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Computer not detecting IDE DVD-R drive or IDE HDD

By ldp_frog ·
I was installing a DvD-R drive into my computer when this occurred. I turned the computer on and it took an extremely long time to boot. It is not detecting anything IDE. I have 2 CD drives installed and one IDE harddrive (my main is SATA). These are not showing up in Windows or the bios. I've tried disconnecting the new DVD-R and putting the setup as it was but I'm still not getting any IDE drives.

Anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

Thanks, Matt

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Pins?

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to Computer not detecting ID ...

Nothing can be detected in Windows if the BIOS don't see it first.

Did you bend a pin in the plugs or plug a cable in backwards? Did you jumper something wrong (ie; master/slave)? Did you mistakenly plug all 3 devices into the same data cable and nothing goes to the motherboard controler? Did you plug in the power cords? If you have 3 IDE devices, you must have 2 data cables and two controlers to plug into on the motherboard. Each device must be jumpered according to which cable it's on. The cable with two devices will have a master and a slave. The cable with one device on it will be set as master. Or, sometimes they can all be set to cable select, depending on the cable you're using. But, that's a horse of a different color.

Try getting one device at a time to work. Make sure that device is jumpered as master and very carefully plug in the data cable to the device with the BLUE end connected to the motherboard. Don't force the plugs. Then, plug in the power cable to it. Boot up and see if the BIOS detects it. If it does, shut down and plug one more device in, jumpered as slave on the same data cable and a separate power cable. Do the BIOS see it?

Also, try another IDE cable remembering that one end is designated for being plugged into the motherboard. Usually, this end is blue.

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IDE DVD-R

by fdiaz693 In reply to Computer not detecting ID ...

OK HERE IS A LITLE BIT HARDER TO SAY BUT I AM PRETTY SURE WHAT IS...
TRY THIS ONE MAKE SURE CABLES ARE SECURELY CONNECTED THEN MAKE SURE ARE PIN 1RED DOT TOGETHER. POWER CABLES AND THEN DO THIS....
DVD-R SET AS A MASTER...YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT...OK
THEN SET THE OTHER CD DRIVE AS A SLAVE
THEN SET YOUR HHD DRIVE AS A CS CABLE SELECT
THAT CONFIGURATION IS BEHIND THE DRIVE BEZEL
NEXT TO IDE CABLE OK TRY THAT FOR SURE WILL WORK IF NOOT ILLBE BACK SOON

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When you return........

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to IDE DVD-R

Turn OFF the caps lock so we can read it. Typing in ALL CAPS is considered shouting.

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No kidding.

by Absolutely In reply to When you return........

Exactly right, in both messages.

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Close, but not quite

by ldp_frog In reply to IDE DVD-R

I discovered that for some reason my IDE HDD had NO jumper on it. Now, I can get the IDE HDD to run only if I have neither of the CD drives connected. If I connect either CD drive or both of them, nothing IDE runs. At least this way it's not something so vital as an HDD being lost, but having no CD/DVD drives is not nice =(.

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All is not lost

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to Close, but not quite

All is not lost. There is a way around it.

Your HDD must be the kind that is only used with a special "cable select" cable where the primary must be plugged into the end plug and the secondary must be plugged into the middle plug, the blue end going to the motherboard.

Short of having a special cable, do you have 2 IDE controlers on the motherboard? If so, plug the HDD into controler zero (0) and the two CD's into controler one (1). This isn't the ideal situation because it will slow communication between the two CD's. But, it's all you can do given the HDD drive that you have to use.

No matter what you do, it takes a 2nd data cable for the 2nd controler, if you have one.

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My bad description

by ldp_frog In reply to All is not lost

Sorry, I never specified that I have TWO IDE controllers. One of them is only running the HDD and the other one is running the DVD/CD drives. Regardless of what I jumper the HDD to, all IDE devices fail when I connect either of the CD drives. I tried jumpering the DVD to master and the CD to slave with the corresponding cables. I then tried jumpering the HDD to master and another time to CS, but with no luck.

I'm starting to wonder if the IDE controller controlling the CD drives is blown out :-/.

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Check BIOS

by ThumbsUp2 In reply to My bad description

Check the BIOS and see if the primary/secondary controlers are turned off (disabled). Set them all to AUTO. Then, test with just one device plugged into the secondary and jumpered as master.

To get into the BIOS depends on the system you have. But, entry is usually provided by pressing the DEL key, the F2 key, the F11 key or the F12 key during POST.

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