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Help with SpinRite6

By k1ngr4t ·
I have searched EVERYWHERE for help. So I have my copy of SpinRite 6. Finally was able to burn the ISO image to a CD, booted from the CD, got into the SpinRite OS, and just sort of winged it. I didn't change any setting or anything like that, simply followed the instructions to choose which drive to work on and hit either enter or spacebar as needed. Waited 5 hours for whatever it was doing to finish. Finally finished, said operation was completed successfully, yet all of the data screens you can view afterwards didn't seem to show anything.

So I'm not sure what happened. After it was finished I looked over those several review screens and, since none of it really made sense to me, gave up on interpreting and exited. I wasn't even sure how to tell if any data was recovered or if I was supposed to direct the recovered data somewhere else or what. No manual after version 5 available so I'm at a loss. I feel like I made good progress on my own, but now I'm desperate. I simply cannot lose some of the files that were on my external. Tried to load up the external after I finished, yet still says "drive is unavailable or corrupted."

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I suppose it's possible I chose the "operation 1" which I guess just scanned the HDD. Like I said, I didn't make any special changes other than choosing the external. So if it starts on operation 1 by default then that would make sense, however when viewing the screens at the end there was a little "square root sign/checkmark" next to operation 2. Anyone know? PLEASE?!?!

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No manual came with the purchase?

by seanferd In reply to Help with SpinRite6

No matter, see the website. Manuals for v5 should still have most of the same information.

http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm
See all the links toward the bottom.
http://www.grc.com/srdocs.htm
V5 manuals.

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Nope

by k1ngr4t In reply to No manual came with the p ...

I've actually quickly browsed through it, admittedly nothing horribly thorough as a lot of it doesn't make THAT much sense to me. And it's actually pretty different. Though the words are generally the same, a lot of the pictures they show are not at all the same as what I dealt with. I guess what I really want to know is how do I finish and test the drive? Should I just be able to plug it in and it'll play again? Or at some point am I supposed to select a drive to send the recovered data to? Am I supposed to be able to choose the files individually through the SpinRite OS? I DON'T KNOW!!! Hardware makes sense to me, but I am soooo NOT a software person...

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As I don't recall ever having used it myself,

by seanferd In reply to Nope

and I am not certain at all what it was you had initiated, I can't really say what it is you are supposed to do.

For all I know, you ran a set of tests on the hardware that say what is or isn't wrong with the drive. I don't know at all what steps you would take to read data off the drive - and yes, write it to another drive. Unless there isn't anything terribly wrong, perhaps an easily rebuilt partition or MFT caused by a problem other than drive failure. (I would still invest in a backup anyway if it is Important Data.

That is the other thing - we don't even know what symptoms prompted you to run Spinrite on the drive.

edit: Oops, I forgot to ask - have you tried reading from this disk, then? If there was something that was fixed by Spinrite, and you don't understand the output (save any logs?), the best way to find out what is up would be to try copying the drive.

(I still can't seem to download the manual or even the brochure at the moment.)

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Yeah

by k1ngr4t In reply to As I don't recall ever ha ...

Well I'm pretty sure it was corrupted because I didn't properly dismount it. I thought the drive was off but, sure enough, it wasn't.

A log was saved to the disk so I'll look that over tonight, so thanks for that suggestion.

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Bad dismount.

by seanferd In reply to Yeah

I would use a disk tool to check the partitions for corruption and such then, followed by a chkdsk.

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Well for starters if you

by OH Smeg In reply to Help with SpinRite6

I simply cannot lose some of the files that were on my external

You certainly shouldn't be using something which can completely destroy whatever it is you have on that drive.

As you say that this Data is Important you should send it to someone who knows what it is that they are doing and pay the price of a Professional Recovery. The more that you unsuccessfully mess with the drive now the more expensive that recovery is going to be and the less likely it is to be successful.

According to Gibson Research Corporation the makers of Spinrite The best way to learn what SpinRite 6.0 can do for you is to click the
PLAY button below to watch this fun, interesting and fact-filled video:
Here

http://www.grc.com/sr/themovie.htm

Not really sure what is different with SP6 from the earlier versions because it's not something that I personally use and it's never something I would touch for anything Important.

But with any Data Recovery you never make any changes tot he Affected Drive as that should never be touched just read from and the data saved elsewhere, that way if whatever you are trying doesn't work you have not done any damage tot he drive which is going to make it Harder/More Expensive to recover data.

