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December 24, 2010 at 8:20 am #2246089
Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
Lockedby bus66vw · about 13 years, 3 months ago
I was taken a back the other day at my thanksgiving dinner. When I offered fruitcake or pie, no one wanted the fruitcake. I made the off color remark “Good that leaves more for me”. This brought about a discussion of how much people hate fruitcake. It was a very enlightening discussion. Many days later, I have come to some assumptions and wanderings.
It is time for anti-fruitcake haters club. AFHC (that may already be taken)?
Why do people hold onto fruitcakes for a year or more and them recycle them by giving them out as gifts, particularly if the fruitcake is under par and they would not eat it themselves?
Why do people make fruitcake and give it as gifts if they can’t make a good cake in the first place?
If you give a fruitcake for the holidays, does that make you an evil person?
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December 24, 2010 at 10:00 am #2879161
My mom always made great fruitcake
by jamesrl · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
She’d make two kinds – one dark,one light, and flavour then with dark spiced rum and white rum.
I have tasted some pretty bad fruit cake, but I always hold out hope for the good stuff.
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December 24, 2010 at 11:54 am #2879158
Mmmmmm…. Fruit Cake…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
I LOVE the stuff. I always get weird looks :p Have you tried German Stollen? It is excellent! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stollen
Also Panettone is great http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panettone
Fruit Cake has a horrid reputation. If done right it is most excellent!
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December 24, 2010 at 3:35 pm #2879143
Stollen
by santeewelding · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Mmmmmm…. Fruit Cake…
Raised on it (in Massachusetts). Looked forward to it every year.
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December 24, 2010 at 1:18 pm #2879152
Don’t know if it’s “acquired” a taste
by stalemate · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
I’ve always liked it, but – like eggnog – usually wind up being one of the only family members digging into it.
I did introduce my son to some good fruitcake just last night and he liked it.
My wife and daughter never have issues with Panettone, on the other hand. That’s always a crowd pleaser.
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December 24, 2010 at 3:09 pm #2879145
It’s all that candied fruit for me.
by boxfiddler · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
Gross. Nauseatingly sweet. Blech.
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December 26, 2010 at 1:15 pm #2879410
Yes, its the fruit (if thats what you want to call it)
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to It’s all that candied fruit for me.
I still have unpleasant fruit cake memories from my childhood. Ugly fruitcake with all the gummy pieces of fruit that probably has a half-life. It was like having gummy bears in a not so good, stale cake. Every Christmas we had one of these 10 lb. atrocities. :-&
That used to be a big thing at Christmas when I grew up. Some traditions are best when not carried on.
AV
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December 24, 2010 at 5:30 pm #2879140
The older the better
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
Mum used to make the next year’s fruitcake on Boxing day, wrap it all up and store it (not freeze it) for the year, that way the fruit would sorta ferment in the cake over the year.
Christmas pudding too, which was very similar I guesss. have to use that hard as rock icing with the peaks (snow and mountains), true European Christmas cake!
She hasn’t bothered since we all grew up and none of her grown children (my brother or sister, not me, I’m not grown yet)have done it yet. I used to get a kick out of chomping into money in the Christmas pudding too! Rivers of custard on a good fruity Christmas pudding, yummers!
Now, if nobody wans to eat theirs, all the more for me of course! 😉
Happy HO HO everyone!!
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December 24, 2010 at 5:33 pm #2879138
“not grown yet”
by santeewelding · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
Don’t.
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December 24, 2010 at 9:31 pm #2879126
OZ you should feed a Fruit Cake
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
Give it some rum or whatever else it was originally made with once a month. At the 12 month Mark they are just beginning to mature to the stage where you can eat them.
But when they are 3 years old with Marzipan Icing they are delicious and just melt in your mouth.
Of course it’s a good idea not to drive for a few weeks after eating some.
