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By amna1659 ·
Hi to all.
This discussion is regarding career help. Newbies like me couldn't get any clear cut help choosing career path ( computers) e.g.

which way to go like:-

1) Network Administration or Network Engg. or
Network Designing

IF yes which path Microsoft / Cisco etc . then
there after Security , Admin etc.

2) Programming side

Application programming
Embedded systems

if application programming
Then
Front End ( Java/ Vb)
bACLEND (oRACLE / mYSQL ETC)
wEB sERVERS
iNTERNET pROGRAMMING

iF Embeded system one then

Low lwvwl programming
Network programming

Can any body guide us ( all newbies) abt which way to go , which way has more brighter futer and any thin else ....

I hope this 'll help many of us , we'll owe something to u all helping guys.....


hoping for response.....

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~shudder~

by Jaqui In reply to Hanging Newbies

application programming is not a front end backend thing.
application programming is writing the code for... say oracle server, excel spreadsheet, microshaft word.
using the macro scripting language is business logic programmng.

embedded systems programming, aka cell phones, palm computers, most are using linux, most of the programming is application development, for a network device.
or the router/firewall/email filter. which is also usually linux based hardware, and agian, the embedded system's applications are network applications.

and this question has been asked repeately, and answered repeatedly.
look through archives before saying that you are left hanging.

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on the other hand ...

by stress junkie In reply to ~shudder~

I'm tempted to agree with Jaqui that this question has been asked and answered many times here. But there are a couple of considerations before recommending that someone look up previous answers. For one thing it is not easy to find older discussions on a given topic. A second consideration is that I sense a difference between this person's question and previous discussions on this topic. I get the impression that this person is looking for or would be better served by us recommending more general guidelines and suggestions than previous posts on this subject. So I'm going to take that approach and see where it takes us.

I recently "celebrated" my 20th anniversary in this field. Looking back over that time I have a few observations that may be helpful. The most pertinent thing that I can say is that your career probably won't follow your plan. Here is how things worked out for my career.

When I got out of college I had planned to be an application developer. My first job in this field was working for a very small business where I was the only computer person. I ended up creating a few applications, a few databases with applications, assisting end users with using commercial applications, and performing all of the system administration. When I left this employer I found more jobs in system administration than in my other areas of experience. After a while I found that it had been a long time since I had been a DBA or application developer. Businesses were using software development tools that I had not used. I found that I was pretty much locked into system administration.

I very much enjoy system administration but I really wanted to design databases. It seemed that the Tao of my career was pushing me away from software development and into computer support. After a few years my experience allowed me to to be paid as an experienced system administrator but I would have to accept entry level pay to get back into software development, so I went with system administration. I've enjoyed my career but back in 1985 I would not have been able to see how it would turn out. I've still got another 20 years to go and I have to admit that I cannot accurately predict what is ahead. I would encourage you first and foremost to follow the money. Then within that context I would recommend that you seek jobs that involve performing tasks that interest you and that exploit your natural talents. Ultimately you may find, as I did, that the opportunities that present themselves have a greater impact on the direction of your career than your plans.

Lastly I would encourage you to stop using that IM shorthand. Learn and use proper English. IM lingo makes you look immature and ignorant.

Good luck. :-)

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ditto

by jeffersnet In reply to on the other hand ...

I also started out as a DBA and ended up as a System Engineer. I wouldn't be able to be a DBA now because too much has changed even though it has only been about 10 years since my switch. I could have stuck with my DBA path and at times I wish I would have done that but I followed the money at the time and I think I've become a pretty good SE since my change.

I do think that IT is becoming more specialized as time goes on and that it is important to pick the right career path but don't just do it for money or you won't be happy and if it doesn't make you happy you won't be good at it and then you won't have money anyway.

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Having a bad day?

by dbertsche In reply to ~shudder~

A little curt don't you think?