Also if you understand Hardware as well as you say you do you would know that External Drives are only ever for part time use and should never be relied upon as any form of Secure Backup let alone Primary Data Storage. You would never use something like that unless it's in a Vibrational Suppressed Enclosure which is actively cooled and even then you would know that the drive in it is going to have a shorter life expediently and be unreliable at best for Long Term Storage.

NAS type enclosures are OK but the small external cases are just downright dangerous and they are way too unreliable to be used for anything short of Part Time Use when there is no possibility of anything happening to the drive and they should always be used with Desktops never a NB or NetBook.

Then there is the simple fact that they very rarely get dismounted correctly and have their Partition Tables Corrupted so they should only be used as a Last Resort and even then never be relied upon to actually work. Those things give computing a very bad name as people expect them to be reliable which they simply can not be.

Anyway as said above if this is Really Important Data you should now pack up the drive and send it to your preferred Data Recovery Specialist before you completely ruin any chance of recovering the data. If you must use a Software Option always save any data to another location that is most defiantly on another drive or you run the risk of hopelessly overwriting the data that you want to recover. When that happens you need to have a Forensic Recovery performed and the only places that I know who are capable of doing work like that do it for the Legal System Recovering Data of suspected Kiddy Fiddlers and the Big End of Town Corporate Crime Types. Not sure just how much one of those recoveries costs but it most certainly destroys the drive as they remove the platters coat them with some Green Goup and then read whatever directly off the platters.

However I wouldn't expect any change out of a Million $ if not considerably more.

I've personally not found anyone willing to pay that much for a recovery and it's only the Legal System backed by Big Government who follow this path for the really Bad People.

Col

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Hm...

by k1ngr4t In reply to Well for starters if you

Well, for starters, I do not appreciate your tone sir. Your response was somewhat helpful if not rather condescending. You should consider the possibility though that it was actually while trying to transfer data from my external to my new desktop that it became corrupted. I was able to get 70gigs of music out. Also, if YOU knew anything about external hardware, you'd know they can DEFINITELY be used for long term use. I've probably had this HDD a good 5 years now, just got a new desktop last Friday...and I'll admit, I've not always played nicely with this thing.

Anyways, thanks for that link. That's very helpful. The whole reason I chose this program was because I knew I could figure it out without paying someone to do something simple, like most computer issues. And now I have it for long term use, just in case.

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You might consider...

by SmartAceW0LF In reply to Hm...

Thickening your skin a bit and showing a bit of respect for those whose skills just "may" be beyond your comprehension. I, for one, found nothing condescending in OH_Smeg's post. It was after all a reply framed in response to "your" unfortunate choice of words. Consider that the vast majority of people responding to help with these questions are not typical Helpdesk technicians. Most of the ladies and gentlemen here would be more aptly referred to as "engineers".

Please don't feel I am bashing you as I am not. Just pointing out that what you deem important in terms of unimaginable loss might differ somewhat in perspective than that of a large corportation.

All of the above notwhithstanding, you would be wise to heed everything OH_Smeg stated for future referrence as it is all quite correct and could save you some grief in the future.

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You're right...

by k1ngr4t In reply to You might consider...

Had a long day and was pretty upset/frustrated over this issue. My life isn't dependent on what's on the drive, but there's a lot of really important, be it sentimental or extremely time consuming, data on there that would really, REALLY upset me and set me back in several ways if I lost it.

I'm not arguing with anybody that I shouldn't have kept such personal data on there, I just want to know how to use this damn program...

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OH well since you where transferring the data to a new system

by OH Smeg In reply to Hm...

What's stopping you from just networking the old to the new system with a Cross Over Cable and transferring the data that way?

Far more reliable and faster as it's not limited the the USB Interface/Port Speed. Not to mention not needing to recover the lost data on the external drive.

I really do not want to get into a disagreement with you but long term use of a external Drive in a Non Vibrational enabled enclosure without Active Cooling is a recipe for disaster.

But as many people say there are only two types of computer user those who have lost all of their data and those who are about to loose all of their data.

However if you simply must use an External try one of these cases from Antec they are very good but I don't trust them all that much when the Data is Important.

http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NDc=

After being in the first group a couple of times you very quickly learn that you don't want to continue in that group so you learn to take steps so it doesn't happen again. Of course till then Close Enough is Good Enough. :^0

Col

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