[i]No Officer I don’t drink but I love [b]Real[/b] Fruit Cake.[/i] 😉
Col
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December 26, 2010 at 2:49 am #2879428
Yeah she did that too
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to OZ you should feed a Fruit Cake
Mum would pull it out every few months and do ‘something’ to it. I think the reason fruitcake is often the brunt of jokes and never caught on in the US is because they generally make it with candied fruits and it just isn’t that same, its more like mush in comparison.
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December 24, 2010 at 9:37 pm #2879125
Sounds like
by santeewelding · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
The HAL 9000 has been subverted by fruitcake.
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December 25, 2010 at 12:30 am #2879118
Danes look at cheese that way…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
if it doesn’t struggle to get out of the cheese bell, it’s a juvie!
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December 26, 2010 at 2:02 pm #2879400
Ok, please enlighten me
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
Why would you eat year-old cake? What about bacteria and things like that? Ugh! Do you really eat that after a year? Eek! I hope Christmas pudding is not that old.
AV
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December 27, 2010 at 7:44 am #2879106
It’s all in…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Ok, please enlighten me
It’s all in the alcohol used in the preparation. Lots of good rum == very long shelf life 😀
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December 27, 2010 at 10:43 am #2879082
Real fruit cake will last AGES
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Ok, please enlighten me
A real fruit cake doesn’t need to be refrigerated, just wrapped and sat in a dark cupboard for a year, being unwrapped and basted every few months.
Millions do it every year, however after tasting the so called “fruit cake” most people go out and ‘buy’ in the US, I can ssee your questioning it too. That’s not really fruit cake though.
From Wiki: [i]”Most American mass-produced fruitcakes are alcohol-free, but traditional recipes are saturated with liqueurs or brandy and covered in powdered sugar, both of which prevent mold. Brandy- or wine-soaked linens can be used to store the fruitcakes, and some people feel that fruitcakes improve with age.”[/i]
Jay Leno ate 125 year old fruit cake: [i][b]”Shelf life[/b]
If a fruitcake contains alcohol, it could remain edible for many years. For example, a fruitcake baked in 1878 is kept as an heirloom by a family in Tecumseh, Michigan. In 2003 it was sampled by Jay Leno on the Tonight Show.”[/i] -
December 27, 2010 at 2:31 pm #2879053
AV Real Fruit Cake
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Ok, please enlighten me
Needs to age quite a bit before eating it.
The very best ones like Scotch are measures in 10 + Years of age.
They are not what you see Mass Produced Crap but hand made and Basted every month with whatever is the preferred Booze.
If any Bacteria can live with all the booze in a Real Fruit Cake they deserve to live but the majority turn up their toes and die.
A Real Fruit Cake is Well preserved. 😉
But if you read any Recipes of the good ones there is no canned fruit and lots of Booze. It is left in a Dark place and basted every month and then only iced just before being eaten. The better recipes call for the fruit cake to age for at least 12 months but the longer the better they taste.
Of course there is a new Traffic Offense here called Driving while under the Influence of Fruit Cake and it’s treated the same as driving under the influence of Alcohol. The only difference is you eat the first and drink the second but the results are exactly the same. Oh and you don’t need to eat much Fruit Cake to be way over the limit where as you need to drink lots of Booze.
Real Fruit Cake is moist and flavored of the Booze mostly Rum or Brandy from what I’ve eaten but any Booze will do at a pinch. :0
Col
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December 27, 2010 at 11:49 pm #2879005
but any Booze will do at a pinch
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to AV Real Fruit Cake
Shhhh, don’t say that, we have American peers here. Two words, Coors Light! ACK! 😀
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December 28, 2010 at 1:26 pm #2878937
But that’s easy OZ
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to but any Booze will do at a pinch
That stuff isn’t Booze. 😉
Col
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December 29, 2010 at 10:51 am #2878864
Relative, Col
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to But that’s easy OZ
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December 27, 2010 at 3:14 pm #2879051
Eew!
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Ok, please enlighten me
Thank you, but I think I’ll stick with just booze. American made or home made, the booze and sugar combo are way over the top for me. It sounds like a science project.
