+ 0 Votes 2 out of five jdmercha 7 years ago must not be time to leave yet. But then I'd change #4 to: Annual raise does not keep pace with pay band increase. Thus you always move closer to the bottom of the pay scale. I'd also replace #5 with: New IT manager has no clue what a copmuter is, but micro-manages anyway. + 0 Votes Universal Wayfarer 7 years ago All 5 points are universal. Doesn't matter if it is "IT" or anything else. Despite whatever the headlines say, jobs are just tigher. Because ?I'm older?, or have a ?bigger paycheck? (therefore a target) or whatever, truth is that unless you are low cost or indispensable, companies are looking for ways to cut. This isn?t just ?IT?. It is every job in every company in every country. I don?t understand the incompetence that seems to survive in most companies, maybe it is perpetuated by ineffective supervisors who want someone to make them look competent. Whatever, unless you are your own boss, you are dispensable. + 0 Votes OK bitterdude.... JamesRL 7 years ago 1. If all of your job is about metrics or process, you could be a manager. You may define that as unproductive, but I've done a process job and managed to make a manjor improvement in the project management processes at a company. If all you do is collect numbers, then get out. 2. Budgeting always has an element of reducing expenses. If everyone in the organization isn't looking for ways to do things with more quality and at less cost, then sometimes management has to impose targets based on their own financial projections. Sometimes its reduce expenses or reduce heads - which would you prefer. Acquiring the latest toys is NOT a valid goal. Exploring how new technology can improve quality, increase revenue or reduce costs is a valid exercise and should be funded as far as practical. Companies that don't do this, are beaten up by their competitors that do. 3. Hiring freeze. As a manager with tasks to do, this is a pain. But again, what are the alternatives? I know you are going to suggest that the execs give up their perks. Gee in my company that might buy me someone for a day. But there just isn't an unlimited pot of money, and if you raise your prices in the short term, you may lose customer and revenues in the long term. 4. My bonus and my team's bonus have elements of both. Business metrics help determine how big the pie is going to be, and group and individual objectives shoudl determine how much of the pie a group/individual gets. 5. This is a struggle in some organizations, for a number of reasons. Some old boy networks see IT folks as geeks and not business oriented. If it makes you feel any better, I'm a techie who currently has additional responsibilities in marketing. James + 0 Votes For me Maevinn 7 years ago The time to move on is when I determine that coming to work is a burden, rather than a joy. I hit that not too long ago--dreaded going in, came home literally wiped out. I started looking for a new position immediately. + 0 Votes Its's SUPPOSED to be TEN things!!! stress junkie 7 years ago Don't you keep up with TR standards? + 0 Votes WHO?? moves on tony.hancock 7 years ago 1. Oh God don't measure what I do! - Now that's scary. 2. The newest technology will always fix it - and don't worry about the cost, in fact spend as much as we can. 3. We can't have a hiring freeze - I need someone else to blame. 4. IT is meant to help the Business?? - get out of here you must be joking! I know the system doesn't meet your needs but its really fast and the latest technology (see point 2) 5. I don't want a sheet I have to balance on - I just need a good sleep. Should have read ... If you believe these these 5 signs it's time to move on! + 0 Votes Definition of markr1980 7 years ago Could someone define "metrics". I am a student on the road to an IT career, and I haven't come across this term yet. Is it IT or "business" related? Thanx. + 0 Votes Definition of "metrics" markr1980 7 years ago Could someone define "metrics". I am a student on the road to an IT career, and I haven't come across this term yet. Is it IT or "business" related? Thanx. + 0 Votes You only need 1 sign Snak 7 years ago There's only one sign you need to look for. When you'd rather go fishing, or stay in bed, or play World of Warcraft or online poker, or indeed anything, rather than go to work. In short, the only sign you need to look for is: When you don't enjoy it any more. + 0 Votes I.T.'s been like that for the last 25 years! 50kilroy 7 years ago or at least since the first MCSE boot camp was established. Management as a whole seems to think that the Microsoft toilet-paper system 'engineer' certifications are an indication of ability. But then, they also mistake process for management. + 0 Votes Preach on, brother! sjohnson175 7 years ago My job at a major bank was eliminated the Tuesday after Thanksgiving. In hindsight many of those signs were glaring. But today is my first day at a new place. A tiny company with a loyal customer base and a bright future. I may finally be off the corporate merry-go-round.