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By garymac12 ·
I am curious what you think about absolute accuracy of one's academic history on your resume.

My case is, I have completed all the coursework for my Masters degree but have not completed the thesis so I don't have the degree. I do not intend to complete the thesis, so how do I reflect it on my resume wanting it to show up but not wanting to be inaccurate too.

I realize the 15 second rule often applies where resumes that don't have certain key words are just dropped from consideration.

I am interested to hear your views on just listing a masters degree on the resume and then, later, telling prospective employers that it was not entirely completed (thesis never written).

If this is not a good idea, do you have suggestions on how to list it on a resume to be both accurate yet to still reflect you have done 98% of the Masters work.

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Resume

by Matt.Altman In reply to Education listings on one ...

First of all, does your University not have a choice of 9 hours vs. thesis? Meaning you can take an extra 3 classes and not do the thesis...

Second, do what I do. I have a few credits left to get my masters (yes thesis included). I put "currently working on Masters". You aren't lying about anything, plus it hits keywords when employers run searches.

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There has to be a latin term for 'did not complete thesis'

by robo_dev In reply to Resume

Masters Degree ex-posto thesorum?

or Masters Degree, Thesis-deplorum?

But seriously:

Have completed coursework for Masters Degree, thesis pending.

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Keyword confusion

by Oz_Media In reply to Resume

Again, keywords are complete shite.
YOu can also get a hgit by saying, "Don't have masters degree but am a keen learner."

500 of those in front of your resume and you may as well be invisible.

Don't play teh keyword game, recruiters and employers already know about the keyword companies and buzz words they can use to target individual employers, most recuiters actually fake these buzz words now so they can identify a candidate that is subscribing to a website that tells you how to apply for each proepctive company. It's a good way of getting busted at your own game, and getting nowhere with it too.

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Keywords

by Matt.Altman In reply to Keyword confusion

Ok for those who have said keywords don't matter must be stupid. That is the only conclusion I can come to. So let me get this straight. You need to hire a java programmer. You jump on Monster. What do you do from there? Go through every single resume? That's alot of work when you can just TYPE IN A KEYWORD and find what you are looking for. Of course you would need to actually CHECK OVER THE RESUME before hiring anyone. But keywords do help. I got job offers for Sharepoint consultants because I have the word Sharepoint in my resume. So yes, keywords do help.

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by garymac12 In reply to Resume

Thanks for the ideas.

Actually, I have a decent job now but I am looking at the future when I might need to use my resume in a job search. I have tried the thesis routine about 3x now and have just concluded it is a big waste of my time. It has been about a yr and a half now since completing my last class and you can only say you are working on your thesis so long.

On the other hand, I think I can be using that time much better improving my skillset than trying to do the research and write the thesis.

I hear everyone about the key word stuff. However, I still feel I need to communicate in some way down the line that I have completed the coursework for a Masters Graduate degree yet w/o completing the thesis portion.

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Don't make the keyword mistake

by Oz_Media In reply to Education listings on one ...

Keywords in resumes or buzzowrds have but one single benefit. A recuiter using a bot to search out applicants by the hundres will stmblle on yoru resume too.

From being a BDM for a major Canadian recuiter, I will tell you with absolute certainty that a resume full of keywords and buzz words doe NOT get looked at twice. In fact that is exactly what will get your resume tossed aside by any valued recuiter or employer.

There are actually a few websites you can go to that have interviewed many companies and offer an applicant the key words that the employer is seeking, using these in your resume will end things immediately, as now that recruiters are aware of these services, they spam them to easily filter out resumes from people trying to SOUND the part from people who actually ARE the part.

if you need to explain you education, DO SO. Forget the 15 second BS, forget the keywords crap because that's exactly what it is, pure 100% unadulterated bullspit.


the bst thing you can EVER do to get yoru resume read is to start calling all the companies you want to work for 1 by 1. Don't tell the rreceptionist you want a job or how to apply, just ask for the owner or managers name, that's it.

Second call, ask for said owner as if you were an old friend and have a pitch (WRITTEN DOWN) and pitch him on your skills. After the pitch, ask if he/she would allow you to meet for a personal interview. (Don't think this works, it does and I have done it and taught others to do so for many years now!)

If he doesn't have anything for you, ASK for a referral. "Thanks for your time, I really appreciate your takign my call. Based on what little I've told you, do you know of anyone else who could benefit from someone with my skillset or someone who may be looking for an eager employee?"


The biggest keyword you need to know is TENACITY, find it, use it and flaunt it. you WILL win, almost guaranteed to find employment within two to three weeks of starting a call campaing. make finding a job a job itself, DON'T send your resume into mass recuiters, don't bother posting and waitign on those milti million user websites, they are completely, 100%, entirely useless.

By finding your own target, you also get to dictate salary, instead of taking what is offered.

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If you don't have it don't list it like you do

by jmgarvin In reply to Education listings on one ...

However, you can list it as:

Masters of Science in Foo Expected Graduation Date Bar

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MBA Candidate expected graduation 20XX

by Navy Moose In reply to Education listings on one ...

When I started graduate school, I put on my resume MBA Candidate expected graduation date 20XX and the name of the school. I also put my GPA as well.

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Why not ?

by highlander718 In reply to Education listings on one ...

I would first subscribe to the opinion that you can definitely not list the degree if you don't have it. I do not know on the other hand how can you put it in a good light IF you don't want to get it at all.

Honestly from my perspective, you don't really have any proof that you did not just sleep through the courses and therefore you cannot really get the final degree. Also I think the actual degree is way more than 2 percent of a master degree.

So, why take the full course (do 98% as you say) and than missing the coronation ?

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Honest blunt opinion here....

by JamesRL In reply to Education listings on one ...

Leave off the Masters degree altogether.

As a manager screening resumes, I would definately look twice at someone who said they ALMOST had a degree. But not look twice in a good way.

First question that comes to mind....why not did they not finish? If you told me in your interview you didn't intend to finish, I'd ask why not, and I doubt I would get an answer I am happy with. I would tell you that you knew a thesis was required when you signed on. And you obviously think the degree has some value.

I don't need to know, but I would ask.

James

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