I might study it, but I’m not eating it. :^0 Damn! If booze is that good at preserving something like cake, maybe I should be drinking more of it. :p
AV
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December 27, 2010 at 6:41 pm #2879030
Booze is a very good preservative
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Eew!
But it’s not good for preserving Humans. It has it’s limitations.
If you want to look at the most interesting Human Organ which can expand dramatically and then shrink back down without any Adverse effects you need to look at the Human Uterus.
It can expand to many times it’s original size and then shrink back down without any external damage or marks. So there is nothing like Stretch Marks which would leave a weakness in it and risk the possibility of a Rupture when it gets used the next time.
There is a Compound found in the female Body which enables this to happen and should be the basis for all anti aging compounds.
[b]Oil of Uterus[/b] is the ideal Cosmetic Compound but as there is a Patent on it is not freely available but it has been described Made by Women for Women from Women. 😉
Col
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December 27, 2010 at 6:49 pm #2879027
I get along with
by santeewelding · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Booze is a very good preservative
Eau de Uterine. So powerful is it, I get along with a mere tincture.
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December 27, 2010 at 11:52 pm #2879003
Yeah
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I get along with
But it only takes a second and you’re done for the day (when you’re young anyway 😉 ). Mind you, I can’t eat any more fruitcake but….hmmm, maybe you’re right.
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December 28, 2010 at 5:05 pm #2878929
Well if this is true
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Booze is a very good preservative
I should be ok without nothin’. :p Unfortunately, oil of Uterus is not enough. The Resveratrol in wine seems to help and as an added bonus, you feel pretty good dosing up.
AV
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December 27, 2010 at 11:50 pm #2879004
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December 30, 2010 at 8:32 am #2878774
I’m guessing
by ben “iron” damper · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to The older the better
That not only do you like fruitcake but you most likely ARE a fruitcake. -)
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December 30, 2010 at 8:42 am #2878773
You come to tea
by santeewelding · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I’m guessing
And slap the man with a doily.
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December 30, 2010 at 11:51 am #2878759
Too true
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You come to tea
What a heavyweight!He reminds me of one of those feeble handshakes so many people have these days. ICK!
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December 30, 2010 at 10:28 am #2878768
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December 30, 2010 at 10:36 am #2878766
I’m guessing
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I’m guessing
That you are trying to demonstrate your level of education. Well done, fine display!
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December 30, 2010 at 11:12 am #2878764
Oooh! Look out
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I’m guessing
You’ve got yourself a stalker…
Probably one of those SM freaks a’hankering for a spankering… but really just a’wankering :p
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December 30, 2010 at 11:33 am #2878763
A wankering is about right
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Oooh! Look out
Or tosser works too.
The wanker has been at it for ages now, I get these sicko ‘groupies’ clinging on sometimes.
What happens is they see me arguing with people or defending my comments and feel that, if they have a poke too, other people will think they are cool and they will make new friends by aligning with my opposers.
Unfortunately, unlike when you get it on your shoes, you can’t wipe it on the grass or find a piece of toilet paper to remove it. What’s worse is the attempts at wit, as seen above, which are anything but witty at all.
Sad really, how some people choose to exist. At least, with the Internet, they have an outlet to try and blend into social groups even when they fail so miserably.
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December 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm #2879403
You can’t compare wine to fruitcake
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
Wine is liked by many people. Most fruitcakes I’ve seen and had the pleasure of tasting were hard as a rock and gummy. Wine might be an acquired taste, but fruitcake inspires bad fruitcake memories of holiday’s past. I didn’t know people kept them that long! Double yuk. No wonder I hate them.
People give them as gifts because they *look* pretty on the table. Kind of like a festive ornament.
Go with the pie. Most people like pies like apple or pumpkin, especially around Thanksgiving. Forget mince meat or rhubarb though. Ixnay.
