances of me sounding like a copycat, at least to myself. Aggravating.
Makes for many instances of me sounding like a copycat, at least to myself. Aggravating.
AnsuGisalas
6th Jul 2010
that I WOULD have thought of it before anybody else. Keeps my ego firmly intact.
neilb@...
6th Jul 2010
Only now do I see it. I thought Ansu had gone psychoactive, again.
I'll leave it. You both would look psychoactive if I changed it.
I'll leave it. You both would look psychoactive if I changed it.
santeewelding
6th Jul 2010
Rescription is fultile.
neilb@...
6th Jul 2010
"had gone" and "look"?
To affect the psyche, is that not the point?
Psychedelic on the other hand, that's to be avoided when possible.
Surreal is better.
To affect the psyche, is that not the point?
Psychedelic on the other hand, that's to be avoided when possible.
Surreal is better.
AnsuGisalas
6th Jul 2010
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How is it that I am......Poem
How is it that I am: yet what I am none cares or knows,
My friends forsake me like a memory lost;
How is it that I am the self-consumer of my woes,
They rise and vanish in oblivious host,
Like shades in love and death's oblivion lost;
And yet how is it that I am! and live with shadows tost
Into the nothingness of scorn and noise,
Into the living sea of waking dreams,
Where there is neither sense of life nor joys,
But the vast shipwreck of my life's esteems;
And e'en the dearest--that I loved the best--
Are strange--nay, rather stranger than the rest.
How is it that I long for scenes where man has never trod;
A place where woman never smil'd or wept;
There to abide with my creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept:
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie;
The grass below--above the vaulted sky.
My friends forsake me like a memory lost;
How is it that I am the self-consumer of my woes,
They rise and vanish in oblivious host,
Like shades in love and death's oblivion lost;
And yet how is it that I am! and live with shadows tost
Into the nothingness of scorn and noise,
Into the living sea of waking dreams,
Where there is neither sense of life nor joys,
But the vast shipwreck of my life's esteems;
And e'en the dearest--that I loved the best--
Are strange--nay, rather stranger than the rest.
How is it that I long for scenes where man has never trod;
A place where woman never smil'd or wept;
There to abide with my creator, God,
And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept:
Untroubling and untroubled where I lie;
The grass below--above the vaulted sky.
25th Jun 2010
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It's my first time seeing, How is it that I am, in print.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
Poor guy spent most of his time in the local insane asylum where he wrote quite a lot of his poetry. Not sure about this particular poem, though.
neilb@...
25th Jun 2010
John Clare
on the afterlife
Is there another world for this frail dust
To warm with life and be itself again?
Something about me daily speaks there must,
And why should instinct nourish hopes in vain?
'Tis nature's prophesy that such will be,
And everything seems struggling to explain
The close sealed volume of its mystery.
Time wandering onward keeps its usual pace
As seeming anxious of eternity,
To meet that calm and find a resting place.
E'en the small violet feels a future power
And waits each year renewing blooms to bring,
And surely man is no inferior flower
To die unworthy of a second spring?
on the afterlife
Is there another world for this frail dust
To warm with life and be itself again?
Something about me daily speaks there must,
And why should instinct nourish hopes in vain?
'Tis nature's prophesy that such will be,
And everything seems struggling to explain
The close sealed volume of its mystery.
Time wandering onward keeps its usual pace
As seeming anxious of eternity,
To meet that calm and find a resting place.
E'en the small violet feels a future power
And waits each year renewing blooms to bring,
And surely man is no inferior flower
To die unworthy of a second spring?
neilb@...
25th Jun 2010
"Outside", and futile. Makes for some of the best damned reading in poetry and literature, though.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
It took some digging.
Actually it is really "I am", but i added your "How is it that i am" on to it. It gives it a better tone to the poem i thought.
Hoped you liked it.
Actually it is really "I am", but i added your "How is it that i am" on to it. It gives it a better tone to the poem i thought.
Hoped you liked it.
Peconet Tietokoneet
25th Jun 2010
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who says you are?
not i
25th Jun 2010
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Was transitive.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
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You are
who is.
Comparable to statements issued by the Abrahamic God, Popeye, and Descartes.
Comparable to statements issued by the Abrahamic God, Popeye, and Descartes.
25th Jun 2010
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I'm a 'who', too.
boxfiddler
25th Jun 2010
And Horton hears you, too.
Which is why you aren't going to get a 1500 word off-topic response from the wrong side of the "bi-cameral mind".
Which is why you aren't going to get a 1500 word off-topic response from the wrong side of the "bi-cameral mind".
seanferd
25th Jun 2010
From the back and forth here -- including your last rabbinate -- that I, like anyone, can only have gotten the "be" and "am" and "is" by means of temporary scaffolding.
That scaffolding: "not", as in nonexistence.
If you are anything like me, you are incapable of arguing for or demonstrating nonexistence. Doing so would mean you can point to an edge of nothing, or compare one part of nothing to another part, saying, "See -- see the difference?"
