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  • #2238356

    That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

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    by gadgetgirl ·

    [rant]

    Ok, that?s it, I?ve had enough. This was the final straw for me.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/03/05/margaret-hodge-in-too-white-proms-row-89520-20340661/

    A complaint by a MINISTER that the British Proms are TOO BRITISH.

    On the television news last night, they even complained about the flag-waving during ?Land of Hope and Glory?. [b] [i] [u] WHAT?! [/b] [/i] [/u]

    Now look. Application of common sense, please. We ARE British. Yes, we have other cultures in our midst, but we live in BRITAIN. We do not live in BritIndiPakiAfriZealandOzCanadAmericEU.

    If someone comes over here to live from another country, they must think we?re a nice place to be. [b] AS IS [/b] Why do we have to change?

    I have no objection to making certain allowances for other cultures/religions, and yes, I treat everyone equally regardless of race, religion, culture, gender etc., but surely the basis of people coming over here in the first place, is to [u] want [/u] to be here as it?s better than their original home. So why try to change it and make it INTO what/where they have left?

    Have I lost the plot, here? ? No, don?t answer that.

    Why do we have to have separate laws for separate cultures and religions? No matter what their origin, these people are now in BRITAIN. They are here for a reason ? it?s better than where they were, so why try to bring in differing statutes to the rest of us?

    I?m not getting at any culture or religion (you know me better than that) but I just want to know ? if anyone cares to answer ? why we should let others decide what is [u] now[/u] to be considered British, and what isn?t.

    Has my logic tilted, or am I looking at this all wrong? It?s actually ?us Brits? that I?m getting tee-ed off at, for allowing ourselves to be de-culturalised (is that a word?) in the first place.

    This is the final straw, for me, in a long line of things that are appearing to de-British the British. It?s becoming a stupid country in which to live.

    [/rant]

    Anyone over there want a lodger? (Clean, neat, tidy, house-trained, and can cook?)

    GG

    Edit: multi-tasking – can’t spell and rant at the same time….

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    • #2454309

      Come and live with me Gadge

      by tintoman ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      ok so it wont get you out of rip off britain but we can while away our years ranting about the state of the country.
      In the end it takes a lot to understand how any country could pay such close attention to the “feelings” of other cultures over something like the proms and at the same time bomb the crap out of afghanistan and iraq and whoever happens to be next on the list.
      The reality is that while people are killing each other for entertainment our beloved government amuse themselves by concentrating more important issues like dreaming up more ways to tax us, and close post offices, and hospitals…and schools…..razor blade anyone?

      • #2454265

        You’re not far enough away!

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Come and live with me Gadge

        there’s only 150 miles difference!

        Oh well.

        However, I’ll yell if I’m passing your way!

        nice to know it’s not just me…… :p 😀

        GG

    • #2454305

      Gee….

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      I have sung in various choirs and participated in a number of Last Night of the Proms concerts. This despite the fact that Canada and Toronto in particular is becoming far more diverse. They generally sell out. And yes they wave UNION JACKS!!! And we sing ‘God save the Queen’, something we used to do in pubic schools in the 60s, along side ‘O Canada’

      How much of it is newcomers and how much is political “correctness’.

      James

      • #2454262

        probably 50/50

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Gee….

        but at the moment it feels more like 75/25.

        We’re already known for being “PC gone mad” and for using leniency when we shouldn’t – oh, see todays EU rant on celebrity drug takers for that one, I’ll edit in a link later – but so many are getting away with allsorts just because they “don’t understand our culture” it’s ridiculous.

        If I have time, I’ll post personal examples later.

        GG

        Edit: add link specified above –
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7278943.stm

    • #2454302

      You are always welcome here

      by tig2 ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      But keep in mind that the US is no better. And in some ways worse.

      Google Australia Country Rant foreigner. Don’t be surprised to discover that Australia handled a similar issue differently- as in “If you don’t like our culture, you are welcome to leave.”

      I can’t say that it will get better. But it will only change if the people WANT it to change.

      Sorry sweetie. That’s just the way it is.

      • #2454261

        Y’see…

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to You are always welcome here

        that’s how WE should be doing it.

        If you don’t like it, leave, or don’t come here in the first place.

        Hmm. US worse? From what I’ve seen of the Obama/Clinton debacle, you could very well be right….. 🙁

        GG

        • #2454217

          The US is horrid…

          by keighlar ·

          In reply to Y’see…

          We can’t even agree to simply make English the official language.

        • #2454213

          No, you speak and write American.

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to The US is horrid…

          Trust me.

          I have a works email account stuck solid on US spelling.

          That ain’t English to us Brits!

          GG

        • #2454207

          The Brits made a MAJOR mistake

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to No, you speak and write American.

          Y’all should have copyrighted English. Just think of the revenue that you missed-out on. 😉

        • #2454200

          yes, and

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to The Brits made a MAJOR mistake

          if we’d invented spool chockers too, just think of the amount we could have fined you for incorrect spelling….

          Would have written off the WWII debt 20 years earlier….!

          (that was HUMOUR, dear, HUMOUR …. :p )

          GG

        • #2454137

          Am I the only one…

          by jmgarvin ·

          In reply to yes, and

          …that read the last part as if Foghorn Leghorn wrote it?

        • #2454130

          Foghorn Leghorn

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to yes, and

          Chicks dig me. 😀

        • #2553863

          oy!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to yes, and

          Ah said watch an’ learn, boys, watch an’ learn….

          original reference was totally unintentional, but as a FL fan, I can see which left field that came from!

          GG

        • #2553614

          HA! :-)

          by jmgarvin ·

          In reply to yes, and

          Now you’ve got me doing Foghorn to everybody!

          I say there boy…I say…I say….Now ya’ll gotta do this right.

        • #2553287

          Looney Tunes

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to yes, and

          Have you ever figured-out who a co-worker would be if they were a Looney Tune?

        • #2454192

          I stand corrected.

          by keighlar ·

          In reply to No, you speak and write American.