I wouldn’t say you’re evil, I’d just say fuhgeddaboutit. Most people don’t like it. My first thought on receiving a fruit cake from anyone would be oh NO! Most people give them as gifts because they don’t know what else to do with ’em.
AV :^0
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December 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm #2879399
“People give them as gifts because they *look* pretty”
by seanferd · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You can’t compare wine to fruitcake
This is why you just stuff a wick in the center and light it to use as a table centerpiece. (Perhaps the initial ignition should occur out of doors.)
I believe I have had a bit of fruitcake that I liked once. Haven’t delved into its mysteries nor gone hunting for the good fruitcake. My loss, perhaps.
Where I agree that one should probably not compare fruitcake to wine, I believe the phrase fruitcake like wine belongs in a song lyric.
Oh, I know:
A howl and a whine,
Fruitcake like wine,
I’m on the hunt
I’m after youMouth is alive
All gummy inside
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December 26, 2010 at 2:18 pm #2879393
Don’t you wonder what you ate?
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to “People give them as gifts because they *look* pretty”
I mean, how old was it! I think its better as a table centerpiece, I agree. It would be cool to spray it with Krylon and put a flameless candle in it. I won’t be doing that anytime soon though.
Hey, thats a pretty good song. Fruitcake like wine. :-&
AV
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December 26, 2010 at 3:05 pm #2879387
In that instance, no.
by seanferd · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Don’t you wonder what you ate?
It was actually good fruitcake. Not one that looked like it should have had a light on the inside as some sort of disco ball or Star Trek prop. In other words, unlike every other fruitcake I have ever seen.
So I have to credit the idea that there are actually edible fruitcakes extant somewhere. :^0
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December 27, 2010 at 7:48 am #2879105
Speaking of Mince Meat…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You can’t compare wine to fruitcake
I love the “new” Mince Meat pies with all the fruit and the little beef they use in it. Now if you were to put a traditional Mince Meat pie in front of me, I’d turn up my nose faster than a hog eats his slop :O
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December 27, 2010 at 10:48 am #2879080
Yup
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Speaking of Mince Meat…
Sweet and often somewhat tart/sharp, but mincemeat tarts ARE Christmas…and bloody good too! Of course that’s mincemeat without ‘meat’ in it.
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December 27, 2010 at 10:34 am #2879086
Then again
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You can’t compare wine to fruitcake
How many Americans can make REAL fruitcake? A leper could count them on one hand while his fingers fell off.
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December 27, 2010 at 11:14 am #2879076
I don’t like fruitcake
by maecuff · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
But at least it’s better than phlegm in a cup..also known as eggnog.
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December 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm #2879075
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December 27, 2010 at 12:11 pm #2879070
Traditional xmas foods at home…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Eggnog…
Rice porridge with a big dab of butter and cinnamon suger, the traditional starter. The one who got the almond received a prize… some years the almond wasn’t found until last of the porridge went… that means hard work ahead (see the following).
After which, the main course.
– Roast Turkey (a couple of years we had goose, whoa, tasty!) with a gamey conutry-style forcemeat stuffing (was it maybe just dried plums for the goose – goose is fatty, no need for internal greasing).
– Waldorf salad.
– Candied potatoes (i.e. boiled potatoes, fried in butter into which is then added sugar towards the end of the frying)
– Boiled potatoes
– Lingonberry jellyNone of that icky stuff.
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December 27, 2010 at 3:20 pm #2879050
Waldorf salad
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Traditional xmas foods at home…
Very fancy. I never thought of making that, but its really a good choice for the holidays. Do you have a family recipe?
AV
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December 27, 2010 at 9:19 pm #2879013
I seem to remember
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Waldorf salad
chopped up celery sticks, walnuts, apples, grape halves and something in the mayo … powdered mustard, yes.
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December 28, 2010 at 5:10 pm #2878928
I seem to remember one Hotel Owner
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I seem to remember
Saying to a customer
Sorry but we are all out of Waldorf.
