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Ryder Cup

The 'G-Man.'
Europe beat the United States 14.5-13.5 to regain the Ryder Cup

Me, sitting in the home of golf all I can say is

'Put that in your Pipe and smoke it Yanks!'

:-) :-) :-) :-)
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    tcavadias Staff

    ..especially in that last match. <whew>

    -Tammy [_]3

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    Yep

    The 'G-Man.'

    but now it's time to bask in the glory!!

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    Oz_Media

    Would you looook at THAT then laddie! She went right in't cup!

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Cups hand to ear (-

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    Discovering you're the only one who cares...

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    JamesRL

    ...wether or not Tiger would play.

    He has been the anchor in years past, and now to be at the level where you might not play? Thats a big change.

    But as for the game itself? Naaah

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    AnsuGisalas

    Self-medicating, perhaps.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    handy!

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    The 'G-Man.'

    for the losing side....

    A playground "we did not care anyway"

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    JamesRL

    No one in North America cares about the Ryder or Davis cups in the same way they would care about say the British open or Wimbeldon.

    For tennis and golf, they focus on stars, not teams.

    I used to get free tickets for some of the big tennis matches in Toronto because I worked for one of the sponsors. You couldn't move for all the people packed in for the big singles matches, even the preliminary rounds. But doubles, well the place was only half full.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    but it is always packed out for the Ryder when it is played + 40,000 a day.

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    JamesRL

    But it would be interesting to see how many American tourists would go to that as opposed to say, the British Open.

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    CharlieSpencer

    Outside of golf fans, I'll be the only team member most Americans could name is Tiger. That's not only the only name they could come up with, it's probably the only fact. We couldn't tell you a single European team member, where it was played, anything about the format other than it isn't the same as the tournaments we usually watch. Half would be lucky to identify it with golf and not get it confused with tennis' Davis Cup.

    Sorry, it's just not on our radar, any more than that international basketball tournament that just ended.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Given the attendance when it is held in the USA.

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    CharlieSpencer

    "Outside of golf fans,..."

    Then there are always those people who will show up for an event even if they don't know anything about it. The Indianapolis 500, the Kentucky Derby, and the NFL's Super Bowl leap to mind. Many of those in attendance are just there for the party and couldn't tell a golf cart from a race car. or a thoroughbred from a running back.

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    Shellbot

    on tha basis that all i dang well heard about on the radio this morning was the ryder cup!!!!

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    What you where listening to had nothing at all to do with GOLF.

    It was an mistaken Irish report about horse riding. They mistook Ryder Cup as the Rider Cup that the channel was sponsoring. Their Rider Cup was for domestic Pony Club participation only.

    You know a bit like the Yanks who have the World Series when only they compete.

    Col

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    Oz_Media

    Yeah, I was thinking something along those lines yesterday too. Nice to get it back!

    The things is, it's never like one side gets slaughtered by the absolute superiority of the other, it's much like The Olympics, where all the athletes are very closely matched and just one slip or one lucky move takes the day.

    Was a good tournament though.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    the look on the Yanks faces was priceless.

    That's what they get for pre whooping and dancing on the green a few years ago!

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    maxwell edison

    I've always loved golf. I actually grew up with golf, watching and learning the game on some of the best golf courses with some of the best players, not because I came from a wealthy background that afforded me such an opportunity, but rather because I worked for those who did. I was a caddy for quite a number of years. Seven or eight years, I imagine; and as a benefit, I also got to play the game on those very same courses.

    Over that time as a caddy, I shagged golf balls and carried the bags of many players, including one particular player (before he turned pro) everyone in these threads would recognize as one of the best the game has ever produced. He's also regarded as one of the class-acts of the game. A real gentleman playing a gentleman's game. Just as gracious in victory as he was in defeat. And he experienced both victory and defeat in quite a number of Ryder Cup matches himself.

    And those are also the kinds of people from whom he learned to play the game, including, but not limited to, his father, also a pretty good player, and another in the golf professional at his home course, both of whom I fondly remember in the same way: not only good players themselves, but gentlemen, gracious, and class-acts.

    That's the game of golf I learned. That's the game of golf I play. And that's the game of golf I recognize - the epitome of sportsmanship.