          We can’t agree on AMERICAN for the official language. 😀

        • #2553772

          True

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to No, you speak and write American.

          Every once in a while we get a scott or english worker here. I have to keep reminding them I don’t speak english. They need to translate to american for me. lol

          🙂

        • #2554144

          Why?

          by seanferd ·

          In reply to The US is horrid…

          What is the other choice?

        • #2554113

          Espanol

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to Why?

          Esta perfecto!

        • #2554109

          What ever happened to

          by jmgarvin ·

          In reply to Espanol

          Esperanta (or whatever it was called), back in the 70’s/80’s? Wasn’t that supposed to be the new “American” language?

        • #2554107

          Wondered about that myself. eom

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to What ever happened to

          eom

        • #2553858

          It was meant to be global…..

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to What ever happened to

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

          Hmm.

          I’m now going to have to read and ensure that if I learn it, it doesn’t make me Oomotic…. ;\

          GG

        • #2553563

          I thought in the 80’s

          by the scummy one ·

          In reply to What ever happened to

          we were all supposed to learn Japanese, because they were
          buying up everything.

        • #2553860

          or….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Espanol

          Pucckaya?

          (that’s the only non cyrillic way I can think of spelling that!) 🙂

          GG

        • #2553774

          Not familiar with that one

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to or….

          Must be acceptable spelling though. Yahoo returned several links (in cyrillic). Several seem to be discussing Quake. Is Pucckaya a virtual lingo?

        • #2553861

          American!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Why?

          ]:)

          GG

    • #2454301

      It isn’t much better here…

      by ed woychowsky ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Rats, now I have to cross the UK off of my list of places to run to. Looks like all of those English classes were wasted. 🙁

      • #2454254

        Ed, you can still run here…..

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to It isn’t much better here…

        just don’t plan on staying!

        Or on anything being THAT different to where you are now!

        As for the English classes – hmm… did you take dialect classes too??!! 😀 🙂

        GG

        • #2454246

          Dialect

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Ed, you can still run here…..

          Let’s see…
          Hood = Bonnet
          Criminal = Hood
          Truck = Lorry
          Post = Mail
          American = Yank

          I really should study-up and re-read the “Two Fat Ladies” cookbooks. 😀

        • #2454239

          nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Dialect

          that’s English English!

          If you want to study up, have a look on YouTube for things like The Likely Lads and Auf Weidersehen (sp?) Pet for Geordie, listen to Coronation Street and Eastenders also for other dialects, and try (just try, mind you) following Jamie Oliver on one of his first cooking programmes!

          Then, and only then, will you have *done* dialect!

          Geordie translator: http://www.whoohoo.co.uk/geordie-translator.asp

          Geordie dialect:
          http://www.bobjude.co.uk/geordie/index.html

          Enjoy!

          GG
          ]:)

        • #2454231

          Too bad…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!

          That I wasted my time learning Southern.

        • #2554160

          You may have learned southern,

          by gsg ·

          In reply to Too bad…

          but did you learn Hillbilly? Also, have you ever gotten directions from a Hillbilly or Southerner? You want to get to Walmarts? (note the S on the end), well, ya go straight down this here road, and turn left at the Johnson place. Old Johnson, well, he died nigh on 50 year ago, and his daughter married up with the Wilson boy. Go straight, and turn right at the big oak tree on the Hoggett farm. ‘Course, no Hoggetts have lived there since the Depression. They lost it for taxes, and them govmint men sold it, and nobody’s made a go of it yet. We had some univerity fella down here who thought he knew everthing, but he lost the farm in just a couple year. Go straight for 50 mile, and ya’ll see it on the left.

        • #2454115

          geordie is easy

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!

          to understand.

          at least I knew exactly what you were saying in geordie in the podcast. before you gave the definition of the comment :p

          and I had never heard geordie before. 😀

        • #2553856

          I’ll test that out!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to geordie is easy

          having got a new headset and mic last weekend, I’ll get on skype and put you to the test!

          (not Saturday – I’m going out! )

          ]:)

          GG

        • #2553642

          sure

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to I’ll test that out!

          make me install skype agin :p

    • #2454297

      US or Brit ?

      by rwalton ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Sound just like here in the Red, White and Blue USA

      do you do windows ?

      • #2454253

        Nah…..

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to US or Brit ?

        vertigo!

        (and I’m vertically challenged, too!)

        GG

    • #2454295

      Welcome to my nightmare

      by jdclyde ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      I think your gunna like it
      I think your gunna feel like you belong….

      This is not new, and it is something we have been complaining about in the States for some time now. Globalists don’t WANT a national pride because it is easier to erase borders and move to the new world order of a global government.

      I know how much you love the EU trying to dictate to you, just imagine if it were a global union instead?

      oh, the humanity.

      You can join me in my bunker if you wish luv. Plenty of food and ammo, so we can hold out for years, and if you join me it will help make up for not having one of those “furnace” things…. :p 😡

      • #2454248

        You’re right.

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Welcome to my nightmare

        In essence, it seems as if national pride is becoming a thing of the past.

        Sadly.

        No furnace? Oh.

        I’ll need central heating, then…… 😡

        GG

        • #2454244

          to the politically correct gang, if you have any national pride…

          by locrian_lyric ·

          In reply to You’re right.

          …you are a Nazi.

          Ergo, nationalistic self-loathing is embraced to prove that one is NOT a Nazi.

        • #2454233

          Now THAT

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to You’re right.

          is what I call a heating system… ]:) And EXACTLY what I had in mind…. repeatedly…. 😡

        • #2454219

          Now, how….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Now THAT

          did I know that?!

          😀 😀

          😡

          GG

      • #2454135

        Pass the ammo…

        by jmgarvin ·

        In reply to Welcome to my nightmare

        It’s irritating to see the US subverted because somebody wants to save a buck.

      • #2554158

        You’ll have to move

        by gsg ·

        In reply to Welcome to my nightmare

        You know all those separtists who live in bunkers living in Montana.