Col
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December 28, 2010 at 5:56 pm #2878926
Thats it
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I seem to remember
I’m not sure about the powdered mustard, but I’m sure that probably tastes good.
AV
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December 28, 2010 at 11:17 pm #2878906
Just a hint of it is left
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Thats it
in the taste, brings together the sweeter aromas very nicely.
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December 28, 2010 at 12:04 am #2879002
Well, I think we just ran out of Waldorfs!
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Waldorf salad
LOL! Gotta love Fawlty.
“Basil…BASIL!!!”
“Coming, my little piranha fish!”
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December 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm #2879061
Now Mae…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I don’t like fruitcake
Homemade eggnog = excellent
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December 27, 2010 at 1:44 pm #2879059
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December 28, 2010 at 11:58 am #2878949
With just a hint of…
by cmiller5400 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to meh..
With just a hint of Nutmeg to make it “nog” Leave out the eggs 😀
Rumnog, now that’s a great idea!
edit: formatting
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December 28, 2010 at 12:14 pm #2878945
I could get
by maecuff · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to With just a hint of…
behind the rumnog. No phlegm like substance at all in rum and nutmeg. Still..will probably replace the rum with tequila and the nutmeg with a shot glass.
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December 27, 2010 at 2:38 pm #2879052
Probably because you’ve never had a Real Fruit Cake Mae
by hal 9000 · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I don’t like fruitcake
The really good ones get you plastered with only eating a small piece. My mother used to make Christmas Fruit Cakes just after the new year started and went through a Bottle of Rum to mix them and then another bottle during the year to baste them.
Mind you she used a French Weeding Cake Recipe and if you got one of her Fruit Cakes it was something to be treasured and eaten very slowly.
The Dried Fruit was so moist and full of Rum that you couldn’t eat large pieces but it was lovely and rich.
Pity that you couldn’t legally drive for a week after eating any though. 🙁
Col
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December 27, 2010 at 2:19 pm #2879058
I guess that this would be American fruit cake?
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Fruitcake like wine, an acquired taste or is it a fad to hate it
A proper British fruit cake is made and then wrapped in foil and stored until required. It is periodically “fed” with brandy or sherry through holes pierced all over the top with a cocktail stick. Four or five months’ feeding for a Christmas Cake isn’t too long!
What’s not to like about that?
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December 27, 2010 at 2:25 pm #2879056
In reading through this thread
by boxfiddler · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I guess that this would be American fruit cake?
I conclude I might oughtta add proper fruitcake to my repertoire.
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December 28, 2010 at 1:21 am #2878998
Get to the heart of it
by madsmaddad · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I guess that this would be American fruit cake?
Do you still have those hypodermics you use to refill ink cartridges? Use them to inject rum/brandy whatever in to the heart of the cake.
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December 29, 2010 at 10:53 am #2878863
Caution
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Get to the heart of it
Just make sure the rum or brandy isn’t also cleaing old printer ink out of the syringe.
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December 28, 2010 at 11:35 am #2878952
That
by maecuff · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I guess that this would be American fruit cake?
actually sounds worth trying.
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December 29, 2010 at 1:32 am #2878901
Here’s a Britcake recipe
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to That
http://www.joyofbaking.com/FruitCake.html
It’s an American site but the recipe is from Nigel Slater, British TV cook, and I generally like what he does. They have converted the quantities so no need for me to do it.
🙂
I’m sure that you could feed the cake tequila, if you want to.
:p
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December 29, 2010 at 2:38 am #2878897
Scary…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Here’s a Britcake recipe
Vintage Mescalin fruitcake!!!
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December 29, 2010 at 10:59 am #2878861
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December 29, 2010 at 10:58 am #2878862
That’s just nasty!! There’s no cactus in fruitcake!
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Here’s a Britcake recipe
Using Rum, good scotch etc. brings out the fruity flavours in the cake too. I think you’re better off using liquor that is made with a lot of fermented fruits. Tequilla is a cacti liquor, I don’t think Blue Agave is used in most Christmas cakes, unless things have changed now. (Insert Mr.Yuck grimace here)
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December 29, 2010 at 11:20 am #2878860
Liquor made from fruits… not many.
