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By SHathaway ·
Not sure if this is even possible. I want to assign permissions to a folder that will enable users to create new documents and modify existing documents but prevent them from deleting these same documents. I have played around with the permissions and I cannot get this to occur. Any help would be much appreciated.

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by rapidad In reply to Permission's Stumper

Hello, a few questions first:
1. Is this across a network? lan or wan?
2. what if any server are you running??
3. client os'es?? no's of??
4. will this folder reside locally on the client boxes or is it shared across the network??

let us know.............

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by SHathaway In reply to Permission's Stumper

1. Across a Network..WAN.
2. Currently we have a NT DC but the files reside on a Windows 2000 Advanced Server machine.

3. Windows 2000
4. Shared

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by shmaltz In reply to Permission's Stumper

On the security tab click advanced select the user that you want to deny them the delete (add them if they are not there). Click on allow full contorl, click on deny delete, and deny delete files and subfolders. This way they will have full permissions but will not be allowed to delete any files/folders once it has been created.

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by SHathaway In reply to Permission's Stumper

Tried this..Users can still delete the file.

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by erikdr In reply to Permission's Stumper

All fine, but this won't work easily with tools like MS-Word for Windows. What WinWord does when MODIFYING a document (something you definitely want to allow) is:
1. Copy document to tempfile
2. Modify tempfile
3. Either rename old document to .BAK (option) or delete immediately.
4. Rename tempfile to documentname.

And through your settings, step 3 would fail and hence the whole modification. Excel however is easier, as it works 100% in-memory and overwrites upon storing. But even with Excel sometimes tempfiles are needed and these cannot be deleted which would sooner or later crash Excel.

At your service,

<Erik> - The Netherlands

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by SHathaway In reply to Permission's Stumper

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by ShaunJanzen In reply to Permission's Stumper

What you want to do is probably not possible. The reason being if a user is able to modify a document they must have delete rights.

The reason for this is that when you save the modified document the actual operation of saving an existing document deletes the unmodified one and creates a new file with the changes you have made, although it is transparent to the user.

I do not have any documentation to back this up so if anyone out there does please let us know.

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by SHathaway In reply to Permission's Stumper

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by shmaltz In reply to Permission's Stumper

Sorry, but you are wrong. If you do what I told you they should not be able to delete. Since a deny setting is always the one setting that will prevail. I tested it and it worked for me.
When you follow my instructions make sure:
1. That you checkthe box in advanced that says: "Reset permission on all child objects"
2. Uncheck the box that says: "Allow inhertible permissions from parent to propegate" and click copy on the question it asks.

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by SHathaway In reply to Permission's Stumper

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