    The image of the game you painted in your brief message is foreign to me. As such, I'm not quite sure how to comment, other than to say this to the players on the course. Well done, well played, and congratulations.

    P.S. Golf doesn't build character, it reveals it.

    (Edit: fix typos)

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    CharlieSpencer

    I don't play, but it's always a great walk (they take the carts, I don't) and I help them find errant balls. Not long ago, one of them got married (one of my bro's, not one of the balls) and she tagged along one day. Around the sixth hole, she turned to me and said, "This isn't about golf, is it? This is about them hanging out together, applauding each other or giving each other a hard time." Hole in one, Sis.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    that after the last cup in the USA where so called players & fans were running on the green before the last put was missed to lose this response complete valid.

    I suggest you check this fact out.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that you replied to something I didn't write, suggest, or otherwise or comment on.

    I suggest you check this fact out.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    I showed that it was lacking last time around.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that I know - or knew - and the one that I recognize. I never suggested that it only existed on one side of the Atlantic Ocean and not the other.

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    maxwell edison

    For one who's been a fan and follower of professional golf since the early 1960s, and who's seen the dramatic changes in the fan-base and what's it's done to the game of golf, I'm not sure I'm crazy about the increased popularity of the sport if that's the kind of fans it attracts.

    What type of fan is that, you might ask?

    Well, it's the type that runs onto the putting surface before the last put is missed, or the type that gloats in victory with in your face ungracious comments.

    (And also the type that always yells IN THE HOLE the split second after a player hits his shot! What the he!! is that all about?)

    Geesh, before long they'll be burning cars and rioting in the street because some guy won a golf match!

    And quite frankly, I don't care where they're from. I'm still not crazy about it.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    after those fans did their green trampling and taunting last time around.

    Remember BE THE BALL!

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    Michael Jay

    Golf is the only game where you call your own fouls.

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    maxwell edison

    The golf course is also a great place to have a job interview - without even discussing business. It will reveal, in most cases, the type of person you're considering.

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    AnsuGisalas

    That was a nice play on words there. Epo-time of sportsmanship. Curls the grey cells.
    The epitome of contradiction :)

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    maxwell edison

    I hate typos.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that the UK alone could never stand a chance in he!! at beating the Americans on the links without relying on the support of players from many other European nations - about the only time the Brits support the EU - but I didn't.

    I could have suggested that the Ryder Cup, itself, was initially created as a competition between the USA and the UK, but the USA was so dominant in the challenge that it had to be changed to include the entire European continent to support the Brits in order to make it even close to competitive, but I didn't.

    I could have pointed out that their victory came with the slimmest of margins - nothing at all like the ****-out losses they've suffered in the past - but I didn't.

    I could have suggested that more Americans have won the British Open than Brits who've won the US Open, but I didn't.

    I could have challenged the G-Man to a match-play round against me for "TR bragging rights", but it just wouldn't be practical, so I didn't.

    Nonetheless, I have no problem with his basking in the glory of a rare victory. I'm content with letting him gloat when he has the chance. After all, those victories don't come around too often for the Brits.

    P.S. Posted all in fun.

    P.P.S. Lee Westwood is red hot; he's on fire. Some people, including yours truly, might even call him the best player in the world - bar none - at this particular point in time.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Point out that TWO of the last THREE cups went to the EU, but I wont.

    Point out that the captain of the EU team was Scottish, but I wont.

    Point out that matches were competitive right up until just after World War II, then the UK was not really in a state to compete.

    Point out that without good old Scotland there would be no golf to argue about, but I wont.

    All in fun, you know.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... has not only won two of the last three, as you pointed out, but also four of the last five, and six of the last eight. A pretty good run, if you ask me.

    But between the first competition in 1927, and 1985 (well after WWII), the US team's record was 21 wins, 3 losses, and 1 tie, including streaks of 7, 5, and 7 consecutive wins.

    The records speak for themselves. Until the inclusion of all players from the European Continent (in 1980) to help support the Brits, it was almost a foregone conclusion that team USA would retain the cup.

    I like it better now that it's more competitive. (But those fans that I talked about! That aspect I like a lot less.)

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    The 'G-Man.'

    for the population of the UK to compete with the population of the US given the massive gap in numbers and hence potential players.

