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March 5, 2008 at 5:52 am #2238356
That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Lockedby gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
[rant]
Ok, that?s it, I?ve had enough. This was the final straw for me.
A complaint by a MINISTER that the British Proms are TOO BRITISH.
On the television news last night, they even complained about the flag-waving during ?Land of Hope and Glory?. [b] [i] [u] WHAT?! [/b] [/i] [/u]
Now look. Application of common sense, please. We ARE British. Yes, we have other cultures in our midst, but we live in BRITAIN. We do not live in BritIndiPakiAfriZealandOzCanadAmericEU.
If someone comes over here to live from another country, they must think we?re a nice place to be. [b] AS IS [/b] Why do we have to change?
I have no objection to making certain allowances for other cultures/religions, and yes, I treat everyone equally regardless of race, religion, culture, gender etc., but surely the basis of people coming over here in the first place, is to [u] want [/u] to be here as it?s better than their original home. So why try to change it and make it INTO what/where they have left?
Have I lost the plot, here? ? No, don?t answer that.
Why do we have to have separate laws for separate cultures and religions? No matter what their origin, these people are now in BRITAIN. They are here for a reason ? it?s better than where they were, so why try to bring in differing statutes to the rest of us?
I?m not getting at any culture or religion (you know me better than that) but I just want to know ? if anyone cares to answer ? why we should let others decide what is [u] now[/u] to be considered British, and what isn?t.
Has my logic tilted, or am I looking at this all wrong? It?s actually ?us Brits? that I?m getting tee-ed off at, for allowing ourselves to be de-culturalised (is that a word?) in the first place.
This is the final straw, for me, in a long line of things that are appearing to de-British the British. It?s becoming a stupid country in which to live.
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Anyone over there want a lodger? (Clean, neat, tidy, house-trained, and can cook?)
GG
Edit: multi-tasking – can’t spell and rant at the same time….
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March 5, 2008 at 6:03 am #2454309
Come and live with me Gadge
by tintoman · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
ok so it wont get you out of rip off britain but we can while away our years ranting about the state of the country.
In the end it takes a lot to understand how any country could pay such close attention to the “feelings” of other cultures over something like the proms and at the same time bomb the crap out of afghanistan and iraq and whoever happens to be next on the list.
The reality is that while people are killing each other for entertainment our beloved government amuse themselves by concentrating more important issues like dreaming up more ways to tax us, and close post offices, and hospitals…and schools…..razor blade anyone?-
March 5, 2008 at 7:11 am #2454265
You’re not far enough away!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Come and live with me Gadge
there’s only 150 miles difference!
Oh well.
However, I’ll yell if I’m passing your way!
nice to know it’s not just me…… :p 😀
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 6:06 am #2454305
Gee….
by jamesrl · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
I have sung in various choirs and participated in a number of Last Night of the Proms concerts. This despite the fact that Canada and Toronto in particular is becoming far more diverse. They generally sell out. And yes they wave UNION JACKS!!! And we sing ‘God save the Queen’, something we used to do in pubic schools in the 60s, along side ‘O Canada’
How much of it is newcomers and how much is political “correctness’.
James
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March 5, 2008 at 7:14 am #2454262
probably 50/50
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Gee….
but at the moment it feels more like 75/25.
We’re already known for being “PC gone mad” and for using leniency when we shouldn’t – oh, see todays EU rant on celebrity drug takers for that one, I’ll edit in a link later – but so many are getting away with allsorts just because they “don’t understand our culture” it’s ridiculous.
If I have time, I’ll post personal examples later.
GG
Edit: add link specified above –
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7278943.stm
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March 5, 2008 at 6:11 am #2454302
You are always welcome here
by tig2 · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
But keep in mind that the US is no better. And in some ways worse.
Google Australia Country Rant foreigner. Don’t be surprised to discover that Australia handled a similar issue differently- as in “If you don’t like our culture, you are welcome to leave.”
I can’t say that it will get better. But it will only change if the people WANT it to change.
Sorry sweetie. That’s just the way it is.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:16 am #2454261
Y’see…
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to You are always welcome here
that’s how WE should be doing it.
If you don’t like it, leave, or don’t come here in the first place.
Hmm. US worse? From what I’ve seen of the Obama/Clinton debacle, you could very well be right….. 🙁
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:55 am #2454217
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March 5, 2008 at 7:57 am #2454213
No, you speak and write American.
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to The US is horrid…
Trust me.
I have a works email account stuck solid on US spelling.
That ain’t English to us Brits!
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 8:00 am #2454207
The Brits made a MAJOR mistake
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to No, you speak and write American.
Y’all should have copyrighted English. Just think of the revenue that you missed-out on. 😉
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March 5, 2008 at 8:05 am #2454200
yes, and
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to The Brits made a MAJOR mistake
if we’d invented spool chockers too, just think of the amount we could have fined you for incorrect spelling….
Would have written off the WWII debt 20 years earlier….!
