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jolinger4
Ok here it is. I just bought a Computer from a business that went out of business. The 1st time I turned it on windows loaded. Its winxp professional. I tried to load Mozilla I hate IE, and I got a error need administrator password. So I went in to User setting and tried to remove or change the admin password but that is password protected. so I restarted and now the windows login comes up with a weird User name and a blank password.I have no Idea what the password is. I tried to restart in safe mode to fix that but now im am stuck at the log on to windows screen. So now I cannot get into the OS to do anything. I did not get a copy of XP with it. And I lost my copy for my other computer. So I just can reload it. Hope that makes sense any tip would be appericated
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    CharlieSpencer

    Call the manufacturer. Give them the model number and serial number and they'll send you system disks (including operating system) for a nominal shipping charge.

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    jolinger4

    Ok I called dell to get the cd sent to me but my original computer was given to me by my company as a award. Its listed under them not in my name. so no luck there. Is there some software to load to figure out what the password is or to completly remove the administrator password?

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    w2ktechman

    of the company that gave the system to you then.

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    w2ktechman

    Please read my previous message first. This is a crack into a computer and its files and folders. However it is not meant to get into protected files (such as encrypted (see next message), or alternate installed SW (3rd party).
    This is only intended as a guide. Please check out the laws in your area before attempting to crack into someone elses sysem. I cannot stress this enough. Continue at your own risk!!! Dont forget, it is not too late to back out and reconsider (best option)!

    Ok, Cracking a Win 2k/XP administrator PW and name (and enabling the account if disabled). This will gie you full access to the system with unlimited permissions. If you are told that you do not have permissions, you can GRANT YOURSELF permissions, as this is a SUPER USER account.

    First, you will need some HW and basic tech skills.
    1. Antistatic wrist strap
    2. Iron or Steel rod 3/4 to 1 foot long and 1/2 to 3/4 Inches round.
    3. Electrically cunductive gel
    4. A new spare HDD (within the last 3 years)
    5. A keyboard manufactured after 1997
    6. A grounding wire -- up to 5 feet
    7. A set of screwdrivers (small) with both philips, flat head, and torx tips (or 3 small screwdriver sets)
    8. Small hammer (not required bu useful)

    Ok, before you begin, put on the antistatic wrist strap. I cannot stress this enough. Follow its instructions to 'ground' yourself. But later this will not be enough, you will use the grounding wire for the more intense part.

    Get your screwdrivers out, along with the spare HDD.
    open up the HDD. Note there will be screws under he labels. you can press down across the label to find the screw holes.
    You need to pull out PLATTER 1 (top) from the HDD, and the magnets need to be removed from this drive.
    Keep these handy.

    Start the computer, but do not attempt to log on. Press Ctrl -- Alt -- Del. Type in any random set of letters and/or numbers (not special characters though). You MUST do 13 characters though, this is the key. There is a 'special' 'hidden' 14th character that you will need to access.
    Use a small flat head screwdriver in between the P and O keys (funny story, they added it here for Override Password -- see the humor?). They added a special chip under/beween these keys on all keyboards manufactured after 1997. This is a little known fact and very hard to obtain info (I can ge into big trouble for posing it if they find out who I am). If you are unsure about your keyboard age, look underneath it. I should have a manufactured date on a sticker. If you cannot tell, go get another keyboard.
    Back on point, use the screwdriver to 'pop' the chip. If you did not hear a pop, try again. It is a small chip that is directly under and between the O and P keys. I prefer using a small hammer with not oo much force here, but not using one should work fine.
    If you had 13 numbers and letters, you should see a 14th one flash quickly, but it is so quick that I rarely see it myself. The boot sequence may hang here. his is what should happen. Ok, power off the system.

    Open the case and unplug the HDD (boot drive if multiples exist). Then remove the drive, taking precaution against damage.

    Now with the boot HDD in one hand, grab the 1st platter from the spare drive. Place the platter underneath the boot drive (by the board and chipset). On the top, use BOTH magnets in a clockwise motion on the top of the boot drive. You must make at least 4 complete passes, but 6 is better. Since Win was told to 'unlock' the password (via boot characters above), it is free to replicate on all platters and 'jump tracks'. That is why we need the platter underneath. And being the first platter means that it is the best possible platter to install it on.
    Now put he second HDD back together being careful not to damage it. This should be put back into your machine to keep the PW until later, but it is not needed right now.