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to That’s just nasty!! There’s no cactus in fruitcake!
At least not many I’d recommend for slow accumulation… even the ones made from grapes have nastyish compounds in them.
Armagnac is the least scary thing made from grapes I can think of, it has some of those complex hangover-multiplying compounds, but not nearly as much as cognac has.
Rum is from sugar canes, and whisky is from grain, those are much purer sugar sources than fruit and give less complex mixes.
I’d not recommend a Lagavulin for fruit cake either… it might well taste like tar-oil by the end of the year.
Vodka is from potatoes, but that’s maybe too pure… can’t say though.
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December 29, 2010 at 11:22 pm #2878808
Wait. So, no Slivovtz for you?
by seanferd · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Liquor made from fruits… not many.
Really, sometimes I get a hang-on(?) within 15 minutes after drinking some awful beers or some Champagnes or other sparkling wines, including some rather pricey ones. Had a massive banging headache the size of Denmark one New Year’s Day from a very nice Champagne. At least this seems to pass in an hour or so.
“I’d not recommend a Lagavulin for fruit cake either.”
You’re right. Jägermeister it is!
edit: Picky forum software.
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December 30, 2010 at 7:58 am #2878781
Indeed no…
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Wait. So, no Slivovtz for you?
Nor other raki.
Of course, some of those could be good in fruit cake.
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December 30, 2010 at 9:36 am #2878771
You think? Think again.
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Liquor made from fruits… not many.
Eau-De-Vie
A wide range of colorless fruit brandies. Stone fruit, such as cherries, plums, apricots, and peaches, are most frequently used, but berries also flavor some of the best-known eau-de-vie. [b]The fruits generally have so much natural sugar that the mash reaches 40 percent alcohol content by Volume, or 80 proof, during fermentation, so extra sugar is needed. [/b]One of the best-known examples is kirsch, or French cherry eau-de-vie, also called Kirschwasser in Germany. It is produced from fully ripe fermenting cherries or from their juice, without any additional sugar and alcohol.
Another well-known fruit spirit is Calvados, an apple brandy made horn the cider produced in Normandy in France. Under French law, the name “Calvados” can only be applied to distillations of cider which come from 11 specific areas. After distillation, Calvados is stored in oak or chestnut barrels and matured for at least two years. The older Calvados is, the more velvety and aromatic its taste.
Other apple spirits, which can not be labeled as Calvados, are known as eau-de-vie de pomme, apple brandy, or aquardiente di sidre in Spain. [b]In the United States, applejack is a domestic example of an apple brandy from Austria and Germany, Obstler is made from freshly fermented tipples or pears, or a combination of both.[/b] The fruit variety must be listed on the label, and most brands are between 80 and 100 proof.
MY favorite, Glennmorangie Scotch is also fruit finished. peaches, apricots, pears etc.
In fact adding a dram of distilled water to Scotch isn’t for the purpose of watering it down at all (as many people think), it is to extract the fruit flavours and nose from the Scotch.
In conclusion, Brandy, Scotch, Cognac and many other liquors that people would infuse a fruit cake with are indeed VERY fruity.
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December 30, 2010 at 10:33 am #2878767
I stand corrected
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You think? Think again.
…which of those would you recommend?
I think a couple of years worth of kirschwasser would be scary. But that may be the entire point.
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December 30, 2010 at 12:01 pm #2878756
For fruitcake?
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You think? Think again.
Brandy is all I know, maybe dad opened it up a slipped in some of his preferred spirits once in a while but as far as I know it was usually Brandy.
If you are asking about Scotch, mmmmm, Scoooooootch, then I am completely sold on Glenmorangie. Even their blends rival many single malts.
Sherry and Portwood finishes, are my favorite, unless I can afford the Malaga Cask but even the Sherry Wood finish is nealy $100 in Canadian liquor stores.
