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Drive letters on USB Sticks

By jbaker1971 ·
I always point my Shortcuts to their Icons which I keep in a different folder because Temporary Internet Files gets emptied.
I want to put all my Shortcuts on my USB Drive and also my Icons folder too so that my shortcuts always show up as their Individual Icon instead of that annoying blue IE logo.
The problem is, if I point a Shortcut to an Icon on a removable drive, the path might be wrong when I plug it into a different PC.
How can I point my shortcuts to the Icon folder on the same drive and get it to work even if the Drive letter changes.
I have 2 Folders on the USB Drive; "SHORTCUTS"
"ICONS"
I tried pointing the shortcut to:

%SystemRoot%\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

But It Wont let me do it and says:
"Cannot find %SystemRoot%\ICONS\Favicon25.ico

and if I point a shortcut to the current USB drive letter:

G:\Icons\Favicon25.ico

The next PC I plug it into might assign my USB key with a different letter like E: or H:

Does anyone know how to get around this preferably without embedding the shortcut and Icon into an "EXE". Any help would be appreciated........a lot

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And when the USB drive goes to Silicon Heaven ?...

by OldER Mycroft In reply to Drive letters on USB Stic ...

Your entire digital empire grinds to a halt.

You may well also plug your USB drive into a machine that is infected with a virus, then transfer the virus back to your PC which can't operate without that USB drive.

You appear to have a misunderstanding of what an ICON is - it is only a graphical link to an executable file. In effect it is the first Shortcut - your 'Shortcut' is the second shortcut, pointing at the first one.

Where you got the idea from for storing them on a USB drive is beyond me - but eventually a USB drive WILL stop working and it'll take all your operating system with it.

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ICONS For Bookmarks

by jbaker1971 In reply to And when the USB drive go ...

Favicons are used in the Favourites list in IE. They are the individual icons for the actual URL's. You know , so you can easily distinguish them instead of them being blue IE logo's like in IE5.
I store my Favicons in a different folder to Temp Internet Files, 'cos it gets emptied and the Favicons get deleted too.
I just want to do this on my USB stick. Its not that its not possible, its the drive letters getting changed that messes with the paths to the Favicon.ico files. I think there is a way round it. As for my security, I've got it covered but thanks for your concern.

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The only way that I can even to begin to think this may work

by OH Smeg In reply to Drive letters on USB Stic ...

Is to go to Drive Management on every system that you plan to use this USB Thumb Drive on and set the Drive Letter of the USB Device to the same letter.

Even then I wouldn't expect this to be a reliable method of working and you will need to frequently copy the contents of the USB Drive to prevent Data Loss and Hardware Crashes when the Device Fails.

All USB Devices are expected to last a set number of hours depending on how well they where made originally so a $20.00 Device shouldn't last as well/long/whatever as a $300.00 device of the same capacity from a different maker. You will need at least 2 USB Thumb Drives per USB Device that you use and ideally more as 1 spare doesn't give you much room to move when things go wrong. Ideally you should always have 1 Unused Device Available no matter what happens though as you copy the Data to the Reserves you could also inadvertently be transferring Infections as well.

There are some programs designed to run from USB Devices which incorporate their Own Software and this gets installed each time they get connected to a new computer or at least one that doesn't have that Application and Version Number already installed on it. These are used as Password Managers or at least the only ones I have seen that work this way are Password Managers.

Col

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Hardware crashes? Infections?

by Glenn from Iowa In reply to The only way that I can e ...

Wow, I never knew USB drives were so diabolical! Obviously a USB drive has a much smaller MTBF than a hard drive, but, like USB drives, all hard drives are expected to last a set number of hours. My point: everything fails, which is why everything (critical, at least) needs to be backed up.

It makes sense to synchronize it to a hard drive, and/or possibly a 2nd USB drive, which can easily be done with tools such as Robocopy or SyncToy. I frequently use a USB drive for remote access to files, and if I make any changes to files remotely, I synchronize it with my hard drive at the earliest opportunity. Don't you?

Hardware Crashes? I can only see that if you were running the OS from the USB drive, and I'm not sure he is doing that. I suppose there is some risk, but I disagree with your forecast of Impending Doom. Like any technology, you have to Know Your Risk and how to mitigate it. If you feel that using a USB Device is Too Risky, then it's your choice to not use that technology.

As far as prices, I'd like to know where you get $300 USB sticks ("of the same capacity"), and why you don't just buy 15 of the $20 ones and synchronize them? :-)

Perhaps you meant $30 instead of $300, but one well-known (U.S.) online retailer has a sale on a SanDisk - Cruzer Micro 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive (which I consider to be a reputable brand) for USD$19.99. Prices are quickly dropping to dirt cheap for these devices.

