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So, not only are CO2 emissions actually contributing to climate change

By AnsuGisalas ·
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And yes they really are...
But again, not only are they doing that, they're also increasing the acidity of the seas ... CO2 in aqueous dilution is H2CO3 : carbonic acid, like in your soda. Remember that scare experiment they showed you back in the day, where they left a milk tooth in a glass of soda overnight, and it was just gone the next day?
Turns out, same thing happens to the shells of many food-chain-starters in the seas. Entire food chains of marine life can be devastated.
Historically, when the oceans tank, they tank hard. It is well documented that marine mass extinctions can kill off almost all marine life, and have done so several times in the past.

But you know, if it's happened in the past with no human contribution, obviously we can find lots of reasons not to do anything about it now...

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The Mirror doesn't have Page Three

by neilb@uk In reply to Oh c'mon mate!

That's the SUN, one of Rupert Murdoch's rags.

I just happened across the article, nine years on, and thought it made a lot of sense.

Still do, despite you dissing the Guardian. You've been in forrin parts for too long, I think you're mixing up the Guardian and the Telegraph.

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I get the Guardian

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to The Mirror doesn't have P ...

As I work globally again now, I get papers from all over. Most I read online but I need print copies of a few too. Usually two or three days behind though. I never bothered with the Mirror, though I guess they dropped page 3 girls years ago.

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When I was last living in Britain,

by john.a.wills In reply to The Mirror doesn't have P ...

in the early 1990s, the Guardian and the Telegraph were about equally good as news purveyors, and at a higher standard than the SF Chronicle. The Guardian was somewhat socialist (it printed Doonesbury) and, as alas since the 1970s has often been associated with that standpoint, somewhat secular-inhumanist, whilst the Telegraph was somewhat conservative. Perhaps things have changed since then.

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So Maxwell when the

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to No, they're really not

Permafrost melts and the oceans rise in the next few days and causes the end of Life as we know it on December 21 2012 you'll be OK because there will be no one left to say I Told You So and you'll not be around to say Sorry will you?

I look at things this way the climate is getting hotter the sea levels are rising that is indisputable so it's in Humanities Best Interests to make sure that we stop things from getting over the top and killing us all. It really doesn't matter what is causing it to happen but in our own self interests we need to stop it if or we can or die trying.

There is currently a lot of untrapped water on the planet which was locked up in the poles during the last Ice Age where the ice was over 1 Kilometer Deep on both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres Poles. What's currently left is rapidly disappearing and we really do not want the consequences of it all disappearing or the changes that it will bring with it.

Currently if all Electricity Supplies where stopped in your country for a fortnight things would all but collapse if Global Warming causes the Food Supply to be adversely affected things would be far worse for Society as we know it and it really doesn't matter how high the Tax Rate in the US is everyone is going to be adversely affected.

Currently your country has Mass Die Offs of Old Trees which it can not explain and the Temp has only increased buy a really small amount. If it goes up three times the current increase in the next 100 years there will be nothing left and that is what is predicted without taking into account the Permafrost melting.

Col

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You say it's indisputable?

by maxwell edison In reply to So Maxwell when the

Everything you say is disputable, Colin. Everything. Just because you make an assertion, it doesn't make it true.

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Science is never indisputable

by NickNielsen In reply to You say it's indisputable ...

But when a preponderance of evidence points to a certain conclusion, only a fool ignores the evidence.

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Again, Nick is not paying attention

by maxwell edison In reply to Science is never indisput ...

I never said anything about science being disputable, indisputable, or anything in-between.

I suggested that everything Colin says is disputable.

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So perhaps an example?

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Again, Nick is not paying ...

The Temp is getting hotter.

Not in dispute with any sane person though they and you have argued why it is happening.

Ocean Levels rising

Again not in dispute because it's getting hotter.

The depth of Ice over the Poles in the last Ice Age isn't in dispute either.

So what's disputable?

If you where referring to the Comment about the end of the earth they you should listen to the AU Prime Minister who gave a speech on this issue yesterday though at the moment there is no video available but I'll post one when it does become available.

Well actually as the End of the World is Nigh I'll only be able to post the link if it is put up before the December 21 2012. After all it's not going to be possible to post after that is it?

Col :^0

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What a headwrecker that'd be!!!!

by aidemzo_adanac In reply to So perhaps an example?

What if the last post on TR was REALLY Dec.20th and the Mayan's actually WERE right? Here's us disputing global warming, presidential candidates, world affairs and politics, wars all over the world for one reason or another, but everyone shares the tongue in cheek snicker about the Mayan end of the world.

I don't think there are enough eggs in the world for everyone's faces. That would be absolutely hysterical! We focused on the wrong issue all along, and 'poof' no more mankind!

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Well as they all say

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to So perhaps an example?

If you can not laugh at things you'll go crazy.

Now I wonder if the TR Servers will survive the December 21 2012 deadline.

Col

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