    Ok, now is the tough part. We need to unlock the ADMIN account and reset it to administrator (if it was changed and disabled). To do this, on the boot drive look for where the platters all meet. There should be a screw or nut holding them all together. You need to 'ding or dent' very LIGHTLY on the top of the HDD case, away from the magnets and HDD heads. Some people like to put it at 180 degree from the arm for the heads. I should be visually dented, bu not interfere with the HDD operation.

    Now the HDD and Windows need o both be synchronized with this new PW mess that we created. The PW is probably floating around randomly on several platters. So install the boot drive back into the computer. Now get the small flat head screwdriver ready.
    Boot the computer (it may make a bit more noise than usual, but do not worry.
    OK, for a few seconds this should display on the screen "BIOS Revision" Look closely at the "S" in BIOS. Looks a bit off or not normal doesnt it (requires really close investigation, sometimes it has been reported that someone has to look through several boots to notice it). Ok, this S is a keyword for "Synchronise" after the PW unlocking. This gets triggered in the BIOS whenever the O and P keys were tampered with.
    Anyway, use the plathead screwdriver on the S on the monitor. To get it right, you may need to try several times. I suggest a couple of reboots to get setup properly.
    If this is an older monitor (CRT) you may want a small hammer to aid.
    Without too much force, you want to 'punch' the "S" in BIOS out. Quicly turn off the computer.

    Now for the final preperation before you obtain full access to the system You will need a good ground and to get out he grounding wire. Tie it to the computer case if another good ground is not close by. Bare about 1/3 feet of the other end and tie it around your ankle. USe the electrically conductive gel all around your hands and ankle (where the grounding wire is attached).

    This step may take several tries, but it will be well worth it when done properly.

    Turn the system on and very quickly plunge the metal rod into the power supply of the compuer. A small hammer to help may be needed. BUT be careful as not to plunge it too far, we are looking to get a 'spike' not destroy the computer.
    WARNING: Do NOT wear gloves!!! We need the extra grounding to do this properly, or else it may destroy the computer and put you at risk!
    If you did not feel a slight jolt (very slight), try again with a litle more force.

    Ok, when done properly, clean up. now restart the computer. At logon enter the username ADMINISTRATOR and for the PW type "P_W_R_E_C_O_V_E_R" and press enter. Yes, those are underscores.

    You now have full access to the system

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    demosthanese

    hilarious. at first i was like "oh hes gonna flash the bios, but that's not gonna help anything". so i kept reading and was actually loling. thanks for the laughs

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    CharlieSpencer

    We usually don't provide a very warm reception to posts like yours. Asking to crack passwords on your first post is like showing up at your first AA meeting and asking if anybody knows how to make a Long Island Ice Tea. It doesn't present the best possible image of yourself.

    If your company provided the computer, the only way it would be registered in their name is if the company opened it and set it up for you. Contact the company IT department and ask them for the password.

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    jolinger4

    Ok I get it, Just thought id ask. Im a beer man myself.

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    Big Ole Jack

    have been in situations where a person I knew bought an old or used computer from an auction or liquidation sale and obtaining the password or contacting the former IT guys of the now defunct company was like trying to find a 2MB MFM hard drive (if you recall those back in the day) in today's day and age...totally nonexistent and virtually impossible to track down. His best option would be to to just get a new copy of the OS media and **** it away by install a fresh copy, considering he is locked out of the current installation of the OS and most likely it's useless anyway.

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    CharlieSpencer

    While one came from a defunct company, he says his employer gave him the other as a gift. I can't believe his IT department configured it with a p/w, but if they did they should be able to help him. I also find it hard to believe the manufacturer cares who the system is registered to. They give away system rebuild CDs almost like they were AOL.

    jolinger4, I'm apologize if you're sincere, but this smells like a can of tuna cat food. Try your friendly neighborhood Mom-and-Pop computer shop for assistance. You didn't pay much for one machine and nothing for the other, so the $75 or $100 investment with them will be worth it.

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    jolinger4

    There has got to be something out there software wise that would work. I know people have it. But I just want to know what is safe. If you dont want all the rejects getting there hands on it ill give you my-email and you can send me the link. Please

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    Big Ole Jack

    ERD Commander was one such product available for system lockouts and other disaster recovery scenarios, but the company that originally made it, Winternals, was acquired by Microsoft. Doing a search for the product redirect you to Microsoft's site, but MS is claiming that they are not ready to resell it yet because they have yet to determine how they will market and sell the product. If you can find and buy a legal licensed copy of ERD Commander 2005, then you're good to go, but by no means are we endorsing breaking into protected systems or obtaining pirated copies of commercial software for the purpose of obtaining access to protected systems.

