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How much info can you stuff in 1 brain?

By nonamecharlie ·
Looking to switch jobs. I thought I had decent resume but looking at what is required nowadays..basic laundry lists of required skills.

" Must know Novell, NDS, Active Directory, NT, Perl scripting, C++, Oracle ERP, CISCO switches. Required CNE, MSCE, CCNP. Linux and J2EE skills a plus."

I am confident in my ability to master all those, just not in 1 lifetime.

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yup

by road-dog In reply to How much info can you stu ...

I've noticed the trend also, but from the other side. Historically, I've been a layer 3 and below black belt. Nowdays, that that isn't enough.

Clients want the whole kit and kaboodle in one guy. I've learned Microsoft in self defense to grow intothe req's that I'm seeing.

What happened to the days when client/server and networking/telecom were separate?

I've had to put CCIE on hold for a year to tweak servers.

And yes, we need more of the fairer sex in this field. It's looking toomuch like a Star Trek convention....

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Avenue best to pursue

by nonamecharlie In reply to yup

Well, I do meet the fairer sex from time to time but they aren't really all that fair(are you picking up what I'm throwing down?). So I might as well talk about table saws and Trucks.

Star Trek was fun to watch but it was just a TV show. William Shatner is much more fun to watch on those Price Line commercials.

Do I learn Unix? Go for CCNA? Get my CCA? Commit to CNE? Dabble in C++/Java just to be on the safe side? And what the world is Blue Martini?

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Life is too short

by road-dog In reply to Avenue best to pursue

Decide what you like best. Build your core competencies around that facet of this industry. When you feel like you?ve gotten as good at that as you need to be for that next year or so, then branch out to your second and third priority facets. If youfind that you need to side track on occasion, that?s fine. Specialization is for insects.

Technology is moving too quickly to keep abreast of all things at all times.

Stick to what you like as much as you can....This has worked for me.

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Brain Relief Valve.

by admin In reply to How much info can you stu ...

I swear that when it's full you put something else in & it spits something else out. Some days it pays more to remember how to find information quickly than to remember it all.

As for the laundry list, one of the things that may be behind this, at least for some companies, is not mastery, but a dedication and commitment that is a bit above your standard vocationally retrained out of work person forced to get off
of government benefits. If you can prove you have what it takes, some companieswill swap time in the field and even help you get the certs you need.

:)

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Unrealistic reqs. on nonsuperman folk

by nonamecharlie In reply to Brain Relief Valve.

I wasn't being facetious when I made that laundry list. It's just that one person cannot be all those things..programmer, network analyst, system engineer, database administrator..those are all different disciplines. Each of them requiring a different sort of brain. Yes, they all are IT but a podiatrist can't fix a migraine.

It is not about the certification but ensuing frustration that the more you learn, the less you know.

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But the Podiatrist could benefit from

by admin In reply to Unrealistic reqs. on nons ...

learning some things about migranes. To me it is not frustrating, but rather exciting that the more you learn the less you know. I think this is the point where we begin understanding that infinity goes in all directions.
Having said that, in the reality of getting a job, I know of HR departments that essentially put up near impossible standards so that they can pick and choose who they really want to help "bend" into the criteria. With all the laws regarding hiring, this has been one way thatsome companies still screen people out who may have quite similar non superhuman qualities to the person that actually gets the job.

I guess I see in the real world, that most applicants as well as the people that land these jobs often fall short and I'm ok with myself falling short too. I also think that while this field is too complex for one person to intimately know everything, that there is still a place for generalists who cross disciplines and creatively enter new territories.

This sounded more like the laundry list to me.... an MD who would send you to a specialist for the migraine or the podiatry. I could obviously have been mistaken though.

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If you have the list you stil deselected

by slaptop In reply to But the Podiatrist could ...

I've done just about everything at all levels on all platforms/networks.
Guess what.....when I applied and told them what I've achieved and knowledge I've amassed....first they didn't believe me..when I proved I have the knowledge, they asked me....how old are you...when I told them 47 (thats how old you'd need to be to cram it all in) they informed me they wanted a "dynamic" 'player' who'd fit in well with the team.
So I didn't get the job. Do you think they wanted a game playing kid who somehow knew everything but also fitted into a "dynamic" team who knew nothing?
So I have to dumb down my CV but still put all the acronyms in and take 20 years off the experience level.

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What a riot!

by nonamecharlie In reply to If you have the list you ...

Gee, were you able to have a life in the process? I could master all those requirements but I would never see daylight as IT people are usually placed in the dungeon.

Well, in their defense, a good fit is important. I've seen enormously talented people done in by their inability to work with others. Difficult people (not saying you, of course) can really drag down a department.

I bet you were over qualified and they thought you would leave all the team members behind in the dust!

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I COULD do that too!

by road-dog In reply to What a riot!

....if I were to lock myself in a small room with a bed, a computer and a library. I would need a 55 gallon drum of coffee per week, keep slipping pizzas under the door. see you in about 3 years.

I know a guy that can go to sleep with a documentation CD in his pillowcase and wake up smarter. That kills me.

I have test anxiety so bad that I make hundreds of flash cards, cram until I look like the unabomber, and stare at the ceiling all night the evening before a test. I usually do quite well on the tests, but I cannot help it.

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Good Points

by FluxIt In reply to What a riot!

More often than not difficult people are not the IT people.

Certs and Education are just filter items. When you don't have them they can't pay you as much. When you have them you are over qual'd and they can't pay you what you are worth.

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