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How to make Yahoo Classic my default email?

By franl155 ·
I’m running Windows XP with Internet Explorer 8. I’ve had a Yahoo email account for oh, ever since I got my first PC. Lately, there’s been an “upgrade” option: I tried it once, then went back to Classic layout.

Now, however, “they” have decided that I *must* use the new layout – even though I can’t.

I’m visually impaired, and have the screen resolution set to the lowest, for the largest display;’ even so, I need around 150% zoom.

With the “smart” new layout, I can’t see who emails are from, I only get two or three letters in the subject, which is very useful. I could reduce the zoom to get more, but what’s the point of that when it’s then too small for me to read? And the “smart” new banner takes up half the screen, so I have a window about three inches square to try to read emails in two- or three-word segments.

I have another link for Yahoo mail, and I tried the one that wasn’t in Internet Options. That opened to the Classic view, but once I’d read an email and tried to answer it, it flipped back to the useless one. Reloading the same link just cuts straight to the new layout. So I suppose I’d have to restart the PC every time I’ve read or answered an email to get the Classic layout back

I tried “contact Yahoo”, for all the good that did; just got into an endless loop of “help” which didn’t live up to its name in the slightest.

Then tried Googling “make Yahoo Classic the default” – I found some articles: I don’t know what version of IE they’re using, but I didn’t recognise any of it, and certainly can’t find a “no Java” option.

Apart from the considerable practical difficulties of trying to read and write emails through a keyhole, I resent being forced to change something which, so far as I was concerned, didn’t need changing at all. I mean, what difference can it make TO THEM what system I use to read my emails? So long as I can read them?? But THEY decided that I MUST “upgrade” whether I like it or not. Not!

And to cap it all, I’m currently involved in negotiating a house move. Now I can’t email the agents (trying to write emails is just as hard as trying to read them), I can’t read any emails they might send me, and if the move comes off, I’ll need to email people to change account details ??? they *would* have to force this “upgrade” at the worst possible moment.

I wish I could post pics, I’ve taken a screenshot of how useful the new layout is(n’t).

If I can’t get Classic back, I’ll have to find another email provider. What would people advise as being simple, clear, easy to use and easy to see?

Thanks

Frances

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I'm still using Yahoo Mail Classic,

not sure how much longer it will still be available, had to find the really tiny link to "remind me later" about the "upgrade". So, here's the ONLY method in the past I found to get back to Yahoo Classic. Use an alternate browser, I used Opera in Win95 and Arachne in DOS,
turn off JavaScript in options, then navigate to the Yahoo Mail page https://login.yahoo.com/config/login_verify2?&.src=ym
You might get a notice to enable JavaScript, etc, yada yada, ignore these and look for the "Use Classic" link somewhere on the page. This should reset your preferences.
An alternative, though I never tried it, was to completely empty your browser of stored cookies and temporary files, in the Internet Options of Internet Explorer...the disable JavaScript and load the Yahoo Mail login page. I'm not sure how much longer these will work though.
If you decide to try the Opera browser, I would recommend using an older version, say version 11.64, though 12.15 might be OK.
The main thing is to not have any cookies stored in your browser and to have JavaScript turned off...this initiates the Yahoo servers to treat it as a totally "new" visit. Once you've gotten back to Classic, you can re-enable JavaScript, but when you revisit Yahoo Mail, be sure to look for the "remind me later" line towards the bottom of the page when offered the "upgrade".
I also noticed the upgrade notice page listing a "basic" version, whatever that is I don't know yet, so don't click on that.

edit to add...just thought of another way to access my workaround, though it may be a bit complicated. Ever try the old text mode web browser Lynx? I use it in DOS, never tried the Windows version, not sure it would run on XP anyway. BUT...we do have access to a Lynx browser if you use telnet! OK, here goes...from the Start Menu in WinXP, find Command Prompt in the Accessories group. Click that and then enlarge the command window to size needed. Type the command "telnet" without quotes, press enter key. When the telnet client has started, type open lynx.scramworks.net and press enter key. If this server is still operational (which is was a few moments ago) you should be presented with a welcome and login screen. You'll have to sign up for an account, but the onscreen help is pretty good. Once you have an account, you can use the hosted Lynx at this site to browse the web! Start their Lynx browser and enter the URL I gave above, and Yahoo should reset itself.

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OK, just tried the Scramworks Lynx...kind of difficult to read and my near vision is still pretty good, so that may be a problem for you with vision difficulties. The problem is probably the telnet client in WinXP is rather weak and rudimentary. I've also got HyperTerminal installed, which is what I normally use for telnetting with XP and Win7, gives me better control over video output. So, hold off on the Scramworks suggestion...BUT, it does work!
ps...thanks for the opporturnity to jog my memory! It had been a while since I used Lynx, it has been a long-time favorite of mine! If you had an old DOS machine available I would say try Arachne...she is a jewel for browsing, fast and secure, no scripting to worry about, no drive-bys. Anyway, let me know if you need more help!
Wiz

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I found another alternative browser that MAY just do the trick to get back to being able to reset your Yahoo Mail preferences. It's based on Dillo, called D+ (D Plus). Only 1.2 meg or so download, you can place it in its own directory on your hard drive then double click to run it. It does not do Java, JavaScript or plugins...so it should get Yahoo to send you to either Classic or at least to Preferences, or provide a link. Yahoo seems to class D+ as a "screen reader" browser, hence the link to preferences.
After launching D+, go to the address bar at the top, backspace through anything already there (default is the "about" page) then type in "mail.yahoo.com" without quotes, press Enter key and that should get you to the login page. Once you login, at almost the bottom of the page, is a link to "remind me later", click that and your back in Classic.