    Yes, we have been kicking your *** the past decade or so.

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    tcavadias Staff

    ..especially in that last match. <whew>

    -Tammy [_]3

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    Yep

    The 'G-Man.'

    but now it's time to bask in the glory!!

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    Oz_Media

    Would you looook at THAT then laddie! She went right in't cup!

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Cups hand to ear (-

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    Discovering you're the only one who cares...

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    JamesRL

    ...wether or not Tiger would play.

    He has been the anchor in years past, and now to be at the level where you might not play? Thats a big change.

    But as for the game itself? Naaah

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    AnsuGisalas

    Self-medicating, perhaps.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    handy!

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    The 'G-Man.'

    for the losing side....

    A playground "we did not care anyway"

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    JamesRL

    No one in North America cares about the Ryder or Davis cups in the same way they would care about say the British open or Wimbeldon.

    For tennis and golf, they focus on stars, not teams.

    I used to get free tickets for some of the big tennis matches in Toronto because I worked for one of the sponsors. You couldn't move for all the people packed in for the big singles matches, even the preliminary rounds. But doubles, well the place was only half full.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    but it is always packed out for the Ryder when it is played + 40,000 a day.

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    JamesRL

    But it would be interesting to see how many American tourists would go to that as opposed to say, the British Open.

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    CharlieSpencer

    Outside of golf fans, I'll be the only team member most Americans could name is Tiger. That's not only the only name they could come up with, it's probably the only fact. We couldn't tell you a single European team member, where it was played, anything about the format other than it isn't the same as the tournaments we usually watch. Half would be lucky to identify it with golf and not get it confused with tennis' Davis Cup.

    Sorry, it's just not on our radar, any more than that international basketball tournament that just ended.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Given the attendance when it is held in the USA.

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    CharlieSpencer

    "Outside of golf fans,..."

    Then there are always those people who will show up for an event even if they don't know anything about it. The Indianapolis 500, the Kentucky Derby, and the NFL's Super Bowl leap to mind. Many of those in attendance are just there for the party and couldn't tell a golf cart from a race car. or a thoroughbred from a running back.

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    Shellbot

    on tha basis that all i dang well heard about on the radio this morning was the ryder cup!!!!

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    What you where listening to had nothing at all to do with GOLF.

    It was an mistaken Irish report about horse riding. They mistook Ryder Cup as the Rider Cup that the channel was sponsoring. Their Rider Cup was for domestic Pony Club participation only.

    You know a bit like the Yanks who have the World Series when only they compete.

    Col

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    Oz_Media

    Yeah, I was thinking something along those lines yesterday too. Nice to get it back!

    The things is, it's never like one side gets slaughtered by the absolute superiority of the other, it's much like The Olympics, where all the athletes are very closely matched and just one slip or one lucky move takes the day.

    Was a good tournament though.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    the look on the Yanks faces was priceless.

    That's what they get for pre whooping and dancing on the green a few years ago!

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    maxwell edison

    I've always loved golf. I actually grew up with golf, watching and learning the game on some of the best golf courses with some of the best players, not because I came from a wealthy background that afforded me such an opportunity, but rather because I worked for those who did. I was a caddy for quite a number of years. Seven or eight years, I imagine; and as a benefit, I also got to play the game on those very same courses.

    Over that time as a caddy, I shagged golf balls and carried the bags of many players, including one particular player (before he turned pro) everyone in these threads would recognize as one of the best the game has ever produced. He's also regarded as one of the class-acts of the game. A real gentleman playing a gentleman's game. Just as gracious in victory as he was in defeat. And he experienced both victory and defeat in quite a number of Ryder Cup matches himself.

    And those are also the kinds of people from whom he learned to play the game, including, but not limited to, his father, also a pretty good player, and another in the golf professional at his home course, both of whom I fondly remember in the same way: not only good players themselves, but gentlemen, gracious, and class-acts.

    That's the game of golf I learned. That's the game of golf I play. And that's the game of golf I recognize - the epitome of sportsmanship.

    The image of the game you painted in your brief message is foreign to me. As such, I'm not quite sure how to comment, other than to say this to the players on the course. Well done, well played, and congratulations.

