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    by walse001 ·

    I need a program that will allow me to remotely track the internet sites visited by IP address. A student at my school wants his own personal laptop connected, but I need to know what internet sites he visits (For Duty of care). Is there a program I can use to track the websites visited by a specific IP?

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    • #2555730

      Clarifications

      by walse001 ·

      In reply to IP History

      Clarifications

    • #2555728

      I’d be more likely to answer you if …

      by older mycroft ·

      In reply to IP History

      You weren’t so secretive as to your own whereabouts. 😉

      • #2555726

        Sorry, My auto fill was incorrect…

        by walse001 ·

        In reply to I’d be more likely to answer you if …

        Sorry about that, I didn’t even realise! My Auto-complete is wrong… Don’t know why seamonkey includes those defaults…

    • #2555711

      sounds like micro managing to me

      by jdclyde ·

      In reply to IP History

      if you don’t trust the kid, don’t give them access.

      I am sure you have filters for your web traffic if your a school, that block access to “bad” sites, and that should be enough.

      what is a valid reason to know EVERYWHERE the kid goes?

      • #2555706

        Great bald minds think alike ! …

        by older mycroft ·

        In reply to sounds like micro managing to me

        As the saying goes, or at least it should.

        Whatever happened to the innocence of youth, and education broadening the mind.

        Big Brother is all around. Woo-Hoo-… 😉

        • #2555651

          It’s a whole new world…..

          by robo_dev ·

          In reply to Great bald minds think alike ! …

          Not to get off on a rant, but:

          //begin rant//

          I wish we could say that today’s youth are safe from predators, but they are not.

          The ‘free and open’ communication paths that make the Internet such a powerful tool for the average user also allow these predators into the home, even the bedrooms of our children.

          Sadly, many parents don’t know an ‘IM’ from an M&M and their kids are probably chatting with some other “teen” online, whilst the parents feel all snug and secure because they spent $39.95 for NetNanny or some similarly useless filtering tool.

          (This “teen”, of course, was a teen back in the 1960s).

          So I argue that there is no such thing as being too vigilant with respect to the online threats facing today’s youth.

          Big Brother? You bet.

          //end rant//

        • #2555638

          There were predators back in the 1960’s too, but …

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to It’s a whole new world…..

          They didn’t have computers.

          They did however have their preferred method of approach, even back then.

          They were also dealt with back then.

          IMHO it’s not the fault of ‘Net access, or computers – it’s the fault of the Law of the Land, which needs to be refined to bring about heavier sentences to deter these weirdos.

        • #2555595

          Back in the day,

          by tonythetiger ·

          In reply to There were predators back in the 1960’s too, but …

          it was rare that one of these perps even made it to booking, let alone be sentenced 🙂

        • #2555576

          Or were there fewer of them??

          by robo_dev ·

          In reply to Back in the day,

          Sorry to open this Pandora’s box of discussion…

        • #2555564

          Well they probably

          by dumphrey ·

          In reply to Or were there fewer of them??

          met with some form of “accident” while in transit or jail.

        • #2574727

          Our current ‘Ambulance Chasing’ mentality …

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to Or were there fewer of them??

          Is mostly to blame.

          Don’t get me wrong, I am not insensitive to the predicament faced by parents these days. I myself am childless but have enjoyed witnessing my nephews and nieces grow up.

          I reckon there is [b]ONE[/b] salient point here:

          1. Information is both more freely available AND much more instant these days. You can now witness live coverage of a news event as it happens in some cases.

          I reckon there are [b]TWO[/b] salient points here:

          1. Information is both more freely available AND much more instant these days. You can now witness live coverage of a news event as it happens in some cases.

          2. We currently live in a society that promotes the claiming of compensation at the slightest hint of responsibility for an accident or wrong-doing. “Did you have an accident at work? Call …….”

          I reckon there are [b]THREE[/b] salient points here:

          1. Information is both more freely available AND much more instant these days. You can now witness live coverage of a news event as it happens in some cases.

          2. We currently live in a society that promotes the claiming of compensation at the slightest hint of responsibility for an accident or wrong-doing. “Did you have an accident at work? Call …….”

          3. We now have instances of prisoners in gaol [i]going on strike[/i], protesting at not having access to the internet! This is nonsensical when a proportion of them are serving sentences for paedophilia-related crimes. It is though, somehow accepted.

          I reckon there are [b]FOUR[/b] salient points here:

          1. Information is both more freely available AND much more instant these days. You can now witness live coverage of a news event as it happens in some cases.

          2. We currently live in a society that promotes the claiming of compensation at the slightest hint of responsibility for an accident or wrong-doing. “Did you have an accident at work? Call …….”