        • #2553794

          Not a good idea

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to You’ll have to move

          It is looking like we will have another Democrat President, and you know how them Dems like to execute separatists and the families of separatists in Montana…

        • #2553531

          Come to Missouri

          by gsg ·

          In reply to Not a good idea

          Come down here where I am in SW Missouri. It’s nothing but hills, trees, and caves, with an occasional town in between. I could set you up in the back 40 in a nice cave complete with a bear or mountain lion. Just take your pick.

          Disclaimer: I make no guarantee of survival if said bear or mountain lion gets hungry.

        • #2555458

          A bear or lion

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Come to Missouri

          I could handle, they don’t shoot you in the back from 300 yards away.

          Are the caves dry? ;\

    • #2454284

      GG

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Come stay with us! That would be awesome. You can just pitch in with the rest of us. Of course, things ARE a little different here. 🙂 We speak English, but it’s ‘merican English. It just ain’t the same.

      my husband does a pretty good British accent, so he could make you feel right at home.

      • #2454274

        A spot of tea and some crumpets?

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to GG

        Not that I really even know what a crumpet is…..

        pip pip, cherios? :^0

        Ah, the thought of GG within a daze ride…. ]:)

        • #2454272

          Just yesterday (really)

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to A spot of tea and some crumpets?

          I had a crumpet for lunch. They have them at the grocery. Just look where you find refrigerated English muffins and bagels.

        • #2454258

          What is funny

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Just yesterday (really)

          trying going to Canada and get “Canadian Bacon” on a pizza. Of all the places in the world you would expect to be able to get it….. :0

          😀

        • #2454240

          Food items

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to What is funny

          You also can’t get Boston Cream Pie in Boston, but you can get a Philly Cheese Steak in Philadelphia. I think people just make-up names for food to make them sound better.

        • #2554108

          Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to What is funny

          Really corny movie, that “Canadian Bacon”.

          And in Canada, no one calls it Canadian Bacon. Its peameal bacon.

          Never had it on pizza – because its so lean doesn’t it get tough?

          James

        • #2553790

          It isn’t bad

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?

          but you don’t see it as much anymore.

          Canadian Bacon, easily the worst movie John Candy was ever in.

        • #2553607

          peameal?

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?

          usually I hear it called back bacon.

          since it is nothing more than the pork tenderloin smoked into bacon. 😀

        • #2553565

          Must be a regional thing

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to peameal?

          Peameal is smoked, pickled and coated in pea meal to keep the juices in, hence the name.

          James

        • #2454245

          Tried waffles?

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Just yesterday (really)

          I think you’d like those, too.

          Hey, we gotta get Beth and Sonjawithaj working on this girly night, haven’t we?

          GG

        • #2454237

          Yes we do.

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Tried waffles?

          We could solve all the world’s problems. Or at least bitch about them. 🙂

    • #2454281

      Keep waving your union jack!

      by forum surfer ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Otherwise you’ll be stuck listening to a bunch of whining far left-wing liberals like in California and other places through out the good ol USA. We’re so far gone here that displays of national pride like making our kids recite the pledge of allegiance while standing at attention facing OUR flag have “offended” so many people. Our flag is a sacred thing that many, many people have fought and died for. Our kids should be taught to show that the utmost respect from a very young age. My son is 5, knows the pledge, can sing along to the national anthem and knows that it is very disrespectful to let our flag touch the ground when raising or lowering it. Your countrymen/women should treat your Union Jack the same way and not abandon traditions in fear of offending someone. If you find it offensive get over it or get out…

      Sorry, had to follow your rant up with a rant from across the pond!

      • #2454234

        Wrong!

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Keep waving your union jack!

        It’s not a Union Jack.

        That’s politically incorrect.

        It’s gender specific, ergo it has to go.

        It’s been The Union Flag for around ten years.

        (But don’t tell anyone here – we still call it Jack….! ]:) )

        GG

        • #2454223

          Right!

          by forum surfer ·

          In reply to Wrong!

          That’s where it all starts…divide us first and foremost between genders as (most often) that is the easiest way to spot differences between people. Then segregate us into nationalities. Next thing you know we’re all segregated with no sense of national pride. I’m not even from the UK and it seems kind of disrespectful to call it anything other than Union Jack. Hmmm…good ol’ “Union Flag”?! Lol, it makes y’all sound like a bunch of wusses. It’s the “Union Jack” because I say so…along with the 100’s of your fellow country men/women that stood beside my friends in the 82nd Airbourne over the years. 🙂 Cheers to ya..you sound like you could use a cold one, lol.

        • #2454214

          Wrong!

          by the listed ‘g man’ ·

          In reply to Right!

          ‘Jack’ should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship)!

        • #2454212

          Wrong!

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Wrong!

          that’s the ensign!

          GG

        • #2454208

          Incorrect!

          by the listed ‘g man’ ·

          In reply to Wrong!

          Terminology

          The issue of whether to use the term “Union Flag” or “Union Jack” is a matter of some debate. One view is that “Union Jack” should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship),[1] but it is not universally accepted that the “Jack” of “Union Jack” is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess.[2] Since “Union Jack” is a proper noun, the term is equally correct when the flag is flown on land.

          The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a “relatively recent idea”. It also noted that “From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.[3]

          When the flag was initially introduced, in 1606, it was known simply as “the British flag” or “the flag of Britain”. The first use of the name “Union” appeared in 1625. The word ‘jack’ was in use before 1600 to describe the maritime bow flag. By 1627 a small Union Jack was commonly flown in this position. One theory goes that for some years it would have been called just “the Jack”, or “Jack flag”, or “the King’s Jack”, but by 1674, while formally referred to as “His Majesty’s Jack”, it was commonly called the Union Jack, and this was officially acknowledged.[3]

          The ‘Jack’ part of the name may also have come from the name of King James I / James VI of Scotland, who inherited the English crown, uniting the two kingdoms. Jac is from Jacobus, Latin for James. King James was fond of attaching his name to items of national importance. Other examples include the King James Bible, commissioned in 1603, and Jamestown – the first English speaking settlement made in North America under King James’ rule (1607).