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here's a thought

by Shellbot In reply to Hanging Newbies

right..i suggest looking for some free online classes to try out a few things, or look for a 1 year general IT course you can take which would touch on a little bit of everything, then maybe you would find your better at one or two items, or like them better.
i started out with a bit of web programming..then VB6 courses..why on earth did i spend 3 years as a Data Anylyst (in FoxPro for goodness sake)i'll never know..which has consequently taken me into DBA work..but am in a job as a DB Support / DBA right now. I've found I'm incredibly good as an anylyst, not sure if i enjoy it 100%, but i can say with no vanity that i can rip apart a database and give you statistics and anlysis like you have never seen. But i'll get to use my web programming in a short while..woo hoo..
(i think i've confused myself now..what am i again?)

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Well if you are talking education

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to Hanging Newbies

stop with this proprietry stuff and choose a basic area of IT. There's no particular reason except talent skill and the market why you can't be all of admin, databases and coding during your career, I've been back and forth in all of them and on several different operating systems.

Don't learn MySQl or Oracle PL/SQL, learn SQL !.
I've lost count of how many different flavours of SQL, I've used, if you know the basics and the SQL standard, the rest will fall into place very easily.
If you are looking at it from a technical point of view then it depends on how far in the future you are talking about. Whatever the industry trends are now they won't be in a few years time, what's the in thing now won't be soon. Learn the underlying principles, how to use google and then apply them.
If you want to know what the in thing will be in two years time look for waht's required and invent it. Even if a reputable astrologer told waht it would be there wouldn't be any courses in it.

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Get a degree...

by jmgarvin In reply to Hanging Newbies

First get a degree in Computer Science or IT. Find your niche while you are in school.

Keep in mind, no matter how hard you plan, you'll never know where you are going to end up. I never planned on being an instructor, but I am VERY glad my career path has lead me here.

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Great.....

by amna1659 In reply to Get a degree...

Thank You all for giving your valuable suggestions and guiding me in this field.

But I am not still clear.
As there is a point of a degree in computers , I am Bachelors in Computer Applications.

But leave that part apart, back to main discussions ,

The main ideas of guidance is guys like me have strong knowledge of ( Network administration CCNA , MCSE) , strong hold on C programming (Sun Certified), moderate Linux experience , have done projects in VB & Oracle , moderate experience in Java , craze for money (of course) .

But all this done during studies. Got no work exposure and not sure about which industry has got good money and will be stable.

I know I am changing the topic altogether ,but with guys like you who are working in industry right now , you can give me better advice than on any website or irrelevent discussions done in past ( in present scenerio).

I have searched a lot , asked from my teachers .
But couldn't get a light in dark .

If you can guide me , i will be thankfull to for this help and this will be relly appreciated.

Cheers ,

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I think it boils down to this..

by jmgarvin In reply to Great.....

What do you like to do? While there are some fields that aren't going to pay the money, if it is what you like to do you will be FAR more happy than doing the same ol' drudgery that you hate.

It sounds like you like networks, so I'd push for you to be a network admin. You might also want to become and application programmer of some sort.

I think the main thing is, what do you love to do?

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Great .....

by amna1659 In reply to Hanging Newbies

Thank You all for giving your valuable suggestions and guiding me in this field.

But I am not still clear.
As there is a point of a degree in computers , I am Bachelors in Computer Applications.

But leave that part apart, back to main discussions ,

The main ideas of guidance is guys like me have strong knowledge of ( Network administration CCNA , MCSE) , strong hold on C programming (Sun Certified), moderate Linux experience , have done projects in VB & Oracle , moderate experience in Java , craze for money (of course) .

But all this done during studies. Got no work exposure and not sure about which industry has got good money and will be stable.

I know I am changing the topic altogether ,but with guys like you who are working in industry right now , you can give me better advice than on any website or irrelevent discussions done in past ( in present scenerio).

I have searched a lot , asked from my teachers .
But couldn't get a light in dark .

If you can guide me , i will be thankfull to for this help and this will be relly appreciated.

Cheers ,

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