(that was HUMOUR, dear, HUMOUR …. :p )
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 9:31 am #2454137
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March 5, 2008 at 9:39 am #2454130
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March 6, 2008 at 1:43 am #2553863
oy!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to yes, and
Ah said watch an’ learn, boys, watch an’ learn….
original reference was totally unintentional, but as a FL fan, I can see which left field that came from!
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 9:55 am #2553614
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March 7, 2008 at 5:36 am #2553287
Looney Tunes
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to yes, and
Have you ever figured-out who a co-worker would be if they were a Looney Tune?
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March 5, 2008 at 8:14 am #2454192
I stand corrected.
by keighlar · about 16 years ago
In reply to No, you speak and write American.
We can’t agree on AMERICAN for the official language. 😀
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March 6, 2008 at 5:55 am #2553772
True
by locolobo · about 16 years ago
In reply to No, you speak and write American.
Every once in a while we get a scott or english worker here. I have to keep reminding them I don’t speak english. They need to translate to american for me. lol
🙂
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March 5, 2008 at 11:40 am #2554144
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March 5, 2008 at 12:15 pm #2554113
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March 5, 2008 at 12:21 pm #2554109
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March 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm #2554107
Wondered about that myself. eom
by locolobo · about 16 years ago
In reply to What ever happened to
eom
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March 6, 2008 at 1:50 am #2553858
It was meant to be global…..
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to What ever happened to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto
Hmm.
I’m now going to have to read and ensure that if I learn it, it doesn’t make me Oomotic…. ;\
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 11:48 am #2553563
I thought in the 80’s
by the scummy one · about 16 years ago
In reply to What ever happened to
we were all supposed to learn Japanese, because they were
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March 6, 2008 at 1:45 am #2553860
or….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Espanol
Pucckaya?
(that’s the only non cyrillic way I can think of spelling that!) 🙂
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 5:53 am #2553774
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March 6, 2008 at 1:44 am #2553861
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March 5, 2008 at 6:12 am #2454301
It isn’t much better here…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Rats, now I have to cross the UK off of my list of places to run to. Looks like all of those English classes were wasted. 🙁
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March 5, 2008 at 7:20 am #2454254
Ed, you can still run here…..
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to It isn’t much better here…
just don’t plan on staying!
Or on anything being THAT different to where you are now!
As for the English classes – hmm… did you take dialect classes too??!! 😀 🙂
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:28 am #2454246
Dialect
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Ed, you can still run here…..
Let’s see…
Hood = Bonnet
Criminal = Hood
Truck = Lorry
Post = Mail
American = YankI really should study-up and re-read the “Two Fat Ladies” cookbooks. 😀
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March 5, 2008 at 7:35 am #2454239
nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Dialect
that’s English English!
If you want to study up, have a look on YouTube for things like The Likely Lads and Auf Weidersehen (sp?) Pet for Geordie, listen to Coronation Street and Eastenders also for other dialects, and try (just try, mind you) following Jamie Oliver on one of his first cooking programmes!
Then, and only then, will you have *done* dialect!
Geordie translator: http://www.whoohoo.co.uk/geordie-translator.asp
Geordie dialect:
http://www.bobjude.co.uk/geordie/index.htmlEnjoy!
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March 5, 2008 at 7:41 am #2454231
Too bad…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!
That I wasted my time learning Southern.
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March 5, 2008 at 11:14 am #2554160
You may have learned southern,
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to Too bad…
but did you learn Hillbilly? Also, have you ever gotten directions from a Hillbilly or Southerner? You want to get to Walmarts? (note the S on the end), well, ya go straight down this here road, and turn left at the Johnson place. Old Johnson, well, he died nigh on 50 year ago, and his daughter married up with the Wilson boy. Go straight, and turn right at the big oak tree on the Hoggett farm. ‘Course, no Hoggetts have lived there since the Depression. They lost it for taxes, and them govmint men sold it, and nobody’s made a go of it yet. We had some univerity fella down here who thought he knew everthing, but he lost the farm in just a couple year. Go straight for 50 mile, and ya’ll see it on the left.
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March 5, 2008 at 10:00 am #2454115
geordie is easy
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to nooooo! that’s not DIALECT!
to understand.
at least I knew exactly what you were saying in geordie in the podcast. before you gave the definition of the comment :p
and I had never heard geordie before. 😀
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March 6, 2008 at 1:53 am #2553856
I’ll test that out!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to geordie is easy
having got a new headset and mic last weekend, I’ll get on skype and put you to the test!
(not Saturday –
I’m going out! )]:)
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 8:59 am #2553642
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March 5, 2008 at 6:21 am #2454297
US or Brit ?
by rwalton · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Sound just like here in the Red, White and Blue USA
do you do windows ?
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March 5, 2008 at 7:24 am #2454253
Nah…..
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to US or Brit ?
vertigo!
(and I’m vertically challenged, too!)
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 6:25 am #2454295
Welcome to my nightmare
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
I think your gunna like it
I think your gunna feel like you belong….This is not new, and it is something we have been complaining about in the States for some time now. Globalists don’t WANT a national pride because it is easier to erase borders and move to the new world order of a global government.
I know how much you love the EU trying to dictate to you, just imagine if it were a global union instead?
oh, the humanity.
