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By skutts ·
I have a PC for imaging hard drives, which recently started having problems.

All hard drives being imaged are Quantum Fireball 5.1Gb UDMA33 IDE, all with the same revision number, but a wide range of serial numbers.

If i image a brand new drive, all is well, but if I image a previously used drive, the machine doesn't even finish the BIOS check with the imaged drive set to master, but boots fine with it set to a slave (even if I image a new drive then image it again). With it set to slave, I can boot normally, see the contents of the drive, and all seems well. I have tried using several PC's to image from, using the master image which has been in a seperate location for the last year, formatted them, fdisked them, even run low-levelformats, all to no avail. I have performed full virus scans on all the drives, run various diagnostic tests on new, imaged and re-imaged drives, all seem to be fine, but as soon as a re-imaged drive is set to master, all I get is a flashing cursor in the top left of the display.

I have not tried any different make/model/size drives, as I have none available. I can't believe all the drives are faulty (I have a random sample of about 15, with wildly different serial numbers). This system hasbeen working fine for over a year, and only last week failed.

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by Mike (from Canada) In reply to Hard drive imaging

this is what I recommend. Set one hard drive to master mode and set the other hard drive to slave mode. the hard drive you want to use to boot with MUST be in master mode. Now there is an IDE cable with 3 plugs. One in the center and 2 at both ends.one end is further away from the center than the other end. Here is a ascii picture of the cable:

'-----------------'-------'
1 2 3

I have named the plugs plug 1, plug 2, and plug 3. Now connect plug 1 to the I/O card orcontroller of your computer. Now plug #2 goes to the master hard drive. if it does not fit in one way, then plug it in the other way. Now plug 3 goes to the remaining hard drive. dont shove the plug in! make sure that when you lay out the plugs thatall of the sockets are facing the same direction without twists in the cable. If it doesnt work, then replace the drive.

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by skutts In reply to Hard drive imaging

I have tried several drives, and different combinations of master/slave, on 1 and 2 cables. As I said in the original mail the problem only occurs when the imaged drive is not brand new, and is set to master

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by greg.ahler In reply to Hard drive imaging

One suggestion I might have is to try to re-partition the MBR on the destination drive. Otherwise, suggestion number two might be to just set the jumpers to "CS" or cable select. Let the BIOS find the drive with the/a valid MBR and cut loose.

Don't know if it will help, but I've decided to allow the BIOS to determine the boot drive.

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by skutts In reply to Hard drive imaging

Thanks for the help, but I have tried both of those - no different - one thing I forgot to mention was that after having any re-imaged drive as master, no other drive works as master until I reset the BIOS by shorting the service (or equiv) jumper.Several PC's tried now - different makes/boards/chipsets - none work

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by tazmania In reply to Hard drive imaging

Is the system you pull the image from having problems that may create a problem with the image. It's important to make sure it's connected to the ide cable correctly. Have you checked the CABLE? Use a know good cable. Sometimes one of the connectors goes bad but because the other still works it can be missed.

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by skutts In reply to Hard drive imaging

Thanks, but have tried different cables, even a shielded UDMA100

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by estebandelatorre In reply to Hard drive imaging

it's like a partition active problem or a kind of confussion of how windows assign drive letters and partitions when having more than a partition and a hard drive.
The boot drive, usually C: should be the only partition set to ACTIVE. The PC will search for a boot sector onto this disk+partition.
The second partition in the same disk should be an extended one. This user disk should be set to master(jumpers)
When adding a second drive to make an image to (here is the problem), depending on how this drive is seen by the machine, the images dumped will be restored. Once you plug the drive( as slave), go to the fdisk and check that you drive partitions and letters assigned have not changed!. Then will be a good try to go inside windows or any other operating system and see it everything is fine.
If the second HDD has an only one active partition, the partition order will be:

letter c: hd1 / active partition
letter d: hd2 / active partition
letter e: hd1 / extended partition

Hope it helps!

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by skutts In reply to Hard drive imaging

The image I am using is a single partition on a single hard drive (ultimately!)

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