          The size and power of the Royal Navy internationally at the time could also explain why the flag was named the “Union Jack”; considering the navy was so widely utilised and renowned by the United Kingdom and Commonwealth countries, it is possible that the term “Jack” did occur due to its regular use on all British ships using the “Jack Staff” (a flag pole attached to the bow of a ship). Even if the term “Union Jack” does derive from the jack flag (as perhaps seems most likely), after three centuries, it is now sanctioned by use, has appeared in official use, and remains the popular term.

          The BBC website disregards the term “union flag” because of its “great potential for confusion”, preferring union jack (in lower case)[4]. The Merchant Shipping Act 1995[5] refers to the national colours of the United Kingdom as “the Union flag (commonly known as the Union Jack) ?”.

          The term “Union Flag” is less well known outside of the United Kingdom[6][7], and may refer to other union flags.

        • #2454197

          Yeesh….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Incorrect!

          I thought NeilB was the resident pedant on here…..

          GG
          ]:)

          :p :p

        • #2454151

          Wrong!

          by forum surfer ·

          In reply to Incorrect!

          Wikipedia (from whence that was quoted) isn’t a viable source of info. 🙂 “Official” or not, the entire world knows what you’re referring to when you say “Union Jack”, not so with “Union Flag”.

          Anyway, the Sex Pistols called it the Union Jack, so that’s good enough for me! Anything else is just bollocks, lol…

        • #2454129

          Thoughs from the Resident Pedant

          by neilb@uk ·

          In reply to Incorrect!

          NITS(tm), when cutting and pasting from Wiki or other on-line source, does endeavour [1] to remove the reference tags from the text or include the references themselves. To leave your text scattered with numbers [2] is pretty damn lazy!

          Neil 🙂

          [1] NITS(tm) standard of writing. Author NeilB 2008.
          http://tinyurl.com/39mz9q

          [2] How not to make an already boring post a complete pain by leaving crap in it. Author NeilB, 2008.
          http://tinyurl.com/39mz9q

        • #2454108

          Neil…

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Incorrect!

          I always enjoy your thoughs.

        • #2554003

          Well….

          by the listed ‘g man’ ·

          In reply to Incorrect!

          Did not care that much to go through and remove them. Was just for information. Nothing wrong with a little Ctrl C, Ctrl V every now and again.

    • #2454235

      Maybe…

      by ed woychowsky ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      We could start our own country, like the Conch Replublic. I nominate Tigger2 for president and Gadgetgirl for Vice President.

      • #2454226

        Great Idea!

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Maybe…

        Are you treasurer?

        Can I hit you for the cost of airfare to the Inaugural Meeting? First Class?

        Five star hotel?

        Please?

        GG

        • #2454215

          Alas

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Great Idea!

          Like everybody else I’m broke. 🙁

          How about we start our country in cyberspace? We could start with an election and once we have a leader we could apply for aid from other nations. 😀

        • #2454209

          Ed, I like the way….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Alas

          you think.

          Aid from other nations, hmm? Can we ask Nigeria perchance?!

          ok, cyberspace it is.

          Hey, Jaqui just started doing hosting…. could we live on him?

          ]:)

          GG

        • #2454199

          Repeat after me…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Ed, I like the way….

          Diplomatic immunity.

          Before we start I need to re-read Evil Geniuses in a Nutshell. Maybe if I scrape the glow-in-the-dark stuff off a few thousand watches we can be a nuclear power.

        • #2454195

          o…………….k

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Repeat after me…

          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity

          …………… have I got it yet? ……….

          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          Diplomatic Immunity
          ………………….. Ed? ………….

          GG

        • #2454191

          Yep…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to o…………….k

          Now you can get-way with more things and if you’re caught they can’t do anything to you. 😉

        • #2454109

          ~rotflmao~

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Ed, I like the way….

          but then I could tax us. ]:)

        • #2454096

          and better yet

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to ~rotflmao~

          be the one to decide and administer proper punishment…. :0

        • #2553853

          Proper punishment for you, jd –

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to and better yet

          extra loud repeating show tunes for 24 hours!!

          :p :p

          ( 😡 )

          GG

        • #2555186

          Punishment for JD?

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to and better yet

          Hmm, let me think. No, not just JD. Everybody. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnjkb4q6FKU

          Allow me a cruel chuckle. ]:)

        • #2553854

          But Jaq, dear…..

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to ~rotflmao~

          you could tax us, yes, but for [i] [b] some [/i] [/b] of us, would you allow payment in (un)kind?? ]:)

          GG

        • #2454105

          Hey, that is a better idea than

          by w2ktechman ·

          In reply to Alas

          the religion of SCUM….’

        • #2554154

          A tech religion

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Hey, that is a better idea than

          Apple Computer: the only company that can get tax-free status as a religion. 😉

        • #2554115

          not a tech religion

          by w2ktechman ·

          In reply to A tech religion

          a religion based on not taking responsibility for your own actions (such as a large part of the public). Hence the religion of SCUM (see, it fits). Basically, do as you want, and if you get into trouble ‘your religion made you do it’ :^0 What an awesome thing. To always have an excuse handy!!!

          Currently there are many high up positions needed to be filled, so post your loyalty now and receive a free membership!!!
          Later, when we start taxing..er..I mean charging a percentage of income (to make me and the higher ups rich), you can gain 😀 😀

          Of course the Diplomatic Immunity thing is sooo much more cool 🙁 And the option of getting aid for being such a poor country 🙁

          So your idea is better still, and you also have the option to tax 🙁 This means the country idea has a much better ability to make execs rich… And I am not even one of them 🙁 🙁

        • #2554091

          I am both

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to not a tech religion

          the taxer and head of religion. ]:)

          since I am the head of my religion 😀

          I get to screw the people both ways. ]:)

        • #2554061

          Jaqui..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to not a tech religion

          It’s good to be the king, huh?

        • #2553850

          Jaq….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to not a tech religion

          you’re wanting it [i] all ways [/i] again, aren’t you?!