You can join me in my bunker if you wish luv. Plenty of food and ammo, so we can hold out for years, and if you join me it will help make up for not having one of those “furnace” things…. :p 😡
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March 5, 2008 at 7:27 am #2454248
You’re right.
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Welcome to my nightmare
In essence, it seems as if national pride is becoming a thing of the past.
Sadly.
No furnace? Oh.
I’ll need central heating, then…… 😡
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:30 am #2454244
to the politically correct gang, if you have any national pride…
by locrian_lyric · about 16 years ago
In reply to You’re right.
…you are a Nazi.
Ergo, nationalistic self-loathing is embraced to prove that one is NOT a Nazi.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:39 am #2454233
Now THAT
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to You’re right.
is what I call a heating system… ]:) And EXACTLY what I had in mind…. repeatedly…. 😡
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March 5, 2008 at 7:53 am #2454219
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March 5, 2008 at 9:33 am #2454135
Pass the ammo…
by jmgarvin · about 16 years ago
In reply to Welcome to my nightmare
It’s irritating to see the US subverted because somebody wants to save a buck.
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March 5, 2008 at 11:16 am #2554158
You’ll have to move
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to Welcome to my nightmare
You know all those separtists who live in bunkers living in Montana.
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March 6, 2008 at 5:28 am #2553794
Not a good idea
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to You’ll have to move
It is looking like we will have another Democrat President, and you know how them Dems like to execute separatists and the families of separatists in Montana…
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March 6, 2008 at 12:48 pm #2553531
Come to Missouri
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to Not a good idea
Come down here where I am in SW Missouri. It’s nothing but hills, trees, and caves, with an occasional town in between. I could set you up in the back 40 in a nice cave complete with a bear or mountain lion. Just take your pick.
Disclaimer: I make no guarantee of survival if said bear or mountain lion gets hungry.
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March 7, 2008 at 10:49 am #2555458
A bear or lion
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to Come to Missouri
I could handle, they don’t shoot you in the back from 300 yards away.
Are the caves dry? ;\
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March 5, 2008 at 6:48 am #2454284
GG
by maecuff · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Come stay with us! That would be awesome. You can just pitch in with the rest of us. Of course, things ARE a little different here. 🙂 We speak English, but it’s ‘merican English. It just ain’t the same.
my husband does a pretty good British accent, so he could make you feel right at home.
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March 5, 2008 at 6:58 am #2454274
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March 5, 2008 at 7:00 am #2454272
Just yesterday (really)
by maecuff · about 16 years ago
In reply to A spot of tea and some crumpets?
I had a crumpet for lunch. They have them at the grocery. Just look where you find refrigerated English muffins and bagels.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:17 am #2454258
What is funny
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to Just yesterday (really)
trying going to Canada and get “Canadian Bacon” on a pizza. Of all the places in the world you would expect to be able to get it….. :0
😀
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March 5, 2008 at 7:33 am #2454240
Food items
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to What is funny
You also can’t get Boston Cream Pie in Boston, but you can get a Philly Cheese Steak in Philadelphia. I think people just make-up names for food to make them sound better.
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March 5, 2008 at 12:23 pm #2554108
Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?
by jamesrl · about 16 years ago
In reply to What is funny
Really corny movie, that “Canadian Bacon”.
And in Canada, no one calls it Canadian Bacon. Its peameal bacon.
Never had it on pizza – because its so lean doesn’t it get tough?
James
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March 6, 2008 at 5:30 am #2553790
It isn’t bad
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?
but you don’t see it as much anymore.
Canadian Bacon, easily the worst movie John Candy was ever in.
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March 6, 2008 at 10:01 am #2553607
peameal?
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Why would I want a Michael Moore film on Pizza?
usually I hear it called back bacon.
since it is nothing more than the pork tenderloin smoked into bacon. 😀
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March 6, 2008 at 11:37 am #2553565
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March 5, 2008 at 7:29 am #2454245
Tried waffles?
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Just yesterday (really)
I think you’d like those, too.
Hey, we gotta get Beth and Sonjawithaj working on this girly night, haven’t we?
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:36 am #2454237
Yes we do.
by maecuff · about 16 years ago
In reply to Tried waffles?
We could solve all the world’s problems. Or at least bitch about them. 🙂
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March 5, 2008 at 6:52 am #2454281
Keep waving your union jack!
by forum surfer · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Otherwise you’ll be stuck listening to a bunch of whining far left-wing liberals
like in California and other places through out the good ol USA. We’re so far gone here that displays of national pride like making our kids recite the pledge of allegiance while standing at attention facing OUR flag have “offended” so many people. Our flag is a sacred thing that many, many people have fought and died for. Our kids should be taught to show that the utmost respect from a very young age. My son is 5, knows the pledge, can sing along to the national anthem and knows that it is very disrespectful to let our flag touch the ground when raising or lowering it. Your countrymen/women should treat your Union Jack the same way and not abandon traditions in fear of offending someone. If you find it offensive get over it or get out… Sorry, had to follow your rant up with a rant from across the pond!
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March 5, 2008 at 7:38 am #2454234
Wrong!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Keep waving your union jack!