I can't.
So, tongue in cheek, I appose non-being to being, which yields being, then abandon the apposition, which scaffolding never "was" in the first place.
Leaves, is.
How many do you suppose go about, still, tongue planted firmly in cheek? How many will not to contemplate the terribly inconceivable alternative?
A lot, I think. Note the transitive, like your own.
That scaffolding: "not", as in nonexistence.
If you are anything like me, you are incapable of arguing for or demonstrating nonexistence. Doing so would mean you can point to an edge of nothing, or compare one part of nothing to another part, saying, "See -- see the difference?"
I can't.
So, tongue in cheek, I appose non-being to being, which yields being, then abandon the apposition, which scaffolding never "was" in the first place.
Leaves, is.
How many do you suppose go about, still, tongue planted firmly in cheek? How many will not to contemplate the terribly inconceivable alternative?
A lot, I think. Note the transitive, like your own.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
And no imaginary numbers. (I say imaginary in the non-mathematical sense. And as we know, mathematical imaginary numbers are quite real.)
Absolute value of non-existence is existence. I think it is appropriate to live there.
Absolute value of non-existence is existence. I think it is appropriate to live there.
seanferd
25th Jun 2010
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Your mum and dad were... errr... careless. That's why & how you are.
Humanity shouldn't expect too much from Google lest it could fall into the same phylosophical trap that plunged it into the dark ages: Sholastics.
You should always be aware that paper does not blush, and neither does computer screen. Let alone TV screen.
You should always be aware that paper does not blush, and neither does computer screen. Let alone TV screen.
25th Jun 2010
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Noted and appreciated. "Blush". I got to remember that.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
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I may have an inkling into how it is that I am. Dunno.
How is it that you are? You could be a figment of my imagination for all I know.
To prove that you're not, a large quantity of hundred dollar bills, delivered to our mailbox, from you, could convince me.
Barring that? Figment.
To prove that you're not, a large quantity of hundred dollar bills, delivered to our mailbox, from you, could convince me.
Barring that? Figment.
25th Jun 2010
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They were there, escorting the cash truck, but you weren't home, so they left.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
That's the kind of response a figment of my imagination would make.
*Dons rubber Viking helmet. Makes pickle yodel.*
*Dons rubber Viking helmet. Makes pickle yodel.*
Ron K.
25th Jun 2010
Never, ever use the Secret Code in public.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
Not even close. Sorry.
Ron K.
25th Jun 2010
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How is it that we all are?
Isn't that the greatest question ever?
Ours not to reason why, ours but to do and die.
I would RTFM, but I don't have my glasses on.
AV
Ours not to reason why, ours but to do and die.
I would RTFM, but I don't have my glasses on.
AV
25th Jun 2010
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Like my glasses when I'm looking for them, might be right where it is.
Greatest question ever: you got that right.
Greatest question ever: you got that right.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
We're here, that's enough,(sometimes too much), but, cleaning up my language considerably-keeping it simple-why?
Ron K.
25th Jun 2010
How do you know that you know, before you ask who, what, where, when, and why.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
One way or another. Can't fool me.
I ask my personal imaginary, omnipotent being the serious questions. My god mostly just sits around, drinking beer,(good beer) fishing, so I don't get much for answers.
I ask my personal imaginary, omnipotent being the serious questions. My god mostly just sits around, drinking beer,(good beer) fishing, so I don't get much for answers.
Ron K.
25th Jun 2010
No need to ask anyone. I trust my gut instincts.
AV
AV
AV .
26th Jun 2010
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How is it that I AM?
I guess would be metaphysics.
but if you change it around,
I } U I (meaning you, Santee) is subset of U (not you but the Universe)
so the bigger question would be:
why is the UNiverse here?
I made up a term for study of this question, 'Astrometaphysics'
I recall being in a discussion like this ages ago with BP (Black Panther)
but if you change it around,
I } U I (meaning you, Santee) is subset of U (not you but the Universe)
so the bigger question would be:
why is the UNiverse here?
I made up a term for study of this question, 'Astrometaphysics'
I recall being in a discussion like this ages ago with BP (Black Panther)
Updated - 25th Jun 2010
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Now, keep moving them until arises the fatal contradiction. Further, don't put up with any shilt from yourself.
santeewelding
25th Jun 2010
my horror-scope for the day
Dr Dij
26th Jun 2010
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I don't know
how it is that we are. But if I'm not, neither are you.
26th Jun 2010
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Maybe you ARE NOT!
and I am just IMAGINING YOU!!
but then the question would still be there, how is it that I am (being me instead of U)
where U is Universe as in my previous post but symbolic of You, which is now me, ok I just confused myself, and possibly you (not U)
but then the question would still be there, how is it that I am (being me instead of U)
where U is Universe as in my previous post but symbolic of You, which is now me, ok I just confused myself, and possibly you (not U)
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