Infections? Every removable media, from floppies to zip drives to USB drives to external hard drives have had this risk. It seems a little extreme to decry USB Drives because of this. Security experts advise that you should run a virus scan every time you attach removable media. Of course it's not foolproof, but nothing is. Mitigate risk, but keep a balance between usefulness and security.

I forget who said it, but this sage advice from the '90s still applies today: the only way to be 100% sure you won't get a virus is to disconnect the PC from all external connections, set it in a corner, and keep it unplugged.

Anyway, lighten up on USB drives. They have their place, and he needs to know the risks, but Using a USB Drive, even with their Own Software, will not cause The-End-Of-The-World-As-We-Know-It!

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What a load of uninformed, ill-educated TOSH !! - But ...

by OldER Mycroft In reply to Hardware crashes? Infecti ...

I'll leave it up to OH Smeg to deliver the coup de grace.

Put the tip of the sword between the shoulders mate, between the shoulders!

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NA OM it's not worth the effort replying to this Tosser

by OH Smeg In reply to What a load of uninformed ...

They are welcome to believe what they like. I simply can not be bothered even referring them to the 64 GIG Corsair Prices and compare those to some others around for a similar capacity. I'm sure that this one knows far more than me and is quite happy to run mission critical applications form a Unbacked up USB or any other device for that matter. :^0

Col

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I humbly apologize

by Glenn from Iowa In reply to NA OM it's not worth the ...

Old Mycroft and OH Smeg,

I must apologize; I didn't mean to be a tosser. I obviously am not aware of the rapport between you two, and simply thought the replies were a little harsh for such a post.

I do not claim to know more than anyone; in fact, I was not aware of the 64GB Corsair device. Nor did I claim to run mission critical apps from a flash drive (I do not and would not), and I thought I clearly advocated making copies of the data on such a drive.

I still maintain that one could not find two flash drives "with the same capacity" where one price differed by over 10x the other. And I thought bringing up hardware crashes and infections, especially with capital letters, was making a bigger case than was warranted.

However, I now believe I misunderstood the tone of your posts and humbly ask forgiveness for the tone of my reply.

-GFI

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I would say the same thing about running something

by OH Smeg In reply to I humbly apologize

Like this from any External Media but because it was only referring to USB Thumb Drives I didn't see any point in saying anything about other forms of External Media.

Even loosing the Humble USB Boot Drive that was sold a while ago by some makers has caused severe problems as it's not just a matter of coping the data to another one well it is but you don't use the Copy or Cut & Paste options but need to Clone the USB Device.

Way too many people give Solid State Devices too much credit for reliability and very few ever consider what happens when you loose something like what is asked for here which is a Mission Critical type thing. The entire idea of being able to move something like this between different computers and be usable makes it Mission Critical.

As fr finding different makers with similar capacities that is more or less correct but as many people just buy the Biggest they consider that a 64 GIG Corsair Thumb Drive is the same as the Biggest from another maker so you can be actually comparing a 8 GIG to a 64 GIG Device and from that Prospective it's well over 10X difference. Other people will just see a Thumb Drive and consider it a Thumb Drive as all thumb Drives are the same.

I had this with a Customer who tried to lift my 64 GIG Thumb Drive they thought they where saving themselves $20.00 by taking mine when it actually cost me $330.00 + GST wholesale. When I fronted them about it they claimed that I could buy one at the Post Office for under $20.00 so what was I complaining about. You see here it's all in the way different people look at things. Those not involved in the industry do not look at things the same way that we do just the same as I do not look at bits of Surgical Equipment with any interest.

The only real difference is that the Surgeon isn't anywhere near as likely to loose his equipment as we are.

You see I constantly say to my customers the computer is worth nothing in comparison to th Data Stored on the HDD. I can replace a computer within a few minutes but I can not replace one Bite of Data from a Stolen or Lost HDD. The bits of Plastic & Silicon have no real value to the customer but their Data is the Important and most time very expensive to replace thing on any Computer System. I once spent $56,000.00 getting a $65.00 HDD recovered in under 24 hours. It saved the company involved several million $ by preventing the Tax Man from Estimating their income & expenses so it was defiantly worth the cost of the recovery but not any Home Users that I know would even contemplate doing something like that. After all spending 56K to get Data off a $65.00 Drive is Insane you could buy 800 new HDD and still have money left over.

Col

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Ermm - you forgot something ...

by OldER Mycroft In reply to I would say the same thin ...

Our Corsair Voyagers have got a 10-year warranty.

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Don't Apologize

by jbaker1971 In reply to I humbly apologize

You were right. We're all gettin' far too over vigilant about security. Why can't we just enjoy our technology?

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