It’s not a Union Jack.
That’s politically incorrect.
It’s gender specific, ergo it has to go.
It’s been The Union Flag for around ten years.
(But don’t tell anyone here – we still call it Jack….! ]:) )
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:49 am #2454223
Right!
by forum surfer · about 16 years ago
In reply to Wrong!
That’s where it all starts…divide us first and foremost between genders as (most often) that is the easiest way to spot differences between people. Then segregate us into nationalities. Next thing you know we’re all segregated with no sense of national pride. I’m not even from the UK and it seems kind of disrespectful to call it anything other than Union Jack. Hmmm…good ol’ “Union Flag”?! Lol, it makes y’all sound like a bunch of wusses. It’s the “Union Jack” because I say so…along with the 100’s of your fellow country men/women that stood beside my friends in the 82nd Airbourne over the years. 🙂 Cheers to ya..you sound like you could use a cold one, lol.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:57 am #2454214
Wrong!
by the listed ‘g man’ · about 16 years ago
In reply to Right!
‘Jack’ should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship)!
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March 5, 2008 at 7:58 am #2454212
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March 5, 2008 at 8:00 am #2454208
Incorrect!
by the listed ‘g man’ · about 16 years ago
In reply to Wrong!
Terminology
The issue of whether to use the term “Union Flag” or “Union Jack” is a matter of some debate. One view is that “Union Jack” should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship),[1] but it is not universally accepted that the “Jack” of “Union Jack” is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess.[2] Since “Union Jack” is a proper noun, the term is equally correct when the flag is flown on land.
The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a “relatively recent idea”. It also noted that “From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.[3]
When the flag was initially introduced, in 1606, it was known simply as “the British flag” or “the flag of Britain”. The first use of the name “Union” appeared in 1625. The word ‘jack’ was in use before 1600 to describe the maritime bow flag. By 1627 a small Union Jack was commonly flown in this position. One theory goes that for some years it would have been called just “the Jack”, or “Jack flag”, or “the King’s Jack”, but by 1674, while formally referred to as “His Majesty’s Jack”, it was commonly called the Union Jack, and this was officially acknowledged.[3]
The ‘Jack’ part of the name may also have come from the name of King James I / James VI of Scotland, who inherited the English crown, uniting the two kingdoms. Jac is from Jacobus, Latin for James. King James was fond of attaching his name to items of national importance. Other examples include the King James Bible, commissioned in 1603, and Jamestown – the first English speaking settlement made in North America under King James’ rule (1607).
The size and power of the Royal Navy internationally at the time could also explain why the flag was named the “Union Jack”; considering the navy was so widely utilised and renowned by the United Kingdom and Commonwealth countries, it is possible that the term “Jack” did occur due to its regular use on all British ships using the “Jack Staff” (a flag pole attached to the bow of a ship). Even if the term “Union Jack” does derive from the jack flag (as perhaps seems most likely), after three centuries, it is now sanctioned by use, has appeared in official use, and remains the popular term.
The BBC website disregards the term “union flag” because of its “great potential for confusion”, preferring union jack (in lower case)[4]. The Merchant Shipping Act 1995[5] refers to the national colours of the United Kingdom as “the Union flag (commonly known as the Union Jack) ?”.
The term “Union Flag” is less well known outside of the United Kingdom[6][7], and may refer to other union flags.
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March 5, 2008 at 8:07 am #2454197
Yeesh….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Incorrect!
I thought NeilB was the resident pedant on here…..
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 9:09 am #2454151
Wrong!
by forum surfer · about 16 years ago
In reply to Incorrect!
Wikipedia (from whence that was quoted) isn’t a viable source of info. 🙂 “Official” or not, the entire world knows what you’re referring to when you say “Union Jack”, not so with “Union Flag”.
Anyway, the Sex Pistols called it the Union Jack, so that’s good enough for me! Anything else is just bollocks, lol…
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March 5, 2008 at 9:40 am #2454129
Thoughs from the Resident Pedant
by neilb@uk · about 16 years ago
In reply to Incorrect!
NITS(tm), when cutting and pasting from Wiki or other on-line source, does endeavour [1] to remove the reference tags from the text or include the references themselves. To leave your text scattered with numbers [2] is pretty damn lazy!
Neil 🙂
[1] NITS(tm) standard of writing. Author NeilB 2008.
http://tinyurl.com/39mz9q[2] How not to make an already boring post a complete pain by leaving crap in it. Author NeilB, 2008.
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March 5, 2008 at 10:09 am #2454108
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March 5, 2008 at 3:32 pm #2554003
Well….
by the listed ‘g man’ · about 16 years ago
In reply to Incorrect!
Did not care that much to go through and remove them. Was just for information. Nothing wrong with a little Ctrl C, Ctrl V every now and again.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:38 am #2454235
Maybe…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
We could start our own country, like the Conch Replublic. I nominate Tigger2 for president and Gadgetgirl for Vice President.
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March 5, 2008 at 7:45 am #2454226
Great Idea!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Maybe…
Are you treasurer?