          3. We now have instances of prisoners in gaol [i]going on strike[/i], protesting at not having access to the internet! This is nonsensical when a proportion of them are serving sentences for pedophilia-related crimes. It is though, somehow accepted.

          4. Due to points 1, 2, and 3 we now don’t realise that in the old days things were exactly the same – it’s really just that we didn’t hear about it quite as much, or indeed quite as quickly, and the ‘system’ had ways of dealing with it [i]before it became public knowledge[/i], without any perv shouting ‘brutality’ and claiming compensation.

          :::::
          :::::

          On reflection I reckon we don’t live in an ‘Ambulance Chasing’ society, I reckon we live in a ‘Spanish Inquisition Society’: as we strive to develop our technologies, better our lives, create an easier existence for all (well, all of the developed world!), we consequently also witness the seedier side of life at first hand and accept it, or fight against it secretly accepting that it is an insurmountable opponent.

          Personally I reckon I’m happy to be the age that I currently am – at least I won’t be around by the time this brave new world has gone to hell in a hand-basket.

          …Just my opinion, mind. 😉

    • #2555707

      eBlaster

      by robo_dev ·

      In reply to IP History

      This software works very very well. Have used it extensively.

      http://www.spectorsoft.com

      • #2555702

        He’d have to covertly install it first ! That’s almost …

        by older mycroft ·

        In reply to eBlaster

        Certainly illegal!

        The kid’s not gonna openly allow the program to be installed on his own laptop.

        If I caught someone doin’ that to my laptop I’d ask them to “pick a window” …coz they were leaving!

        • #2555661

          No sneakiness required.

          by robo_dev ·

          In reply to He’d have to covertly install it first ! That’s almost …

          The case here is that the admin has to be able to track what sites the user goes to. He can tell the user that he has to install software to do that.

          Many organizations have a policy that all network and email usage is subject to monitoring, and make their users aware of the policy.

          The more logical solution, obviously, is a to have a proxy server that restricts/logs all sites.

          But the user asked a more general ‘everything done on the laptop’ question…therefore eblaster is the solution.

          Technically, eblaster is very impressive. I might add that it should only be used for legal and legitimate purposes.

        • #2555652

          But this is a kid’s laptop in a school, so what happens …

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to No sneakiness required.

          When the school bell rings and the kids all go home?

          Little Johnnie goes home with his laptop and [i]everything[/i] he does on that laptop when he’s NOT at school, including family use, siblings, friends, ALL come under the scrutiny of one teacher who just wants to ‘have a look’?

          I don’t think so.

        • #2555635

          I couldn’t agree more.

          by bizzo ·

          In reply to But this is a kid’s laptop in a school, so what happens …

          I think the only option open to the OP is to refuse to allow the kid to connect his laptop to the school network.

        • #2555572

          Agreed, I retract my suggestion.

          by robo_dev ·

          In reply to I couldn’t agree more.

          Maybe just give the user a green-screen dumb terminal?

          Not much porn can be viewed with ASCII art.

        • #2555558

          Only the best of it :) NT

          by dumphrey ·

          In reply to Agreed, I retract my suggestion.

          NT

        • #2576067

          The C64 had ‘Strip Poker’ and the images were ASCII…

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to Agreed, I retract my suggestion.

          Mind you, back in 1983 that was ground-breaking!

          Ohhh… raster scans and parallax scrolling 😉

        • #2555560

          I agree Bizo

          by dumphrey ·

          In reply to I couldn’t agree more.

          but only because I can se no way to cheaply and easily create an “unsafe” network for kids to use. It would have to be labeled as public, and filtered and logged at the gateway by a transparent proxy… at the minimum. But the teacher has no right to install anything on the laptop. Also, by allowing this one boy to attach his laptop, he will have to allow anyone else to as well, or else he is showing favoritism. And that means a whole new bag of security worms.
          A school admin has a lot of pressure to filter content and track access for legal COA grounds for the school (and the admin). And on that ground alone I would refuse to allow private computers.

        • #2555641

          It’s just a computer

          by plipo ·

          In reply to He’d have to covertly install it first ! That’s almost …

          I am protective of my laptop as well but I would not go as far as homicide to protect it.
          I’ll search for a freeware app that can do the job.
          I’m sure I’ve used a similar tooling the past with the express intention of education of course.

        • #2555636

          Homicide ? I only meant eject from the premises. :)

          by older mycroft ·

          In reply to It’s just a computer

          .

    • #2888340

      some advice

      by susanal ·

      In reply to IP History

      You must certainly use a remote spy software, it can be installed remotely install the monitoring software on any computer you own and access the activity logs from anywhere at any time via your own personal Remote Spy Software Webspace!
      http://www.remote-pc-spy.com/

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