          GG

        • #2553827

          GG

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to not a tech religion

          I think that is the nature of that beast. 🙂

        • #2553644

          wanting?

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to not a tech religion

          naw, I have it. :p

          not my fault that my “wiccan” beliefs are unique, making me the only “Member” of my religion. :p
          if there isn’t anyone else, I’m both the higest and lowest ranked member of the church. 😀

      • #2454225

        Na

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to Maybe…

        gg is already the Queen, why would she lower herself to be a Vice President?

        If she is going to be involved in ANY kind of vice, it WON’T be in an office…. ]:)

        • #2454216

          Darnitalltoh3ll….

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to Na

          I was so busy trying to get over there, I missed the “vice” remark.

          Nice pick up there, jd 😡

          Now, where’s the batmobile? It’s got all the vithe in thatth needed for thum fun….

          ]:)

          GG

        • #2553813

          If…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Darnitalltoh3ll….

          GG, if you want to get even with JD, just appoint him Ambassador to Mongolia.

        • #2553793

          oh, you mean

          by gadgetgirl ·

          In reply to If…

          OUTER Mongolia. Right?

          good one, Ed – do you happen to know if they play showtunes there? 😀 😀 😀

          (ok, jd, I’m ducking….. :p )

          GG

        • #2553766

          Showtunes

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to oh, you mean

          GG, there is a cure that JD might try to get the showtunes out of his head. From personel experiance I know it also works for the Disney It’s a Small World song.

        • #2553584

          If you get an earwig

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Showtunes

    • #2454218

      Perhaps…

      by the listed ‘g man’ ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      If the UK was to split on to England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland the term British would not exist anyway.

      Looking at recent events Scotland wants independance from Britain. Now without Scotland, there would be no Britain (as there would be no GB to union with N. Ireland).

      If Scotland went there is not much doubt that Wales would follow close behind.

      So the term ‘British’ is getting old hat anyway (or so it seems).

      • #2454204

        They might as well

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Perhaps…

        they’ve divvied up everything else – why not good old Britain.

        Doesn’t seem to be much to keep it hanging around for.

        GG

      • #2454187

        Ah, but

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Perhaps…

        Great Britain is a geographical and not a political entity. The Scots, Welsh and the patriotic English, for all that they might wish or say otherwise, are British by being natives of the Island of Great Britain. The Northern Irish are not British unless you twist the definition into a political entity.

        Neil 🙂

        The chances of sufficient numbers of the Welsh being stupid enough to vote for independence is very, very slim. The Scots may be stupid enough but I think that they would come to regret it.

    • #2454154

      Cultural differences

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      GG – Britain, much like Canada is a multicultural country, as compared to the USA which would be a melting pot of cultures.

      Because of this, citizens are able to acccept ‘cultural’ differences and make it acceptable to immigrate, but the line between good and evil is a fine one and Canada too has stepped back and forth across it, just as teh US has with the melting pot system.

      [b]PROS:[/b]
      [u]Multicultural:[/u] accepts immigration AND the immigrants choice of culture. This has its pros too, it enables children to grow up understanding the cultural differences between races and become more accepting of those differences.

      [u]Melting POt:[/u]accepts immigration but NOT the immigrants culture or religion. Immigrants are expected to assimilate and become a US citizen, speak US English and even absorb Western religion (of course Christianity would be preferred).

      CONS:
      [u]Mulitcultural:[/u]The fine line between acceptance is often crossed/abused. While we have laws pertaining to immigration acceptance, those same laws can be abused (of course, as can all laws)to push for more. Such as Boy Scouts changing their promise from ‘God and queen…” to “MY god and Queen”, East Indians in eth RCMP are not allowed to wear turbans, despite years of contest regarding official RCMP uniforms vs religious acceptance. Mind you, most Indian RCMP don’t bother with the turban as tehy know how controversial it is, so they wear the correct uniform and don’t push the line.
      Your post is just another example of how this multicultural acceptance gets pushed a little too far.

      [u]Meltingpot:[/u]The drawbacks to being a meltin pot is that you can’t’ claim to really be multicultural and accepting of difference if you expect assimilation. Alternate religions, languages and cultures are invited to become ‘American’ but retaining that culture, religion, language is frowned upon. How many times have we seen that displayed here alone? The drwback is that it builds a nation of people unwilling to accept difference, unwilling to adjust their ways to make it easier for someone else to live in the ocuntry. Unwilling to learn about a different culture. It is ALMOST (now I’ll get flamed for this) a Nazi mindset where people are ALLOWED to live there but the ‘pure US cutizens’ ae considerd superior and simply allowing people to share their soace while they become American. It results in reduced cultural education, an ignorance towards difference, and an outward air that you can become a citizen of the US but YOU are not okay as is. Children don’t learn to accept cultural difference etc.

      When I was young, I had a friend who was Hindi, learned a bit of Hindi (very little) learned about Hindi cooking and religion. Another was Japanese so I learned about Japanese foods, Bhuddism, etc. When I wentr to teh US to stay with fellow Scouting groups, the troops were dominantly caucasian, the kids we stayed with only had caucasian friends etc.

      I will nto suggest that this causes wars at all, but in teh same sense, it does not teach people to understand or try to understand cultural differences. We have seen countless people here who have obviously no understanding of the Middle East, cultures, religions etc. In Canada (and teh UK) it is easier to understand and accept as we are surrounded by the same culture and diversity which teaches us to learn and not repel cultural difference.

      I can guarantee you one thing though, the UK compared to Canada is very different in that the UK is closer to being a melting pot than Canada is. In the UK I find many if not the majority of Indians are pretty well educated and well spoken, often with an English accnent, especially younger generations.

      In Canada, an East Indian is an East Indian. they have a different way of consudcting business, which you learn to work with and accept. They have mosques and temples EVERYWHERE, which again we learn to accept.

      But the whole government cowtowing to immigrants is just where that fine line gets tripped over all the time. One decision is seen as discrimination, the other can be seen as unjust changes to an existign society or culture.

