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MCDST is Microsoft for real?

By rr-travis ·
I was looking at the Microsoft site today and came across the requirements for the Microsoft certified desktop support Tech. I see that they replicated the information needed for your client operating system exams (70-210 ect) and add another test for basic support of MS office.

Who would hire someone with this cert and why? Really is Microsoft so desparate to increase profits that they will create such a worthless cert? The A+ exam covers support of windows O/S and most home users can install and configure Office isnt this just overkill? And how will this effect those of us with higher level certs from Microsoft. Will these exams count for your MSCA/MCSE and therefore devaluate the cert?

Maybe I'm going overboard and dont fully understand the market's needs but I think this cert is a real joke.

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$$$$$$$$$

by djent In reply to MCDST is Microsoft for re ...

Certs are a cash cow. Any other questions?

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CERTS NOT WORTH A CENT WITHOUT A COMPANY TO HIRE YOU

by kphillips In reply to $$$$$$$$$

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN, I SEE ALOT OF PEOPLE WITH CERTS WITHOUT A JOB. I HAVE SEARCHED ON COMPUTER JOB ONLINE, AND THEY ARE FULL OF CERTIFIED PEOPLE THAT CANNOT FIND JOBS...MY OPINION IS THAT MAINLY COMPANIES THAT NEED IT PERSONNEL DONT PAY CRAP AND NO ONE WANTS TO WORK FOR PENNIES INSTEAD OF DOLLARS! I REALLY DONT NEED CERTS. I NEED A PSYCHOLOGIST TO HELP ME GET MY MANAGEMENT TO REALIZE HOW STUPID THEY ARE FOR NOT REALIZING THE POTENTIAL THEY HAVE WITH ME AS AN EMPLOYEE...AND NOT COMPENSATING ME FOR MY ABILTIES. SAME OLD STORY, AS LONG AS THE SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING, THEY DONT SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, THEY THINK IT JUST RUNS BY ITSELF!
K.PHILLIPS

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Help in Job Market and with Current Employer

by Grover99 In reply to CERTS NOT WORTH A CENT WI ...

What would also help you is to fully develop other skills, such as learning to use proper sentences, capital letters and punctuation. Your communication skills are what makes the impression at the interview, what gets your r?sum? past HR and on to the next level of review, and what sets you apart from the other propellor-heads on a day-to-day basis once you have the job.

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All about selling yourself

by zackp In reply to Help in Job Market and wi ...

I totaly agree with most of your post. Certifications do not mean you know any more then someone with out certs. It just means that you have drive and are willing to go the extra step. All certs do I believe is get you an interview. The rest is on you and how you sell yourself.

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totally Agree

by rob.lay In reply to All about selling yoursel ...

I totally agree, i think certs are very valuable if your at the start of your career, I think they play a part in giving you some background konwledge and allow you to make better decisions as you get more experience but it takes a long time to get enough experience for people to look at employing you on experience alone, till that point certs play an important part in getting you onto the short lists for jobs, once thats done then I agree, its down to the individual to sell themselves

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Without a cert you're going nowhere

by kirk, really! In reply to CERTS NOT WORTH A CENT WI ...

I put off getting certified for years, then one day I found myself laid off. I have sent over 300 resumes out to company looking for Systems or Network Engineers, but without a Microsoft, Cisco or other certification most of the time you won't even get a reply. Location means a lot also. Some areas of the U.S. can't get enough certified engineers, but they are not budging from their 'must be certified' position.

I finally decided on a change of career and got out of the computer business altogether. I havn't worked late nights or weekend since I changed. I love it.

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Not really....

by Timbo Zimbabwe In reply to Without a cert you're goi ...

I haven't certified for ANYTHING and am able to get plenty of IT work. Of course, having 15 years of stable, verifiable work experience/history haven't hurt me, either....

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he said...

by xalorous In reply to Not really....

beginning of career. I am mid career. Four and a half years supporting NT4 domains, servers and workstations of almost all versions of Windows.

I've been laid off for 11 months now (2 months getting reaclimated to being in the States, 3 months helping my wife get over medical problem, 6 months looking for junior windows administrator position.)

It is a predictable pattern. I send the resume. 90% of the time I never hear anything about it unless I call them back, then usually 'sorry position filled' or 'your qualifications did not meet our requirements, we'll file your resume'. If I do hear from them, the recruiter or HR person calls/emails me and we discuss my experience. Being truthful, I say, "No, I do not have paid experience with Active Directory." Or, "No I do not have my MCSE."

So what do I do? After 5 months looking for that mythical junior sysadmin position (which I can do, no problem, no doubt in my mind), I have given up, changing to desktop support, which I am overqualified for, but I can't eat my computers and neither can my family.

Now I am considering getting an MCSE and heading back to the SysAdmin jobs, because even senior desktop support analysts do not make enough money to keep a family happy.

I have one problem that keeps me from getting a job. I am not good at selling myself. I hate it.

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Just curious what did you change your career to?

by lsmith1989 In reply to Without a cert you're goi ...

Just curious what did you change your career to? I'm in the middle of an early mid-life crisis and am not sure if I want to stay in IT or not. It just isn't satisfying to me anymore and I dont have any passion left in me. Yet I have a wife and 2 kids. The wife does not make a whole lot and I feel it is my duty to stay at this decent paying job even though I hate it.

Should I self-sacrifice and bear and grin it for my family's sake or does it seem selfish of me to take a huge paycut and look for something that I enjoy doing?

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rude post

by xalorous In reply to CERTS NOT WORTH A CENT WI ...

Take the caps lock off, I didn't even read the post. I refuse to try to decipher it. Not so bad with fixed font, but that's atrocious.

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