Can I hit you for the cost of airfare to the Inaugural Meeting? First Class?
Five star hotel?
Please?
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 7:57 am #2454215
Alas
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Great Idea!
Like everybody else I’m broke. 🙁
How about we start our country in cyberspace? We could start with an election and once we have a leader we could apply for aid from other nations. 😀
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March 5, 2008 at 7:59 am #2454209
Ed, I like the way….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Alas
you think.
Aid from other nations, hmm? Can we ask Nigeria perchance?!
ok, cyberspace it is.
Hey, Jaqui just started doing hosting…. could we live on him?
]:)
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 8:05 am #2454199
Repeat after me…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Ed, I like the way….
Diplomatic immunity.
Before we start I need to re-read Evil Geniuses in a Nutshell. Maybe if I scrape the glow-in-the-dark stuff off a few thousand watches we can be a nuclear power.
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March 5, 2008 at 8:08 am #2454195
o…………….k
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Repeat after me…
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity…………… have I got it yet? ……….
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
Diplomatic Immunity
………………….. Ed? ………….GG
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March 5, 2008 at 8:15 am #2454191
Yep…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to o…………….k
Now you can get-way with more things and if you’re caught they can’t do anything to you. 😉
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March 5, 2008 at 10:07 am #2454109
~rotflmao~
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Ed, I like the way….
but then I could tax us. ]:)
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March 5, 2008 at 10:28 am #2454096
and better yet
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to ~rotflmao~
be the one to decide and administer proper punishment…. :0
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March 6, 2008 at 1:58 am #2553853
Proper punishment for you, jd –
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to and better yet
extra loud repeating show tunes for 24 hours!!
:p :p
( 😡 )
GG
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March 8, 2008 at 9:26 am #2555186
Punishment for JD?
by nicknielsen · about 16 years ago
In reply to and better yet
Hmm, let me think. No, not just JD. Everybody. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnjkb4q6FKU
Allow me a cruel chuckle. ]:)
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March 6, 2008 at 1:57 am #2553854
But Jaq, dear…..
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to ~rotflmao~
you could tax us, yes, but for [i] [b] some [/i] [/b] of us, would you allow payment in (un)kind?? ]:)
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 10:15 am #2454105
Hey, that is a better idea than
by w2ktechman · about 16 years ago
In reply to Alas
the religion of SCUM….’
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March 5, 2008 at 11:20 am #2554154
A tech religion
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Hey, that is a better idea than
Apple Computer: the only company that can get tax-free status as a religion. 😉
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March 5, 2008 at 12:10 pm #2554115
not a tech religion
by w2ktechman · about 16 years ago
In reply to A tech religion
a religion based on not taking responsibility for your own actions (such as a large part of the public). Hence the religion of SCUM (see, it fits). Basically, do as you want, and if you get into trouble ‘your religion made you do it’ :^0 What an awesome thing. To always have an excuse handy!!!
Currently there are many high up positions needed to be filled, so post your loyalty now and receive a free membership!!!
Later, when we start taxing..er..I mean charging a percentage of income (to make me and the higher ups rich), you can gain 😀 😀Of course the Diplomatic Immunity thing is sooo much more cool 🙁 And the option of getting aid for being such a poor country 🙁
So your idea is better still, and you also have the option to tax 🙁 This means the country idea has a much better ability to make execs rich… And I am not even one of them 🙁 🙁
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March 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm #2554091
I am both
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to not a tech religion
the taxer and head of religion. ]:)
since I am the head of my religion 😀
I get to screw the people both ways. ]:)
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March 5, 2008 at 1:41 pm #2554061
Jaqui..
by maecuff · about 16 years ago
In reply to not a tech religion
It’s good to be the king, huh?
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March 6, 2008 at 2:08 am #2553850
Jaq….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to not a tech religion
you’re wanting it [i] all ways [/i] again, aren’t you?!
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 3:46 am #2553827
GG
by maecuff · about 16 years ago
In reply to not a tech religion
I think that is the nature of that beast. 🙂
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March 6, 2008 at 8:58 am #2553644
wanting?
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to not a tech religion
naw, I have it. :p
not my fault that my “wiccan” beliefs are unique, making me the only “Member” of my religion. :p
if there isn’t anyone else, I’m both the higest and lowest ranked member of the church. 😀
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March 5, 2008 at 7:56 am #2454216
Darnitalltoh3ll….
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Na
I was so busy trying to get over there, I missed the “vice” remark.
Nice pick up there, jd 😡
Now, where’s the batmobile? It’s got all the vithe in thatth needed for thum fun….
]:)
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 4:39 am #2553813
If…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Darnitalltoh3ll….
GG, if you want to get even with JD, just appoint him Ambassador to Mongolia.
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March 6, 2008 at 5:28 am #2553793
oh, you mean
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to If…
OUTER Mongolia. Right?
good one, Ed – do you happen to know if they play showtunes there? 😀 😀 😀
(ok, jd, I’m ducking….. :p )
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 6:10 am #2553766
Showtunes
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to oh, you mean
GG, there is a cure that JD might try to get the showtunes out of his head. From personel experiance I know it also works for the Disney It’s a Small World song.
