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NTLDR missing no operating system

By cw_creativetouch ·
was given a Toshbia Satellia laptop, it has no operating system it was wiped clean when I got it. When I try to install one. The computer says it is missing the NTLDR and to press ctl alt & del. I can get into the bios. I have tryed to install windows but it starts installation and then shuts down.
It will restart, but sometimes it shuts down. How can I diaignos this problem?
I have another laptop so I am able to download what ever I need.
Can someone tell me what I need to do to correct this problem.
Or is the laptop salvagable? If not I will sell it for parts. I am not an IT tech but have some knowledge about computers. need help?
Thanks
Cathy

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Start off with the Ultimate Boot CD available free here

by OH Smeg In reply to NTLDR missing no operatin ...

http://majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html

And do some Diagnostics pay particular attention to the RAM.

Now what OS are you trying to install and what type of HDD is fitted to this unit?

If it's a SATA Drive and you are attempting to install XP you may need to make a Slipstreamed Image and include the SATA Driver as XP doesn't natively support SATA Drives.

Also if there is more than 1 RAM Module you may need to remove all but 1 RAM Module to install the OS and then when it's Installed refit any extra RAM. Timing Issues between different RAM Modules can play Havoc with Windows Installations.

Col

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by cw_creativetouch In reply to Start off with the Ultima ...

Col
I checked the cd is does work on my other laptop. the OS is Windows XP PRO until I could get it up and running to see if it can be upgraded. Ram is 512 MB DDR and only 1 chip is available. HDD 80 GB, Enhanced IDE. Don't know how to find out about the SATA Drive.But Thanks for the link will try it.
Cathy

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by cw_creativetouch In reply to Start off with the Ultima ...

I have tryed several boot programs, can't get into the ram.
I have no Os on the laptop yet. tyr to install in won't recognize the OS
Tryed reboot from Cd, still not chance it still gives me
NTLDR missing pess ctrl alt del to restart

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by OH Smeg In reply to Start off with the Ultima ...

OK if you have a IDE Drive that isn't the issue.

However the Install Media you are attempting to use what is it? Is it a Recovery Disc from another Maker or a M$ branded Install Disc.

If it's a Recovery Disc it was made for different hardware and will not work with this system, this is a very common thing to happen as the system makers cripple their Recovery Disc's to only work with their hardware.

Col

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boot order

by ARandomPenguin In reply to NTLDR missing no operatin ...

When youre attempting to do a fresh install, is the cd boot priority?
or are you hitting f9 for boot list then selecting the proper boot device.
because generally laptops have the hard drive as the primary boot and optical as the secondary.

ALSO, is the optical drive compatible with the O/S boot disk? (cd drive wont run dvd) assuming that youre probably not using the original boot disk. (what O/S btw)
corrupted boot disk
these are just a few ideas off the top of my head

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by cw_creativetouch In reply to boot order

Thanks for the info. as far as I know the OS has been deleted i have been trying to install Windows XP Pro that is what the comoputer came with to see if it can be upgraded. However I was able to get inot the bios and made sure it was bootable to the hard drive. had try the cd first but didn't work. The OS cd I have does work on my other laptop. No not hitting f9, No I don't have the originial disk.

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agree with all the above and..

by markp24 In reply to NTLDR missing no operatin ...

you state it starts the install then reboots, it does sound like it may be blue screening on the install or may have an overheat problem, (does the laptop feel overly hot when it reboots?)
for a good test, not only should run diags from ubcd (or ubcd4win) per Oh smeg, but you may want to try booting from a linux live CD (ie knoppix, ubuntu, ultimate edition 3 lite (this one works well on older hardware),, or any flavor of linux)

see if that cd boots and runs ok. then we know theres no overheat problem and probably needs a driver as also stated in a prior post.

let us know how it goes.

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The Install Disc you are using is a M$ Branded Install Disc

by OH Smeg In reply to NTLDR missing no operatin ...

And not a System Makers Recovery Disc is it?

if it's a System Makers Recovery Disc it doesn't have all of the default Drivers and so on necessary to be used successfully with other Hardware and will give you the error message that you are getting.

You may want to try using nLite to make a Slipstreamed Install Disc with the necessary Drivers but I'm not sure how well that would work as I've never tried doing it.

http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

And the directions for use are listed under Guides here

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/

Col

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NTLdr mising

by Joanne Lowery In reply to NTLDR missing no operatin ...

When you use the installer media don't just try to install into the existing partition. First delete any partition information already on the disk, then create a new partition with slightly different parameters from the original partition. Format, then install the OS.
Failing this, the Ultimate Boot CD mentioned above has tools to allow you to fix the boot loader. This CD can also be configured to boot off of USB flash drive provided your BIOS allows you to boot off alternate USB disk media.

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by cw_creativetouch In reply to NTLdr mising

can't partition it still has only get
NTLDR missing Press Ctrl, + Alt+ Del to restart
tryed several boot programs nothing works yet

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