    P.S. Golf doesn't build character, it reveals it.

    (Edit: fix typos)

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    CharlieSpencer

    I don't play, but it's always a great walk (they take the carts, I don't) and I help them find errant balls. Not long ago, one of them got married (one of my bro's, not one of the balls) and she tagged along one day. Around the sixth hole, she turned to me and said, "This isn't about golf, is it? This is about them hanging out together, applauding each other or giving each other a hard time." Hole in one, Sis.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    that after the last cup in the USA where so called players & fans were running on the green before the last put was missed to lose this response complete valid.

    I suggest you check this fact out.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that you replied to something I didn't write, suggest, or otherwise or comment on.

    I suggest you check this fact out.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    I showed that it was lacking last time around.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that I know - or knew - and the one that I recognize. I never suggested that it only existed on one side of the Atlantic Ocean and not the other.

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    maxwell edison

    For one who's been a fan and follower of professional golf since the early 1960s, and who's seen the dramatic changes in the fan-base and what's it's done to the game of golf, I'm not sure I'm crazy about the increased popularity of the sport if that's the kind of fans it attracts.

    What type of fan is that, you might ask?

    Well, it's the type that runs onto the putting surface before the last put is missed, or the type that gloats in victory with in your face ungracious comments.

    (And also the type that always yells IN THE HOLE the split second after a player hits his shot! What the he!! is that all about?)

    Geesh, before long they'll be burning cars and rioting in the street because some guy won a golf match!

    And quite frankly, I don't care where they're from. I'm still not crazy about it.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    after those fans did their green trampling and taunting last time around.

    Remember BE THE BALL!

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    Michael Jay

    Golf is the only game where you call your own fouls.

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    maxwell edison

    The golf course is also a great place to have a job interview - without even discussing business. It will reveal, in most cases, the type of person you're considering.

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    AnsuGisalas

    That was a nice play on words there. Epo-time of sportsmanship. Curls the grey cells.
    The epitome of contradiction :)

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    maxwell edison

    I hate typos.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... that the UK alone could never stand a chance in he!! at beating the Americans on the links without relying on the support of players from many other European nations - about the only time the Brits support the EU - but I didn't.

    I could have suggested that the Ryder Cup, itself, was initially created as a competition between the USA and the UK, but the USA was so dominant in the challenge that it had to be changed to include the entire European continent to support the Brits in order to make it even close to competitive, but I didn't.

    I could have pointed out that their victory came with the slimmest of margins - nothing at all like the ****-out losses they've suffered in the past - but I didn't.

    I could have suggested that more Americans have won the British Open than Brits who've won the US Open, but I didn't.

    I could have challenged the G-Man to a match-play round against me for "TR bragging rights", but it just wouldn't be practical, so I didn't.

    Nonetheless, I have no problem with his basking in the glory of a rare victory. I'm content with letting him gloat when he has the chance. After all, those victories don't come around too often for the Brits.

    P.S. Posted all in fun.

    P.P.S. Lee Westwood is red hot; he's on fire. Some people, including yours truly, might even call him the best player in the world - bar none - at this particular point in time.

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    The 'G-Man.'

    Point out that TWO of the last THREE cups went to the EU, but I wont.

    Point out that the captain of the EU team was Scottish, but I wont.

    Point out that matches were competitive right up until just after World War II, then the UK was not really in a state to compete.

    Point out that without good old Scotland there would be no golf to argue about, but I wont.

    All in fun, you know.

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    maxwell edison

    ..... has not only won two of the last three, as you pointed out, but also four of the last five, and six of the last eight. A pretty good run, if you ask me.

    But between the first competition in 1927, and 1985 (well after WWII), the US team's record was 21 wins, 3 losses, and 1 tie, including streaks of 7, 5, and 7 consecutive wins.

    The records speak for themselves. Until the inclusion of all players from the European Continent (in 1980) to help support the Brits, it was almost a foregone conclusion that team USA would retain the cup.

    I like it better now that it's more competitive. (But those fans that I talked about! That aspect I like a lot less.)

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    The 'G-Man.'

    for the population of the UK to compete with the population of the US given the massive gap in numbers and hence potential players.

    Yes, we have been kicking your *** the past decade or so.