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March 6, 2008 at 10:44 am #2553584
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March 5, 2008 at 7:53 am #2454218
Perhaps…
by the listed ‘g man’ · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
If the UK was to split on to England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland the term British would not exist anyway.
Looking at recent events Scotland wants independance from Britain. Now without Scotland, there would be no Britain (as there would be no GB to union with N. Ireland).
If Scotland went there is not much doubt that Wales would follow close behind.
So the term ‘British’ is getting old hat anyway (or so it seems).
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March 5, 2008 at 8:03 am #2454204
They might as well
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Perhaps…
they’ve divvied up everything else – why not good old Britain.
Doesn’t seem to be much to keep it hanging around for.
GG
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March 5, 2008 at 8:22 am #2454187
Ah, but
by neilb@uk · about 16 years ago
In reply to Perhaps…
Great Britain is a geographical and not a political entity. The Scots, Welsh and the patriotic English, for all that they might wish or say otherwise, are British by being natives of the Island of Great Britain. The Northern Irish are not British unless you twist the definition into a political entity.
Neil 🙂
The chances of sufficient numbers of the Welsh being stupid enough to vote for independence is very, very slim. The Scots may be stupid enough but I think that they would come to regret it.
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March 5, 2008 at 9:05 am #2454154
Cultural differences
by oz_media · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
GG – Britain, much like Canada is a multicultural country, as compared to the USA which would be a melting pot of cultures.
Because of this, citizens are able to acccept ‘cultural’ differences and make it acceptable to immigrate, but the line between good and evil is a fine one and Canada too has stepped back and forth across it, just as teh US has with the melting pot system.
[b]PROS:[/b]
[u]Multicultural:[/u] accepts immigration AND the immigrants choice of culture. This has its pros too, it enables children to grow up understanding the cultural differences between races and become more accepting of those differences.[u]Melting POt:[/u]accepts immigration but NOT the immigrants culture or religion. Immigrants are expected to assimilate and become a US citizen, speak US English and even absorb Western religion (of course Christianity would be preferred).
CONS:
[u]Mulitcultural:[/u]The fine line between acceptance is often crossed/abused. While we have laws pertaining to immigration acceptance, those same laws can be abused (of course, as can all laws)to push for more. Such as Boy Scouts changing their promise from ‘God and queen…” to “MY god and Queen”, East Indians in eth RCMP are not allowed to wear turbans, despite years of contest regarding official RCMP uniforms vs religious acceptance. Mind you, most Indian RCMP don’t bother with the turban as tehy know how controversial it is, so they wear the correct uniform and don’t push the line.
Your post is just another example of how this multicultural acceptance gets pushed a little too far.[u]Meltingpot:[/u]The drawbacks to being a meltin pot is that you can’t’ claim to really be multicultural and accepting of difference if you expect assimilation. Alternate religions, languages and cultures are invited to become ‘American’ but retaining that culture, religion, language is frowned upon. How many times have we seen that displayed here alone? The drwback is that it builds a nation of people unwilling to accept difference, unwilling to adjust their ways to make it easier for someone else to live in the ocuntry. Unwilling to learn about a different culture. It is ALMOST (now I’ll get flamed for this) a Nazi mindset where people are ALLOWED to live there but the ‘pure US cutizens’ ae considerd superior and simply allowing people to share their soace while they become American. It results in reduced cultural education, an ignorance towards difference, and an outward air that you can become a citizen of the US but YOU are not okay as is. Children don’t learn to accept cultural difference etc.
When I was young, I had a friend who was Hindi, learned a bit of Hindi (very little) learned about Hindi cooking and religion. Another was Japanese so I learned about Japanese foods, Bhuddism, etc. When I wentr to teh US to stay with fellow Scouting groups, the troops were dominantly caucasian, the kids we stayed with only had caucasian friends etc.
I will nto suggest that this causes wars at all, but in teh same sense, it does not teach people to understand or try to understand cultural differences. We have seen countless people here who have obviously no understanding of the Middle East, cultures, religions etc. In Canada (and teh UK) it is easier to understand and accept as we are surrounded by the same culture and diversity which teaches us to learn and not repel cultural difference.
I can guarantee you one thing though, the UK compared to Canada is very different in that the UK is closer to being a melting pot than Canada is. In the UK I find many if not the majority of Indians are pretty well educated and well spoken, often with an English accnent, especially younger generations.
In Canada, an East Indian is an East Indian. they have a different way of consudcting business, which you learn to work with and accept. They have mosques and temples EVERYWHERE, which again we learn to accept.
But the whole government cowtowing to immigrants is just where that fine line gets tripped over all the time. One decision is seen as discrimination, the other can be seen as unjust changes to an existign society or culture.
Face it, the world’s borders are dissolving fast. Computers unite and bring together so many countries as we find new ways to work together and benefit from each other. We simply must get used to accpeting these changes, sometimes even seeming wrong (they will change again in time anyway), but we are better off for it in teh long run. our children will be better off and perhas, just one day, not in mu lifetime, the world’s cultures will acdcept and find benefit in differences, instead of fear. Hopefully we will have returned to our individual cultures as while we accept others, they must also accept teh fact that we need ot retain our OWN cultures too.
