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    java is best open source technology

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    by infoprism ·

    java is more easy to customize

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    • #2434356

      last I heard Java was still proprietary and owned by SUN

      by deadly ernest ·

      In reply to java is best open source technology

      it also wastes huge amounts of bandwidth when used on a web page – which is often done when it shouldn’t be.

      • #2434297

        java is propietary?

        by tomgilkey ·

        In reply to last I heard Java was still proprietary and owned by SUN

        I agree that JAVA is owned by Sun (now Oracle)but as I look at how the java community works, it does not seem to be used by Oracle to make life difficult for competitors. It is easier than most to write portable code and there is a lot of reusable code available out there. Also if bandwidth utilization were the most important issue, we would still be using bisync and 3270’s.

        • #2434294

          Yes, Java is proprietary, it’s owned and fully patented and copyrighted

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to java is propietary?

          yes, they’ve allowed people to use it without restriction, so far; but at any time they can lower the boom and make you pay.

          Bandwidth may not be an issue in the USA, but most other countries you pay for ALL your download and upload by the megabyte – so it’s an issue for most of the world.

    • #2434353

      We must be having a language difficulty of another kind

      by tony hopkinson ·

      In reply to java is best open source technology

      How do you customise Java?

      • #2434349

        well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it

        by deadly ernest ·

        In reply to We must be having a language difficulty of another kind

        sorry, just a little coffee related humour.

        I suspect they meant you can use the java code to customise what you do with it.

        • #2434337
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          I usually have mine black…

          by Wizard57M-TR ·

          In reply to well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it

          but everynow and again I’ll throw a dash of sugar in the cup! [_]3
          Now, in regards to the OP…it was my wish some 15 years ago or so
          that Java be allowed to die, for the most part I still have little use for
          the programming language known as Java. Outside of only a few
          very specialized uses, I don’t encounter Java too often…even though
          it is used in Android phones, some routers and a few other electronics.
          It probably could be replaced with a lighter programming environment
          if programmers put their minds to it rather than just “cut and paste”
          from other projects.

        • #2434333

          what agros me about the program language called java is so many

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to I usually have mine black…

          of the drag and drop web page designing programs use it to create the web pages and web site – thus a lot of them end up with several megabytes of java code instead of several kilobytes of html. Meaning a lot of wasted bandwidth, ling time to download, and the web sites are usually pretty looking garbage that doesn’t work too well.

        • #2434287

          What frosts my shorts

          by charliespencer ·

          In reply to what agros me about the program language called java is so many

          is the constant nagging to upgrade the client piece. Doing so required local Admin, something I refuse to give my users on an ‘across the board’ basis.

        • #2434286

          Doesn’t even work for me :(

          by slayer_ ·

          In reply to What frosts my shorts

          It keeps wanting to update, I accept the UAC and it says failed.

          Worthless junk…

          -Edit
          Just decided to let it try again, this time it popped up saying your already updated.
          THEN WHY DID YOU WANT TO UPDATE!?

        • #2434322

          Ah so you can program with it?

          by tony hopkinson ·

          In reply to well, one local shop uses special liquers and creams while making it

          A programming language you can program with, a unique and novel aspect that sets Java apart from other languages you can do that with…

          Can’t be that, it would make the OP a total F***wit…

        • #2434316

          no disagreement from me on that one -nt

          by deadly ernest ·

          In reply to Ah so you can program with it?

          nt

    • #2434315

      Deadly Menace

      by lehnerus2000 ·

      In reply to java is best open source technology

      I regularly see Security Advisories stating that a new flaw has been found in Java.

      IIRC, Java is more of a menace to Windows users than Flash is!
      It takes a lot of effort to “outperform” Adobe.

      They also suggest that it is an “equal opportunity destroyer”.
      It doesn’t care which OS it screws up.

      • #2434313
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        That’s correct…

        by Wizard57M-TR ·

        In reply to Deadly Menace

        malware authors can write their malware once and run it anywhere that
        a Java virtual machine is installed.

    • #2434299

      Bait

      by tmuhlen ·

      In reply to java is best open source technology

      It’s obvious that this is just troll baiting… the comments show that the argument or ‘polling’ that is taking place in this discussion are for the ignorant. Java is a tool. Works great if you know anything about OO design or implementation, especially in enterprise computing. The number of ‘malware’ issues that have come up have been purely FUD and Fodder for those who won’t step out of their box. The only Java malware incident is because of browser plug-ins, it has nothing to do with enterprise, desktop, or even mobile Java. How many Security Advisories have been out for MS? … Thousands. It’s ironic, but I’ll side with IBM, Oracle, Google, Apple, Red Had, Ubuntu and many other companies about open standards AND open source implementations.

      • #2433187

        Seems to have hooked you as well….

        by tony hopkinson ·

        In reply to Bait

        None of the posters is against open source as far as I’m aware least of all me. “Java is the best opens source technology” now that I have a problem with.
        Especially with no definition of best and knowing at least enough that anyone who believes a tool is good for everything is at best too incompetent for their opinion to have any value.

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