      Face it, the world’s borders are dissolving fast. Computers unite and bring together so many countries as we find new ways to work together and benefit from each other. We simply must get used to accpeting these changes, sometimes even seeming wrong (they will change again in time anyway), but we are better off for it in teh long run. our children will be better off and perhas, just one day, not in mu lifetime, the world’s cultures will acdcept and find benefit in differences, instead of fear. Hopefully we will have returned to our individual cultures as while we accept others, they must also accept teh fact that we need ot retain our OWN cultures too.

      I say all this in complete hypocisy, while living in a land stolen from the origal inhabitants who were forced to change in order to accept OUR ways, just as is so in the USA too. Mind you, I LOVE North America’s native Indian culture and really wish they got a better deal when we came aboard.

      In a sense, we don’t have any right to dictate what an immigrant does or doesn’t do here, in fact we should just feel lucky that they immmigrate instead fo going to war everytime a new culture wants to take over North America. Why not, we did it?

      Wow, lots of thoughts, sorry about that but it is a subject I take great interest in.

      EDIT TO ADD EVEN MORE: I too have the feeling that if you WANT to come here because it is a better life, better government, better income, better opportunity etc. Then do so. But you can’t expect us to change our LAWS to match what you had before. You LEAVE that behind, can’t have the best of both worlds. I also see laws as being VERY different from cultural or religious issues. Indians are allowed to carry kirpans in Canada, thier children were crrying them to school at one time. (those long curly knives that they wear on a sash).
      This is where it crosses the line, knives of that length are illegal in our country (as far as carrying one in public) ESPECIALY in a school. But they fight the ocurts because in India they are allowed to do so. THIS is where it goes too far, wear your turban, tell me why you war it and educate my son too. Tell him about your kirpan and religion, but DON’T carry a weapon to a school my child attends.

      (okay he’s all grown up now but still, he COULD have been attending that school) 🙂 .

      • #2454097

        Melting vs multi, a quick thought

        by jdclyde ·

        In reply to Cultural differences

        Canada has two official languages, correct? In a true multicultural country, why? Simple, it is in the best interests of everyone if we can talk a common language, so we can communicate.

        In the US, people are not forced to leave their religion behind, provided it does not violate laws, such as honor killings, stoning of an adulterous wife [i](I kind of like that law…)[/i] or the ability to have as many wives from pre-arranged marriages as you wish.

        In Michigan, we have one of the largest Muslim communities in the Country, and they have their mosques. True, the are not allowed to broadcast their call to pray, but they are still fighting that in court. Does their religion trump the rights of the non-muslims that live in that region? of course not.

        Immigrants are not told to forget their heritage or to leave it behind them, but they ARE told to live here, speak English, and have a good life and enjoy the opportunities that are here that were not in their native lands.

        If people are not united by a common language, then there can never be understanding of each other just because you can’t communicate. EVERYONE benefits by that.

        At the same time, the immigrants should not be able to demand that existing traditions be stopped. The Aussies had it right, if you don’t like it here, leave.

        • #2553934

          Funny you sound a lot like a Quebecer….

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Melting vs multi, a quick thought

          Quebec has been fighting to keep their language and culture pure for a while, it became legislated in the 70s. There are small towns in Quebec which are passing very directed laws at Muslims which seem to have the purpose of discouraging them from settling there.

          http://municipalite.herouxville.qc.ca/Standards.pdf

          Read it and enjoy.

          James

        • #2553773

          Sounds like they have most of it right

          by jdclyde ·

          In reply to Funny you sound a lot like a Quebecer….

          [i]”Moreover, in many of our schools no prayer is allowed.”[/i]

          Wow, I didn’t know they were anti-religion.

          I would think women in general should favor this to keep women slaves from being brought into the region under the guise of marriage.

          I don’t see this as trying to discourage muslims, simply informing them before hand that they way they treat women is barbaric and will not be tolerated. They can either become civilized and treat women with respect and as equals or they can stay in whatever war-torn shithole they came from.

          Sounds reasonable to me.

        • #2553553

          Quebec and the Catholic Church

          by jamesrl ·

          In reply to Sounds like they have most of it right

          Back in the bad old days when Quebecers were mostly rural and English men ran business in Montreal, the Catholic church truly dominated Quebec. From the pulpit, the Quebecois were told how to vote, how many children to have, how to spend their money etc. Women were second class citizens.

          In the 60s, many things changed. Jobs brought people into the cities. Francophones had more access to good jobs. Women entered the workforce. Married women started to keep their maiden names. More people went to university. The birthrate dropped dramatically.

          So there is a little bit of backlash against the Catholic Church in Quebec. French schools used to be Catholic but no more.

          James

      • #2553848

        Oz, I sincerely appreciate that reply.

        by gadgetgirl ·

        In reply to Cultural differences

        – especially your expansion of the differences between multicultural and melting pot. Spot on! I wholeheartedly (and very firmly) agree with you.

        ok, go ahead, frame this post! 😉

        On a lighter note, I tried reading this last night, sadly after one or two of my favourite “painkillers” and apart from having [u] extreme difficulty[/u] with your typos (no change there – that’s just you! 😡 ) was unfortunate enough to conjour up a mental image due to some wording you used of a dalek wearing a Sikh turban…..

        wha’?! 😀 :p :0 ;\

        GG

    • #2454131

      Cmon over to Georgia, y’all

      by robo_dev ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Where evolution is just a theory, gun control means using both hands when you pull the trigger, and you don’t have to wear your seatbelt if you drive a pickup truck.

      On the other hand, there are tons of IT jobs, homes are dirt cheap, and you can drive as fast as your car can go on the freeway.

      • #2454124

        And…

        by ed woychowsky ·

        In reply to Cmon over to Georgia, y’all

        The pecan pie is GREAT! If you ignore that it’s pronounced pee-can. 🙂

        Seriously, you should mention the food.