I say all this in complete hypocisy, while living in a land stolen from the origal inhabitants who were forced to change in order to accept OUR ways, just as is so in the USA too. Mind you, I LOVE North America’s native Indian culture and really wish they got a better deal when we came aboard.
In a sense, we don’t have any right to dictate what an immigrant does or doesn’t do here, in fact we should just feel lucky that they immmigrate instead fo going to war everytime a new culture wants to take over North America. Why not, we did it?
Wow, lots of thoughts, sorry about that but it is a subject I take great interest in.
EDIT TO ADD EVEN MORE: I too have the feeling that if you WANT to come here because it is a better life, better government, better income, better opportunity etc. Then do so. But you can’t expect us to change our LAWS to match what you had before. You LEAVE that behind, can’t have the best of both worlds. I also see laws as being VERY different from cultural or religious issues. Indians are allowed to carry kirpans in Canada, thier children were crrying them to school at one time. (those long curly knives that they wear on a sash).
This is where it crosses the line, knives of that length are illegal in our country (as far as carrying one in public) ESPECIALY in a school. But they fight the ocurts because in India they are allowed to do so. THIS is where it goes too far, wear your turban, tell me why you war it and educate my son too. Tell him about your kirpan and religion, but DON’T carry a weapon to a school my child attends.(okay he’s all grown up now but still, he COULD have been attending that school) 🙂 .
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March 5, 2008 at 10:26 am #2454097
Melting vs multi, a quick thought
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to Cultural differences
Canada has two official languages, correct? In a true multicultural country, why? Simple, it is in the best interests of everyone if we can talk a common language, so we can communicate.
In the US, people are not forced to leave their religion behind, provided it does not violate laws, such as honor killings, stoning of an adulterous wife [i](I kind of like that law…)[/i] or the ability to have as many wives from pre-arranged marriages as you wish.
In Michigan, we have one of the largest Muslim communities in the Country, and they have their mosques. True, the are not allowed to broadcast their call to pray, but they are still fighting that in court. Does their religion trump the rights of the non-muslims that live in that region? of course not.
Immigrants are not told to forget their heritage or to leave it behind them, but they ARE told to live here, speak English, and have a good life and enjoy the opportunities that are here that were not in their native lands.
If people are not united by a common language, then there can never be understanding of each other just because you can’t communicate. EVERYONE benefits by that.
At the same time, the immigrants should not be able to demand that existing traditions be stopped. The Aussies had it right, if you don’t like it here, leave.
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March 5, 2008 at 6:52 pm #2553934
Funny you sound a lot like a Quebecer….
by jamesrl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Melting vs multi, a quick thought
Quebec has been fighting to keep their language and culture pure for a while, it became legislated in the 70s. There are small towns in Quebec which are passing very directed laws at Muslims which seem to have the purpose of discouraging them from settling there.
http://municipalite.herouxville.qc.ca/Standards.pdf
Read it and enjoy.
James
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March 6, 2008 at 5:54 am #2553773
Sounds like they have most of it right
by jdclyde · about 16 years ago
In reply to Funny you sound a lot like a Quebecer….
[i]”Moreover, in many of our schools no prayer is allowed.”[/i]
Wow, I didn’t know they were anti-religion.
I would think women in general should favor this to keep women slaves from being brought into the region under the guise of marriage.
I don’t see this as trying to discourage muslims, simply informing them before hand that they way they treat women is barbaric and will not be tolerated. They can either become civilized and treat women with respect and as equals or they can stay in whatever war-torn shithole they came from.
Sounds reasonable to me.
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March 6, 2008 at 12:11 pm #2553553
Quebec and the Catholic Church
by jamesrl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Sounds like they have most of it right
Back in the bad old days when Quebecers were mostly rural and English men ran business in Montreal, the Catholic church truly dominated Quebec. From the pulpit, the Quebecois were told how to vote, how many children to have, how to spend their money etc. Women were second class citizens.
In the 60s, many things changed. Jobs brought people into the cities. Francophones had more access to good jobs. Women entered the workforce. Married women started to keep their maiden names. More people went to university. The birthrate dropped dramatically.
So there is a little bit of backlash against the Catholic Church in Quebec. French schools used to be Catholic but no more.
James
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March 6, 2008 at 2:17 am #2553848
Oz, I sincerely appreciate that reply.
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years ago
In reply to Cultural differences
– especially your expansion of the differences between multicultural and melting pot. Spot on! I wholeheartedly (and very firmly) agree with you.
ok, go ahead, frame this post! 😉
On a lighter note, I tried reading this last night, sadly after one or two of my favourite “painkillers” and apart from having [u] extreme difficulty[/u] with your typos (no change there – that’s just you! 😡 ) was unfortunate enough to conjour up a mental image due to some wording you used of a dalek wearing a Sikh turban…..
wha’?! 😀 :p :0 ;\
GG
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March 6, 2008 at 10:05 am #2553605
a salt cellar in a tuban?
