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January 16, 2008 at 4:48 am #2242853
So the US Congress is out to censor the internet..again
Lockedby jaqui · about 16 years, 2 months ago
go figure, they are showing more and more signs of being a fascist state every day.
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January 16, 2008 at 6:02 am #2655580
This is only one result of a bigger problem
by joer · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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You’re right, Jaqui, this is something that should send chills down the spine of every American. But it’s only one small consequence (another one of those dreaded unintended consequences) of a much larger underlying problem.
It’s been said that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have. (The person who originally said that, by the way, lost that particular election.) And now we see an example of some people in government who want to take away the one thing that lies at the foundation of our Republic — free speech. Actually, this is only one more attempt; there have been many; some have even been successful.
For the past four decades, the growth of government influence and control over every-day American citizens has grown at an alarming rate. Unfortunately, when people make government more responsible for every-day problems, they relinquish their rights to affect the outcome. If a person gives up responsibility, then the right to determine a solution is also relinquished.
Rights and responsibilities go hand-in-hand. You can’t have one without accepting the other. Americans have been giving up both. And when they realize what they’ve really lost, it just might be too late.
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January 16, 2008 at 7:49 am #2655506
Concise and well said
by dadspad · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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Bravo!!
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January 16, 2008 at 6:24 am #2655567
I woudn’t worry about it too much.
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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The definition of “paid efforts” as “communications to 500 or more” will have the Supremes in stitches.
I notice this article doesn’t say how “stimulate grassroots lobbying” is defined. It also doesn’t mention an exemption for congressmen. Since most congressmen send mail that could be interpreted as inciting grassroots action to over 500 constituents, this would require them to register also. That ain’t gonna happen; that realization is probably why Vitter has reversed course.
As an aside, every time you post something about the U.S. government, my initial reaction is, “Why does that Canadian care?” I have to remind myself you have family on this side of the border.
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January 16, 2008 at 9:28 pm #2654970
As I posted on
by jaqui · about 16 years, 2 months ago
In reply to I woudn’t worry about it too much.
one blog, if this passes, I’ll start a blog for Americans to send me their comments and I’ll publish them, since as a Canadian the US law wouldn’t apply ]:)
might get my site banned from being seen by Americans though 😉
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January 17, 2008 at 5:28 am #2653814
Will that count?
by charliespencer · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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Aren’t you encouraging grassroots activism by encouraging others to work around U.S. law?
Never mind, I doubt there are 500 people who read your blog or TR 😀
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January 16, 2008 at 7:55 am #2655501
So,
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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How’s the IT job market in Canada?
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January 16, 2008 at 9:26 pm #2654971
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January 18, 2008 at 9:13 pm #2642964
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January 18, 2008 at 9:22 pm #2642962
3rd world nation
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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That explains the state of the roads along the Delaware.
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January 19, 2008 at 4:13 pm #2654096
What, you don’t like “quaint and picturesque?”
by deepsand · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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BTW, it’s not just those along the Delaware River that share those traits.
Personally, I find such drives eminently preferable to and so much more relaxing than those such as I-95 have to offer.
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January 16, 2008 at 9:58 pm #2654966
Hey, if it works for a good ally, like Musharraf, …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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Personally, I find it difficult to believe that such a measure would have even a glimmer of hope of surviving a challange as to its Constitutionality.
When it comes to members of Congress, I am reminded of the adage that one should hire the handicapped because they’re fun to watch.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:14 pm #2654961
hmmm.. that gives me an idea….
by jaqui · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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Maybe a collection of items about what is and isn’t appropriate for legislation, with reasons why, so we can all send it to our respective legislative bodies over and over again until they grab a brain and quit trying to make laws that are not enforceable.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:20 pm #2654960
First we need to ensure that they can, will & do read; then, …
by deepsand · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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they’ll need to be trained in the art of critical thinking.
By the time those are accomplished, we’ll need to start all over again with the freshmen.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it float on its back and blow bubbles.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:28 pm #2654954
easy
by jaqui · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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to make sure they can read, ban gui software from the schools.
make them use a command line only from the start, they will have to learn to read then. ]:)
since the pretty gui is designed to promote illiteracy.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:38 pm #2654944
Hmmm. I like that.
by deepsand · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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To that I would add:
1) No mouse or other pointing device;
2) No copy/paste function, so that they’re forced to think about what they’re typing; and,
2) Dial-up access only, and that only during limited times, so they’ll find it easier to read what’s already been presented to them rather than to quickly cruise off in search of a lighter read.
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January 16, 2008 at 10:48 pm #2654938
what?
by jaqui · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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give students internet access in class? are you nuts?
way to much distraction online, they wouldn’t pay attention in class then. make them use their outside of school time to go online. -
January 16, 2008 at 10:54 pm #2654933
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January 16, 2008 at 10:58 pm #2654928
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January 17, 2008 at 12:17 am #2654910
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January 17, 2008 at 12:39 am #2654905
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January 17, 2008 at 4:29 pm #2654444
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January 18, 2008 at 8:35 pm #2642965
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January 17, 2008 at 6:25 am #2653772
I thought the same thing about the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance bill
by joer · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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I thought it, too, would be shot down in the Supreme Court. Surprise! Surprise! It’s became a law that not only squelched a form of freedom of speech, but it actually screwed up campaign finance even more!
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January 17, 2008 at 6:51 am #2653751
Glimmer of Hope
by demosthanese · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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This thing could make it. If you read the other articles etc about that particular subject you’ll find that there is no oversite to the charitable contributions governing body. They can take funds generated for, say, the “save the snowy owl” campaign, and divert it to the “my wallet is really really fat” fund. But that is besides the point.
The scarier thing is that somone actually brought this up. Why, in America, would a congressman decide that his constituants needed silencing? And then, go about writting a proposal on how to do it! Because that congressman is up to something that he shouldnt be, know people will talk about it, and wants to throw them in jail for it! Vitter, the guy that sponsored this thing, is the same dude that got caught in the madame scandel not too long ago. You can make your own connections there, but I’ll say this: For a christian, running on a family friendly campaign, hes not really living up to his word to begin with.
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January 17, 2008 at 8:23 pm #2654412
How the h#ll else do you expect them…
by boxfiddler · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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to keep the serfs in their place? Ignorance isn’t bliss, it’s serfdom. Same damn ‘spirit’ is behind the dumbing down of the educational process, the biased media, the crap that comes out of hollywood…
”around spirit because I don’t mean any religious reference of any kind and lower case h in hollywood because there ain’t nuthin uppercase about ’em.
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January 17, 2008 at 8:30 pm #2654411
Canada becoming ‘liberal fascist’?
by dr dij · about 16 years, 2 months ago
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appears they discriminate against fat people in the socialized medicine waiting for operations, because ‘they shouldn’t have gotten fat’
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