        • #2554149

          It’s pronounced

          by gsg ·

          In reply to And…

          Puh-cahn. At least, that’s what I use. I can’t STAND IT when people pronounce it PEE-CAN. I propose the first ammendement to the constitution of the Cyber Country of Jacqui. Pecan must be pronounced Puh-cahn. Failure to do so will result in death by firing squad of sling shots with pecan ammo.

        • #2554124

          Sorry…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to It’s pronounced

          I spent too much time in Alabama, where they do say PEE-CAN. Oddly enough, they also say PEE-CAN in Scranton Pennsylvania where they also call a green bell pepper a mango.

        • #2554086

          That’s OK

          by gsg ·

          In reply to Sorry…

          I was in my grocery store and I noticed that they labeled Fennel as Anise. One’s a vegetable, and the other is a spice. Fennel and Anise are not the same things. I told the produce manager that he’d labeled the veggies wrong, and I got a blank stare. Of course, the kid at the checkout looked at the leeks that I bought and wondered at how big the green onions were. For gosh’s sake, watch the food network, man!

        • #2553812

          Food network

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to That’s OK

          I met Alton Brown once; he told me that he hates me. All I did was ask what to do if a recipe had an ingredient that was extinct? 🙁

        • #2553527

          Why do you never see…

          by gsg ·

          In reply to Food network

          Why don’t you ever see them make something with squirrel, or rabbit, or deer? They’ve used rabbit and venison on iron chef, but come on, give these guys a real challenge!

        • #2555182

          I’ll agree with that, sort of

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to It’s pronounced

          I grew up pronouncing it “Peh-kahn.”

          Pee-can? The house I grew up in had no heat or samitary facilities on the bedroom level. The Pee Can was under the bed. 😉

        • #2555180

          that was

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to I’ll agree with that, sort of

          the potfer

          the pot fer to piss in. 😀

        • #2555167

          Yessir!

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to that was

          I never understood why my grandmother called it a chamber pot. It wasn’t a pot, it was a can.

        • #2555052

          because

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Yessir!

          they used to be fired clay containers or else metal containers, with handles and lids, just like the pots of the time. that’s where the name came from. 🙂
          [ cast iron bean pot for over the fire / on the woodburning stove is the style that they got the name from ]

        • #2554980

          Forgot the ;) in my previous post

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to Yessir!

          🙂

        • #2554143

          IT Terminology Dictionary for the Southern US

          by robo_dev ·

          In reply to And…

          Tore Up = broken “he tore up that laptop real good”

          Mash On = press. “Go ahead and mash on the enter key”

          Cut Off = switch off. “Go ahead and cut off that thar light switch”

          That dog won’t hunt = Ping response failed

          Bless her heart = user empathy response when data is lost

          Fixin’ to = getting prepared to act “I’m fixin to compact the database”

          Jeet Yet = question to indicate whether lunch plans are possible

        • #2553811

          Translations

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to IT Terminology Dictionary for the Southern US

          When I was in Alabama a lady from Pennsylvania asked a local, ?What?s y?all?? Before the southerner could respond I blurted out, ?Use-guys.? To which the lady said, ?Oh, ok.? I though that the southerner was going to bust something laughing. 🙂

    • #2454102

      Come on over…

      by naughtymonkey ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      I recently liberated my mother-in-law from her suite in the backyard (or maybe that is liberated the house from her since it is in much better condition and isn’t dusty at all). Oh well, it is fully furnished with excellent decor.

      Of course, it is just as obnoxious and irritating in this country as well. 😉

    • #2554106

      While we’re talking about Poms…

      by jmgarvin ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      What is wrong with the Aussies and Kiwis? Do you have no tastebuds? You do know that Vegemite tastes awful, don’t you? 😉

      • #2553432

        Death be on your head

        by drowningnotwaving ·

        In reply to While we’re talking about Poms…

        Vegemite has many uses.

        First, food. It’s brilliant. Only a fool, or anyone who thinks that yellow gunk that they serve in the USA is really mustard, would say otherwise.

        Second when you have rust patches in the floor of your car: cover the hole with cardboard from the inside, smear the outside with thick vegemite, then drive up and down a dusty road. The inspector will never know the difference when you have the annual roadworthiness inspection on your car.

        And you so flippantly ridicule it ???

        • #2553283

          I have got to…

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Death be on your head

          Try Vegemite. Since I’m in the US I’m going to have to hunt it down.

          One question, how do you suggest that I try it?

        • #2553239
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          RE [i]how do you suggest that I try it?[/i]

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to I have got to…

          Very Sparingly Ed. It’s dangerous and you need to treat it with respect. 😀

          I’ve seen a lot of people who have never eaten it previously trowel it on like Jam or as the Americans call it Jelly. That amount of Vegemite is most likely [b]FATAL.[/b] :^0

          Col

        • #2553163

          Ok

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to RE [i]how do you suggest that I try it?[/i]

          I’ll treat it the way most people treat Wasabi. I say most people, because with my Slavic ancestry I find the pain similar to that of horseradish, exquisite. I think Kraft makes Vegemite in the US, maybe I’ll contact them directly.

          I’ll be careful, but remember; that which does not kill us merely postpones the inevitable. 😀

        • #2555216
          Avatar photo

          When I was so much younger than today

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Ok

          My Mommy forced me to eat that stuff and I didn’t like it then either.

          About all it was good for was torturing the kids by forcing them to eat it. Now they like it and are still alive. :_|

          It really is a [b]Evil Foul Black Spread[/b] though and a very definite Acquired Taste. :^0

          Col

        • #2555179

          I’ve heard…

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to When I was so much younger than today

          …that you can improve (cover?) the taste of vegemite by slathering it with horseradish or good German mittelsharfer senf (medium hot mustard).

        • #2555108
          Avatar photo

          The best way to improve the flavor of Vegemite

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to When I was so much younger than today

          Is to throw it in the Bin and not eat it.

          Works every time with no complaints about the flavor. 😀

          Col

        • #2555101

          Vegemite?

          by w2ktechman ·

          In reply to When I was so much younger than today

          Sounds like it needs pesticides to kill it :^0

        • #2555099
          Avatar photo

          Actually I think that pesticides

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to When I was so much younger than today

          Would be [b]Totally Obliterated[/b] by the Vegemite.