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    jolinger4

    I just want to say, I know that password thing is a hard to give out to anyone. And thats cool, but what I wanted to say is thanks, I have been to a couple boards and none get the response this one does. Im gonna keep it for im sure for other question, when I get that new cpu up. Im gonna gut my old one a build a new one myself im sure Ill have a lot of questions.

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    CharlieSpencer

    Call the manufacturer. Give them the model number and serial number and they'll send you system disks (including operating system) for a nominal shipping charge.

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    jolinger4

    Ok I called dell to get the cd sent to me but my original computer was given to me by my company as a award. Its listed under them not in my name. so no luck there. Is there some software to load to figure out what the password is or to completly remove the administrator password?

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    w2ktechman

    of the company that gave the system to you then.

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    w2ktechman

    Please read my previous message first. This is a crack into a computer and its files and folders. However it is not meant to get into protected files (such as encrypted (see next message), or alternate installed SW (3rd party).
    This is only intended as a guide. Please check out the laws in your area before attempting to crack into someone elses sysem. I cannot stress this enough. Continue at your own risk!!! Dont forget, it is not too late to back out and reconsider (best option)!

    Ok, Cracking a Win 2k/XP administrator PW and name (and enabling the account if disabled). This will gie you full access to the system with unlimited permissions. If you are told that you do not have permissions, you can GRANT YOURSELF permissions, as this is a SUPER USER account.

    First, you will need some HW and basic tech skills.
    1. Antistatic wrist strap
    2. Iron or Steel rod 3/4 to 1 foot long and 1/2 to 3/4 Inches round.
    3. Electrically cunductive gel
    4. A new spare HDD (within the last 3 years)
    5. A keyboard manufactured after 1997
    6. A grounding wire -- up to 5 feet
    7. A set of screwdrivers (small) with both philips, flat head, and torx tips (or 3 small screwdriver sets)
    8. Small hammer (not required bu useful)

    Ok, before you begin, put on the antistatic wrist strap. I cannot stress this enough. Follow its instructions to 'ground' yourself. But later this will not be enough, you will use the grounding wire for the more intense part.

    Get your screwdrivers out, along with the spare HDD.
    open up the HDD. Note there will be screws under he labels. you can press down across the label to find the screw holes.
    You need to pull out PLATTER 1 (top) from the HDD, and the magnets need to be removed from this drive.
    Keep these handy.

    Start the computer, but do not attempt to log on. Press Ctrl -- Alt -- Del. Type in any random set of letters and/or numbers (not special characters though). You MUST do 13 characters though, this is the key. There is a 'special' 'hidden' 14th character that you will need to access.
    Use a small flat head screwdriver in between the P and O keys (funny story, they added it here for Override Password -- see the humor?). They added a special chip under/beween these keys on all keyboards manufactured after 1997. This is a little known fact and very hard to obtain info (I can ge into big trouble for posing it if they find out who I am). If you are unsure about your keyboard age, look underneath it. I should have a manufactured date on a sticker. If you cannot tell, go get another keyboard.
    Back on point, use the screwdriver to 'pop' the chip. If you did not hear a pop, try again. It is a small chip that is directly under and between the O and P keys. I prefer using a small hammer with not oo much force here, but not using one should work fine.
    If you had 13 numbers and letters, you should see a 14th one flash quickly, but it is so quick that I rarely see it myself. The boot sequence may hang here. his is what should happen. Ok, power off the system.

    Open the case and unplug the HDD (boot drive if multiples exist). Then remove the drive, taking precaution against damage.

    Now with the boot HDD in one hand, grab the 1st platter from the spare drive. Place the platter underneath the boot drive (by the board and chipset). On the top, use BOTH magnets in a clockwise motion on the top of the boot drive. You must make at least 4 complete passes, but 6 is better. Since Win was told to 'unlock' the password (via boot characters above), it is free to replicate on all platters and 'jump tracks'. That is why we need the platter underneath. And being the first platter means that it is the best possible platter to install it on.
    Now put he second HDD back together being careful not to damage it. This should be put back into your machine to keep the PW until later, but it is not needed right now.

    Ok, now is the tough part. We need to unlock the ADMIN account and reset it to administrator (if it was changed and disabled). To do this, on the boot drive look for where the platters all meet. There should be a screw or nut holding them all together. You need to 'ding or dent' very LIGHTLY on the top of the HDD case, away from the magnets and HDD heads. Some people like to put it at 180 degree from the arm for the heads. I should be visually dented, bu not interfere with the HDD operation.

