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Running VMWare ESX within VMWare Serer Console

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Running VMWare ESX within VMWare Serer Console

TwinkyNZ
Hi all,
I recently migrated from New Zealand to Australia.
I only have a laptop but I would like to learn how to use ESX 3.
I am using the free version of VMWare Server to run Servers and Workstation.
What I would like to do is install ESX 3 within my VMWare Server but it keeps saying that there is no SCSI disk available.
I've created the HD as SCSI in my VMWare Server Console but to no avail.

Is what I'm doing actually possible?
Am I able to create an ESX3 host within my VMWare Server Console?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Sam
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    Miyamoto Musashi

    The issue with the SCSI disk availability is within VMware itself. I am assuming you understand VMware and how the "device drivers" work. With that understanding, VMware uses "soft" device drivers to control the virtual machine "hardware". What is your host operating system? VMware ESX Server is a linux based network operating system and it is a bit picky about the hardware it is install on. If you review the HCL for ESX Server, you will find that the "soft" device driver for the HDD "hardware" is not listed. I have attempted to do what you are trying to do and eventually just gave up on it. I did figure out that if you install ESX Server then Windows (2000 or XP Professional), I could install VMware Server (free) and a virtual machine and THAT works, however, that is backward from what you are trying to attempt. Based on my experience, I do not believe what you are trying to attempt is possible, UNLESS you choose to write "compatable" device drivers for VMware Server to be used within VMware ESX Server (a daunting possibility).

    So, the short answer to your question is no, I don't believe that you would beable to create an ESX Server host within VMware Server (free).

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    gavin.jolliffe

    It's not possible to run ESX Server in VMware Server (at time of writing) but it is possible to run it in VMware Workstation 6, which is pretty affordable. Check out the whitepaper on how to do it here: http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=75&func=fileinfo&id=11. It works perfectly well - I've had multiple servers on my laptop using an iSCSI software target VM doing VMotion, HA & DRS - great infrastructure in a box!

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    TwinkyNZ

    Hi Gavin,

    Thanks for the tip.
    Does VMWare workstation 6 work the same as VMWare Server? or does it install as an actual OS?

    Regards,

    Sam

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    gavin.jolliffe

    It's an application, the same as VMware Server - I've also just released a follow up whitepaper on how to install and configure a shared storage VM within Workstation so you can demo VMotion, HA, DRS etc. You can find it in the same 'whitepapers' location on my site http://xtravirt.com

    Cheers
    Gavin

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    deepak.yadav1

    from where i can download iSCSI software target

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    gavin.jolliffe

    There are a few to choose from - IET & OpenFiler are 2 that we have written white papers about for installation/configuration. They are located at here: http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=124 under: Guide to installing VMware ESX3 on Workstation 6 - Part 2 and Part 3. They provide download paths or you can Google for them. My personal preference is IET.

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    deepak.yadav1

    Hi,

    I followed all your manual given at your site but stuck at process adding new Storage Device even after adding ISCSI Server IP in Dynamic Discover TAB. after scan says 0 targets

    ESX server 3.0.1 on IBM Think center Desktop

    ISCSI on Virtual Redhat Linux 5

    testing all this on corporate LAN with DHCP
    Please suggest.

    Thanks

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    Miyamoto Musashi

    The issue with the SCSI disk availability is within VMware itself. I am assuming you understand VMware and how the "device drivers" work. With that understanding, VMware uses "soft" device drivers to control the virtual machine "hardware". What is your host operating system? VMware ESX Server is a linux based network operating system and it is a bit picky about the hardware it is install on. If you review the HCL for ESX Server, you will find that the "soft" device driver for the HDD "hardware" is not listed. I have attempted to do what you are trying to do and eventually just gave up on it. I did figure out that if you install ESX Server then Windows (2000 or XP Professional), I could install VMware Server (free) and a virtual machine and THAT works, however, that is backward from what you are trying to attempt. Based on my experience, I do not believe what you are trying to attempt is possible, UNLESS you choose to write "compatable" device drivers for VMware Server to be used within VMware ESX Server (a daunting possibility).

    So, the short answer to your question is no, I don't believe that you would beable to create an ESX Server host within VMware Server (free).

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    gavin.jolliffe

    It's not possible to run ESX Server in VMware Server (at time of writing) but it is possible to run it in VMware Workstation 6, which is pretty affordable. Check out the whitepaper on how to do it here: http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=75&func=fileinfo&id=11. It works perfectly well - I've had multiple servers on my laptop using an iSCSI software target VM doing VMotion, HA & DRS - great infrastructure in a box!

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    TwinkyNZ

    Hi Gavin,

    Thanks for the tip.
    Does VMWare workstation 6 work the same as VMWare Server? or does it install as an actual OS?

    Regards,

    Sam

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    gavin.jolliffe

    It's an application, the same as VMware Server - I've also just released a follow up whitepaper on how to install and configure a shared storage VM within Workstation so you can demo VMotion, HA, DRS etc. You can find it in the same 'whitepapers' location on my site http://xtravirt.com

    Cheers
    Gavin

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    deepak.yadav1

    from where i can download iSCSI software target

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    gavin.jolliffe

    There are a few to choose from - IET & OpenFiler are 2 that we have written white papers about for installation/configuration. They are located at here: http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=124 under: Guide to installing VMware ESX3 on Workstation 6 - Part 2 and Part 3. They provide download paths or you can Google for them. My personal preference is IET.

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    deepak.yadav1

    Hi,

    I followed all your manual given at your site but stuck at process adding new Storage Device even after adding ISCSI Server IP in Dynamic Discover TAB. after scan says 0 targets

    ESX server 3.0.1 on IBM Think center Desktop

    ISCSI on Virtual Redhat Linux 5

    testing all this on corporate LAN with DHCP
    Please suggest.

    Thanks