          I believe that it is the product of Chemical Warfare that has proved impossible to destroy so it was sold to the unsuspecting public as a Food. 😀

          Yep what else can I say we Aussies are a tough lot. :^0

          Col

        • #2554863

          Just like Wasabi is a VERY good policy

          by drowningnotwaving ·

          In reply to Ok

          On toast.

          Too much WILL NOT kill you but it may turn you into a cross between Brad Pitt, Arnold Schwartznegger and Dave Grohl.

          It explains why Australian and New Zealand men are irresistable to women of the world.

          Well it’s one reason anyway – there are others.

        • #2553261

          Annual inspection?

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to Death be on your head

          You have to have your vehicle inspected annually? We used to have annual pollution tests but now we can go every 2 yrs. We still pay though.

        • #2553254

          Annual inspection

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to Annual inspection?

          Pennsylvania is annual, too. 🙁

        • #2554864

          Annual inspections – as an aside ..

          by drowningnotwaving ·

          In reply to Annual inspection?

          Brakes, lights, safety equipment, tyres, roadworthiness etc.

          Only cars under 3 years old are exempt.

          If you keep your car in good condition it’s not toomuch of an imposition – takes about 15 minutes and costs $30 or so.

          But if you don’t keep your car up-to-date the inspector will go over it with a fine tooth comb – the inspector can also be liable for any damage / injury the car does within 90 days of the inspection, if it is found to be the fault of something they should have picked up.

          I know that many of these things can seem like an imposition to other folks, particularly those from the USA. And I guess it is, in a way. But the fact remains that last year our state had its lowest road toll in over 60 years and that is in absolute terms. Given the growth in population (nearly three times in that period) the reduction is immense! There are a lot of contributing factors in this, but the best result is literally hundreds of millions of tax dollars NOT having to be spent on hospitals, police and ambulance crews.

          So in general we’re happy to put up with compulsory seat-belts, annual vehicle inspections, speed cameras and random breath testing. Very few people see these activities as impinging on our personal freedoms. I think most people over here agree the larger personal freedom is the ability to drive and feel safe.

        • #2556141

          South Carolina used to have annual inspections

          by nicknielsen ·

          In reply to Annual inspections – as an aside ..

          Now we don’t have them at all. It all happened before I got here, but as I understand it:
          1. The inspection was cursory at best: lamps, horn, and brakes.
          2. Anybody with $50 could become an inspector.
          3. There were no consequences to inspectors.
          4. The inspection fee was “too high.”
          5. It violated the “right to drive.”

          I’m sure the actual reason inspections were repealed here in SC is a combination of the above factors and others, with (knowing my adopted home state as I do) numbers 4 and 5 in the forefront.

          So now you see vehicles driving down the road with pieces falling off, with burned-out lamps, cracked windshields, mis-aligned headlamps, etc., etc., etc. I’ve even seen the one truck several times, moving down the road after dark with only parking lights and emergency flashers. What a farging moron! How expensive are headlamps?

          And they wonder why we have a high death rate on our highways…

        • #2555959

          Yea it’s different over here

          by locolobo ·

          In reply to Annual inspections – as an aside ..

          but it’s changed too. My dad was a truck driver. When I was young we never took a trip over 10 mi without checking the vehicle, fluids, lights, signals, etc. He checked weekly regardless. We were poor but Dad’s reasoning was he couldn’t afford a ticket or accident.

          As a young man and later I’ve seen a lot of people who didn’t have the money to buy a headlamp, or have the knowledge to fix the turn signal etc. You wouldn’t believe the people who otherwise looked intelligent pulled into the service station where I worked saying their engine light was on. Their car would be completely dry of oil or water and they would drive it until it started smoking! Now they don’t have to worry about not being able to afford a quart of oil!

        • #2553211

          vegemite

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Death be on your head

          some sort of piss-poor peanutbutter substitute isn’t it.

          like ovaltineis to hot cocoa, vegemite is to peanutbutter.

          I’ll stick with the REAL THING, the cocoa and peanutbutter, the cheap substitutes can be used by those with no taste buds, or to keep rattletraps that should be condemned on the road.

        • #2554867

          Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!

          by drowningnotwaving ·

          In reply to vegemite

          That’s like comparing a milk shake to beer. They may both be fluid but the comparison ends just about there.

          Your name and avatar have been given to the foreign affairs department. And Interpol too.

          🙂

        • #2556086
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          Now be nice after all Jaqui has seen American Beer

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!

          So it’s very close to Mothers Milk. :p

          Col ]:)

        • #2556083

          nope

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Now be nice after all Jaqui has seen American Beer

          american beer is close to p!ss.

          tasteless, bodyless coloured water.
          it’s also known as recycled beer, from ANY other country in the world.

        • #2556045

          American beer

          by ed woychowsky ·

          In reply to nope

          My tastes run more along the lines of Belgium ales, but the best description of American beer was made by the Canadian group The Tartan Terrors, “a non-alcoholic beverage.” 😀

        • #2556033

          it’s recycled

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to nope

          Canadian beer.
          the urinals in the bars go into tanks for the US breweries. ]:)

        • #2556082

          ok, it’s not

          by jaqui ·

          In reply to Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!

          like peanut butter, it’s TAR flavoured spread for anyone foolish enough to eat it. ]:)

          still a toxic substance.

          and anyone that likes it is letting everyone around them know they should be locked up in rubber room for their own safety.

    • #2553937
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      Well GG it’s like this

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK

      Till you loose that Accent no one can understand you so you’ll have to stay put. :p

      Suck it up and live with it [b]Winging Poms[/b] drive me nuts. Probably why the song Willy The Winging Pom was written as well I would think. :^0

      Stop complaining and rig the next Erection so that you can get rid of the Offending Pollies. B-)

      See how a bit of lateral thinking always solves the problems. 😀

      Col ]:)

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