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Sheesh...forgot the link to D+ browser!
http://dplus-browser.sourceforge.net/

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If my workaround doesn't work,

and you need to change email providers, there are a couple of ways to go.
Hotmail, now Outlook.com, works pretty well in Windows XP for the time-being...how long this will continue I don't know. I use it as web-based as well as via Outlook Express, Windows Live Mail and even in Linux using KMail or ClawsMail.
Another option, and please everyone, no laughing, no jokes, besides I've heard them all already...AOL Mail. Yes, I said it, AOL Mail. You can sign up for a free email account that is quite easy to learn and use. Again, I can use it on the web or one of my email applications, even in Linux.
That gives you a couple of options that I consider easy to use. I have other email services I use, but none offer as much flexibility for the price (free!!), as most are now web-based only.
(Softhome.net, Operamail.com, etc.)

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by franl155 In reply to If my workaround doesn't ...

Bless you, Wizard! that must have taken you some considerable time and effort.

I'll try getting rid of cookies first, then if taht does't work I'll try Opera - I was thinking about that anyway, but didn't want to second-guess anyone.

I'm not in favour of Outlook - used it years ago, but then it threw a sulk and i did'nt know where on my PC it stored the emails, so I lost hte lot.

I'm trying to put my eggs in as many different baskets as possible, and not use one company for everything - granted, they can still spy on us, but no reason to make it any easier for them!

I'll let you know how I get on

Thanks again!!!!!

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Frances,
Thank you for the "bless you"! Most of this work-around was done many years ago, using Arachne and Lynx, so it was basically a trip down memory lane to remember everything! I have another trick up my sleave should we need to deploy it...but using Opera or D+ should work. My other trick is one I used with Arachne for DOS, since it doesn't handle SSL and HTTPS sites...so I came up with a way to access Yahoo Mail without that or JavaScript!

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by franl155 In reply to If my workaround doesn't ...

Thought I’d try deleting cookies first: I found that I have over 12 thousand of them, so they could do with pruning.

Used Search to find any containing Yahoo, found 331, tried to delete, but “cannot delete file, cannot read from the source file or disk” I can and have deleted other cookies, but it “can’t find” any Yahoo ones to delete. I can delete Yahoo cookies one at a time, but not select a bloc and delete them in one go. I can delete blocs of non-Yahoo cookies. Isn’t that convenient – for them?

Had to delete them one at a time, apart from one, which refused to delete for some time.

Went through, trying to work out which sites I go to regularly, so needed cookies for, then gave up and deleted the lot – cleared the lot, then checked it was still empty, still got three that refuse to delete – select, delete, click yes on “are you sure?” box, but they still won’t go.

Refreshed IE tabs, Yahoo is one of them; it came up with a sign-in page in German, I think; had to Google for “yahoo” to get it in English. Got the sign-in page, can’t see any options for Classic. Tried it anyway, got new layout.

And they don’t like my screen resolution settings: they “suggest” that I reset it to suit them – of course I will, I only have these settings to annoy people, not because I need them.

I used my separate Yahoo link, and that gave me the Classic view: also restored My Yahoo, which the new one had wiped – I have stacks of podcast downloads set, mostly from the BBC, and I’d have hated to try to remember them all and find them again!

I found an email from Tech Republic and followed it to your response: I had the link anyway, but thought I’d see what Yahoo did when I did something in it.

So far I’ve opened, read, deleted emails, gone to My Yahoo and back, and Classic has stayed put. I Refreshed to see what would happen; that ought to make it flip, if it were going to.

Seems I have a patch, not sure how temporary! But I’m going to try Opera anyway; fed up with constantly being told that my IE is out of date – especially as the only way I can update it is to move to Windows 7, which I have no intention of doing (tried it, took more than two hours just to [try to] get the display set to be any use to me, then gave up and went back to XP. Doubt that 8 will be any disabled-friendlier)

So I’ll see how long this patch works while I’m sorting out Opera and learning a new way of doing things.

Thanks again!

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by franl155 In reply to If my workaround doesn't ...

so much for that patch! fallen through already. so it's Opera time

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by franl155 In reply to If my workaround doesn't ...

ps: just checked cookies: can you belive that, only maybe twenty minutes after emptying it, there's nearly a thosand back already?? and, of course, the Yahoo ones refuse to be deleted. so it's definitely Opera time!

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