    Now the HDD and Windows need o both be synchronized with this new PW mess that we created. The PW is probably floating around randomly on several platters. So install the boot drive back into the computer. Now get the small flat head screwdriver ready.
    Boot the computer (it may make a bit more noise than usual, but do not worry.
    OK, for a few seconds this should display on the screen "BIOS Revision" Look closely at the "S" in BIOS. Looks a bit off or not normal doesnt it (requires really close investigation, sometimes it has been reported that someone has to look through several boots to notice it). Ok, this S is a keyword for "Synchronise" after the PW unlocking. This gets triggered in the BIOS whenever the O and P keys were tampered with.
    Anyway, use the plathead screwdriver on the S on the monitor. To get it right, you may need to try several times. I suggest a couple of reboots to get setup properly.
    If this is an older monitor (CRT) you may want a small hammer to aid.
    Without too much force, you want to 'punch' the "S" in BIOS out. Quicly turn off the computer.

    Now for the final preperation before you obtain full access to the system You will need a good ground and to get out he grounding wire. Tie it to the computer case if another good ground is not close by. Bare about 1/3 feet of the other end and tie it around your ankle. USe the electrically conductive gel all around your hands and ankle (where the grounding wire is attached).

    This step may take several tries, but it will be well worth it when done properly.

    Turn the system on and very quickly plunge the metal rod into the power supply of the compuer. A small hammer to help may be needed. BUT be careful as not to plunge it too far, we are looking to get a 'spike' not destroy the computer.
    WARNING: Do NOT wear gloves!!! We need the extra grounding to do this properly, or else it may destroy the computer and put you at risk!
    If you did not feel a slight jolt (very slight), try again with a litle more force.

    Ok, when done properly, clean up. now restart the computer. At logon enter the username ADMINISTRATOR and for the PW type "P_W_R_E_C_O_V_E_R" and press enter. Yes, those are underscores.

    You now have full access to the system

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    demosthanese

    hilarious. at first i was like "oh hes gonna flash the bios, but that's not gonna help anything". so i kept reading and was actually loling. thanks for the laughs

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    CharlieSpencer

    We usually don't provide a very warm reception to posts like yours. Asking to crack passwords on your first post is like showing up at your first AA meeting and asking if anybody knows how to make a Long Island Ice Tea. It doesn't present the best possible image of yourself.

    If your company provided the computer, the only way it would be registered in their name is if the company opened it and set it up for you. Contact the company IT department and ask them for the password.

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    jolinger4

    Ok I get it, Just thought id ask. Im a beer man myself.

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    Big Ole Jack

    have been in situations where a person I knew bought an old or used computer from an auction or liquidation sale and obtaining the password or contacting the former IT guys of the now defunct company was like trying to find a 2MB MFM hard drive (if you recall those back in the day) in today's day and age...totally nonexistent and virtually impossible to track down. His best option would be to to just get a new copy of the OS media and **** it away by install a fresh copy, considering he is locked out of the current installation of the OS and most likely it's useless anyway.

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    CharlieSpencer

    While one came from a defunct company, he says his employer gave him the other as a gift. I can't believe his IT department configured it with a p/w, but if they did they should be able to help him. I also find it hard to believe the manufacturer cares who the system is registered to. They give away system rebuild CDs almost like they were AOL.

    jolinger4, I'm apologize if you're sincere, but this smells like a can of tuna cat food. Try your friendly neighborhood Mom-and-Pop computer shop for assistance. You didn't pay much for one machine and nothing for the other, so the $75 or $100 investment with them will be worth it.

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    jolinger4

    There has got to be something out there software wise that would work. I know people have it. But I just want to know what is safe. If you dont want all the rejects getting there hands on it ill give you my-email and you can send me the link. Please

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    Big Ole Jack

    ERD Commander was one such product available for system lockouts and other disaster recovery scenarios, but the company that originally made it, Winternals, was acquired by Microsoft. Doing a search for the product redirect you to Microsoft's site, but MS is claiming that they are not ready to resell it yet because they have yet to determine how they will market and sell the product. If you can find and buy a legal licensed copy of ERD Commander 2005, then you're good to go, but by no means are we endorsing breaking into protected systems or obtaining pirated copies of commercial software for the purpose of obtaining access to protected systems.

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    jolinger4

    I just want to say, I know that password thing is a hard to give out to anyone. And thats cool, but what I wanted to say is thanks, I have been to a couple boards and none get the response this one does. Im gonna keep it for im sure for other question, when I get that new cpu up. Im gonna gut my old one a build a new one myself im sure Ill have a lot of questions.