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The MCSE credential is one of the most widely recognized technical certifications in the high-tech industry. Here you can talk about MCSE certification, post information about MCSE salary scale, and other issues.

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What's a realistic timeframe to MCSE?

by Sauna In reply to MCSE

I'm an ad hoc netadmin at work, and have decided to pursue MCSE for a couple of reasons: Better knowledge, and better pay.

I see week-long classes for each core exam, I see bootcamps, I see books and study guides, CD curiculum, Online classes, and even college/university programs. They all have their pros/cons. I am probably going to attempt a self-study approach at first, and we'll see what happens. Instead of dishing out $6,000-$10,000 for classes, I'm getting some decent MCSE-cert. training books, and spending about $1500 on a test system.

What is going to be a realistic timeframe to complete the 7 exams? I know that is going to depend totally on how much time you spend studying and your abilities (fry-cooks need not apply). I'mvery bright and understand computer concepts very well. I'm already lightly versed in setting up DHCP, DNS, IP addressing, Windows setup, config, and maintainence, etc... But I'm working 40hrs/wk plus have a family of 5, so I'm just planning a realistic timeframe to get certified. I know that this question is extremely specific and focused on me more then MCSE, but there are alot of folks out there that ask the same questions. Many of you did. Is 6 mos. too aggressive? How about a year? Maybe 3mos.?

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I'm beat but not defeated

by mellofello In reply to What's a realistic timefr ...

I think a realistic time frame depends on you and your motivation to learn something exciting and challenging. I'm 24 and I go to two schools, one for electrical engineering and the other for my MCSE. Being at both schools and traveling back and forth takes alot out of me, but I say the struggle is worth it. I've been in the program for about 6 months now and am on my third certification. It took me two times each core section to pass the test. These are your biggest setbacks at $100 a pop. It happens to all MCSE's at least once or twice because of the challenge. "But, don't let it discourage you", is what my instructor told me. Try again and make sure you KNOW your stuff.
So, how long would it take - it depends on you and your understanding and will to learn this stuff. But, diligent work will pay off in this training.

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transition: chemist to MCSE

by de_lyn In reply to I'm beat but not defeated

I want to begin a career in IT. I am a very quick learner, but have very limited knowledge of the IT field. I'm a chemist now, and want to make the transition soon. What do you suggest? Should I begin at a help desk? What do you think the firststep should be in entering the IT world?

Kimist.

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Go for a lab job

by aonwell In reply to transition: chemist to MC ...

First I'm assuming that you have no background in a production environment. For a beginner, I'd stay away from the help
desk and opt for a job in a test lab. Taking the training is a great start but now you need practice. You won't get that sittingin a chair resetting passwords.After a year, get a position on a application development team.

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take classes

by Microhard In reply to transition: chemist to MC ...

I think you should take classes...

In 6 months (50 hours per week) you will get your MCSE credential (you need to pass 7 tests)

note: you don't need to have previous work experience in IT. I don't even know why 'microsoft.com' posted "1 year of experience" as a requirement for MCSE candidates. Once you get into college (training) you will start learning from 'basics' through 'advanced' and finaly you will become 'expert'.

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Chemist to MCSE

by ken In reply to transition: chemist to MC ...

What I find very amazing about this is the number of folks who leave the sciences to go to an IT career. I hold a B.S. in Micro/Molecular Biology and have made the leap. I know of at least 10 others with science backgrounds who have done same thing, some into programing, some into SysAdmin. I know of five more who want to make the same change. So Chemist, go for it. Poke and play learn with the machines, keep your ears open for oportunties and never forget your analytical skills.

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I agree with you mellofello@hotmail.com

by Microhard In reply to I'm beat but not defeated

yes, you are right mellofello@hotmail.com

As you said: "it depends on you and your understanding and will to learn this stuff. But, diligent work will pay off in this training"

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6 months is a 'reasonable time'

by Microhard In reply to What's a realistic timefr ...

You have a very good experience (DHCP, DNS, IP, etc), so I will say: '6 months' (10 hours/week).

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Time for MCSE

by gbworld In reply to What's a realistic timefr ...

I completed in 4 months under NT 4.0. I was regularly admining servers at the time and had access to both Workstation and Server at both home and work. Even so, this is an aggresive schedule, unless you are looking at a paper cert.

Realistically 6 mos is not extremely aggressive, but it depends on quite a few factors:

1. How fast do you learn?
2. How well do you retain things?
3. How much time do you have set aside to do your MCSE studying?

Realistically, I would aim for the year., but you may find this is a bit conservative as you get into it. Also, get some form of practice tests, at least for your first exam. Your family size is a big factor here as it will eat into study time.

Gregory A. Beamer
MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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Questionable

by Dylan Teo In reply to MCSE

I am one person do not believe in certification, I believe in hands on experience. Many MCSE that I have met are fresh out of school but touted a certification which commanded better salary.

When there is a crisis, they don't seem to know what todo. Many of these paper tigers got through the certification through the web by donwloading answers to the questions.

I am sceptical the value of such certification if there is any value to it I don't see it.

The reason being in asia, the certification process has turned into a money spinner and has turned out more people with paper rather than skills.

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