Their names change ALL the time though as they craft different bottles, not like a mass brewer that punches out the same formula every day, week, year.
When I was in Scotland last, I made it to the Glenfiddich distillery but missed out on Glenmorangie as they were closed. 🙁
I salute the sixteen men of Tain that make it all a reality.
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December 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm #2878753
Applejack,
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You think? Think again.
has been made in European cider regions for a thousand years or more. Because home distillation is illegal, it does seem to be an attractive method to get strong booze.
Take some good, very dry cider and leave it somewhere cold – a few degrees below 0 Celsius but not much colder. Scrape out the ice crystals periodically until you have removed about half of the original volume. If you get it right, freezing really slowly, you will find the ice forms on the sides of your container and you can leave it there before eventually pouring out the applejack from the container’s centre.
If you get it right, feed your fruit cake with this as it is will be intensely flavoured.
If you feed your face then, from personal experience, this DOES give you a hangover and I don’t recommend it. This is because the congeners, poisons such as methanol and pentanol, concentrate.
I believe that this form of freeze distillation is illegal in some states of the US. It isn’t over here but, in my limited experience, it tastes crap, anyway. The scientist in me made me try to make applejack – that’s my excuse – as an exercise in the triple point of alcohol water mixtures.
🙁
Pity…
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December 29, 2010 at 5:10 pm #2878835
Seriously, would you eat that?
by av . · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Here’s a Britcake recipe
I wouldn’t. After reading this whole discussion thread, I will never even taste fruitcake again.
AV
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December 30, 2010 at 9:40 am #2878770
again?
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Seriously, would you eat that?
From the sounds of it you haven’t tasted it to begin with.
Real fruitcake is absolutely delicious! Never judge food by ingredients, judge by taste.
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December 30, 2010 at 4:01 pm #2878737
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December 30, 2010 at 6:15 pm #2878721
LOL
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to I’ve had tastes of fruitcake several times
I can see how it seems like something you’d see on Fear Factor or something but it really is amazing.
It’s not some freaky tasting thing, it’s just like an American fruit cake except the fruit is real dried fruit, the cake isn’t spongy and gooey (more of a nut or banana loaf texture), it has that rich fruit taste and a hint of a nice warm brandy.
Really delicious, thanks for that now I want a whole ‘kin fruit cake! MINE MINE ! !!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ]:)
Sorry, you’ll have to break down and make one, ‘baste’ it yourself, store, baste, store etc. Try a 3-monther at first and work your way up. 😉
History of British Christmas Cake (recipes at bottom)http://www.englishteastore.com/history-christmas-cake.html
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December 29, 2010 at 6:11 pm #2878824
Thanks, neilb.
by boxfiddler · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Here’s a Britcake recipe
I may just give that a shot. 🙂
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December 30, 2010 at 9:45 am #2878769
seems incomplete to me
by oz_media · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to Here’s a Britcake recipe
Maybe just due to tradition of having looked forward to fruitcake for Christmas, but without a good half inch layer of marzipan and then royal icing on top (a little sleigh and Santa helps too) it just isn’t the same to me.
http://www.squidoo.com/christmas_cakes
For those not familiar with royal icing, it LOOKS soft and creamy but is actually hard and sets like a frosting icing.
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December 30, 2010 at 12:54 pm #2878751
You can put marzipan and icing on if you want, Oz
by neilb@uk · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to seems incomplete to me
But not until a couple of days before Christmas. Get the cake well fed, first.
🙂
I’ve been chatting to my old Mum about this and she remembers her mother making the Christmas cake on the equinox, September 21st, and alternating brandy and Sherry until December.
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December 30, 2010 at 2:18 pm #2878745
Wow
by ansugisalas · about 13 years, 3 months ago
In reply to You can put marzipan and icing on if you want, Oz
witchcrafty!
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December 30, 2010 at 2:49 pm #2878743
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