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October 28, 2012 at 2:00 am #2171589
java is best open source technology
Lockedby infoprism · about 11 years, 5 months ago
java is more easy to customize
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October 28, 2012 at 2:08 am #2434356
last I heard Java was still proprietary and owned by SUN
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to java is best open source technology
it also wastes huge amounts of bandwidth when used on a web page – which is often done when it shouldn’t be.
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October 29, 2012 at 8:04 am #2434297
java is propietary?
by tomgilkey · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to last I heard Java was still proprietary and owned by SUN
I agree that JAVA is owned by Sun (now Oracle)but as I look at how the java community works, it does not seem to be used by Oracle to make life difficult for competitors. It is easier than most to write portable code and there is a lot of reusable code available out there. Also if bandwidth utilization were the most important issue, we would still be using bisync and 3270’s.
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October 29, 2012 at 8:36 am #2434294
Yes, Java is proprietary, it’s owned and fully patented and copyrighted
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to java is propietary?
yes, they’ve allowed people to use it without restriction, so far; but at any time they can lower the boom and make you pay.
Bandwidth may not be an issue in the USA, but most other countries you pay for ALL your download and upload by the megabyte – so it’s an issue for most of the world.
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October 28, 2012 at 3:44 am #2434353
We must be having a language difficulty of another kind
by tony hopkinson · about 11 years, 5 months ago
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How do you customise Java?
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October 28, 2012 at 4:42 am #2434349
well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to We must be having a language difficulty of another kind
sorry, just a little coffee related humour.
I suspect they meant you can use the java code to customise what you do with it.
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October 28, 2012 at 8:08 am #2434337
I usually have mine black…
by Wizard57M-TR · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it
but everynow and again I’ll throw a dash of sugar in the cup! [_]3
Now, in regards to the OP…it was my wish some 15 years ago or so
that Java be allowed to die, for the most part I still have little use for
the programming language known as Java. Outside of only a few
very specialized uses, I don’t encounter Java too often…even though
it is used in Android phones, some routers and a few other electronics.
It probably could be replaced with a lighter programming environment
if programmers put their minds to it rather than just “cut and paste”
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October 28, 2012 at 8:53 am #2434333
what agros me about the program language called java is so many
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to I usually have mine black…
of the drag and drop web page designing programs use it to create the web pages and web site – thus a lot of them end up with several megabytes of java code instead of several kilobytes of html. Meaning a lot of wasted bandwidth, ling time to download, and the web sites are usually pretty looking garbage that doesn’t work too well.
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October 29, 2012 at 12:41 pm #2434287
What frosts my shorts
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to what agros me about the program language called java is so many
is the constant nagging to upgrade the client piece. Doing so required local Admin, something I refuse to give my users on an ‘across the board’ basis.
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October 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm #2434286
Doesn’t even work for me :(
by slayer_ · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to What frosts my shorts
It keeps wanting to update, I accept the UAC and it says failed.
Worthless junk…
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Just decided to let it try again, this time it popped up saying your already updated.
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October 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm #2434322
Ah so you can program with it?
by tony hopkinson · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it
A programming language you can program with, a unique and novel aspect that sets Java apart from other languages you can do that with…
Can’t be that, it would make the OP a total F***wit…
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October 28, 2012 at 5:43 pm #2434316
no disagreement from me on that one -nt
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to Ah so you can program with it?
nt
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October 28, 2012 at 6:35 pm #2434315
Deadly Menace
by lehnerus2000 · about 11 years, 5 months ago
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I regularly see Security Advisories stating that a new flaw has been found in Java.
IIRC, Java is more of a menace to Windows users than Flash is!
It takes a lot of effort to “outperform” Adobe.They also suggest that it is an “equal opportunity destroyer”.
It doesn’t care which OS it screws up.-
October 28, 2012 at 8:49 pm #2434313
That’s correct…
by Wizard57M-TR · about 11 years, 5 months ago
In reply to Deadly Menace
malware authors can write their malware once and run it anywhere that
a Java virtual machine is installed.
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October 29, 2012 at 7:10 am #2434299
Bait
by tmuhlen · about 11 years, 5 months ago
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It’s obvious that this is just troll baiting… the comments show that the argument or ‘polling’ that is taking place in this discussion are for the ignorant. Java is a tool. Works great if you know anything about OO design or implementation, especially in enterprise computing. The number of ‘malware’ issues that have come up have been purely FUD and Fodder for those who won’t step out of their box. The only Java malware incident is because of browser plug-ins, it has nothing to do with enterprise, desktop, or even mobile Java. How many Security Advisories have been out for MS? … Thousands. It’s ironic, but I’ll side with IBM, Oracle, Google, Apple, Red Had, Ubuntu and many other companies about open standards AND open source implementations.
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October 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm #2433187
Seems to have hooked you as well….
by tony hopkinson · about 11 years, 5 months ago
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None of the posters is against open source as far as I’m aware least of all me. “Java is the best opens source technology” now that I have a problem with.
Especially with no definition of best and knowing at least enough that anyone who believes a tool is good for everything is at best too incompetent for their opinion to have any value.
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November 3, 2012 at 6:18 pm #2432983
Here we go again
by lehnerus2000 · about 11 years, 4 months ago
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More Multi-platform Java related chaos
http://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/new-multiplatform-backdoor-jacksbot-discovered/
http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/jacksbot-has-some-dirty-tricks-up-its-sleeves/
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/10/31/jacksbot-java-malware-can-take-control-of-windows-mac-and-linux-systems/Kaspersky’s Top10
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2012/11/02/microsofts-security-team-is-killing-it-not-one-product-on-kasperskys-top-10-vulnerabilities-list/
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