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Oz, I sincerely appreciate that reply.
you are warped hon. 😀
[ ok, so it shows how much I paid attention to it back then 😉 ]
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March 5, 2008 at 9:37 am #2454131
Cmon over to Georgia, y’all
by robo_dev · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Where evolution is just a theory, gun control means using both hands when you pull the trigger, and you don’t have to wear your seatbelt if you drive a pickup truck.
On the other hand, there are tons of IT jobs, homes are dirt cheap, and you can drive as fast as your car can go on the freeway.
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March 5, 2008 at 9:43 am #2454124
And…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Cmon over to Georgia, y’all
The pecan pie is GREAT! If you ignore that it’s pronounced pee-can. 🙂
Seriously, you should mention the food.
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March 5, 2008 at 11:27 am #2554149
It’s pronounced
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to And…
Puh-cahn. At least, that’s what I use. I can’t STAND IT when people pronounce it PEE-CAN. I propose the first ammendement to the constitution of the Cyber Country of Jacqui. Pecan must be pronounced Puh-cahn. Failure to do so will result in death by firing squad of sling shots with pecan ammo.
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March 5, 2008 at 12:03 pm #2554124
Sorry…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to It’s pronounced
I spent too much time in Alabama, where they do say PEE-CAN. Oddly enough, they also say PEE-CAN in Scranton Pennsylvania where they also call a green bell pepper a mango.
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March 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm #2554086
That’s OK
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to Sorry…
I was in my grocery store and I noticed that they labeled Fennel as Anise. One’s a vegetable, and the other is a spice. Fennel and Anise are not the same things. I told the produce manager that he’d labeled the veggies wrong, and I got a blank stare. Of course, the kid at the checkout looked at the leeks that I bought and wondered at how big the green onions were. For gosh’s sake, watch the food network, man!
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March 6, 2008 at 4:42 am #2553812
Food network
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s OK
I met Alton Brown once; he told me that he hates me. All I did was ask what to do if a recipe had an ingredient that was extinct? 🙁
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March 6, 2008 at 12:51 pm #2553527
Why do you never see…
by gsg · about 16 years ago
In reply to Food network
Why don’t you ever see them make something with squirrel, or rabbit, or deer? They’ve used rabbit and venison on iron chef, but come on, give these guys a real challenge!
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March 8, 2008 at 9:40 am #2555182
I’ll agree with that, sort of
by nicknielsen · about 16 years ago
In reply to It’s pronounced
I grew up pronouncing it “Peh-kahn.”
Pee-can? The house I grew up in had no heat or samitary facilities on the bedroom level. The Pee Can was under the bed. 😉
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March 8, 2008 at 9:46 am #2555180
that was
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to I’ll agree with that, sort of
the potfer
the pot fer to piss in. 😀
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March 8, 2008 at 11:30 am #2555167
Yessir!
by nicknielsen · about 16 years ago
In reply to that was
I never understood why my grandmother called it a chamber pot. It wasn’t a pot, it was a can.
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March 9, 2008 at 1:07 am #2555052
because
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Yessir!
they used to be fired clay containers or else metal containers, with handles and lids, just like the pots of the time. that’s where the name came from. 🙂
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March 9, 2008 at 7:32 am #2554980
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March 5, 2008 at 11:40 am #2554143
IT Terminology Dictionary for the Southern US
by robo_dev · about 16 years ago
In reply to And…
Tore Up = broken “he tore up that laptop real good”
Mash On = press. “Go ahead and mash on the enter key”
Cut Off = switch off. “Go ahead and cut off that thar light switch”
That dog won’t hunt = Ping response failed
Bless her heart = user empathy response when data is lost
Fixin’ to = getting prepared to act “I’m fixin to compact the database”
Jeet Yet = question to indicate whether lunch plans are possible
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March 6, 2008 at 4:47 am #2553811
Translations
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to IT Terminology Dictionary for the Southern US
When I was in Alabama a lady from Pennsylvania asked a local, ?What?s y?all?? Before the southerner could respond I blurted out, ?Use-guys.? To which the lady said, ?Oh, ok.? I though that the southerner was going to bust something laughing. 🙂
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March 5, 2008 at 10:21 am #2454102
Come on over…
by naughtymonkey · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
I recently liberated my mother-in-law from her suite in the backyard (or maybe that is liberated the house from her since it is in much better condition and isn’t dusty at all). Oh well, it is fully furnished with excellent decor.
Of course, it is just as obnoxious and irritating in this country as well. 😉
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March 5, 2008 at 12:24 pm #2554106
While we’re talking about Poms…
by jmgarvin · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
What is wrong with the Aussies and Kiwis? Do you have no tastebuds? You do know that Vegemite tastes awful, don’t you? 😉
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March 6, 2008 at 4:55 pm #2553432
Death be on your head
by drowningnotwaving · about 16 years ago
In reply to While we’re talking about Poms…
Vegemite has many uses.
First, food. It’s brilliant. Only a fool, or anyone who thinks that yellow gunk that they serve in the USA is really mustard, would say otherwise.
Second when you have rust patches in the floor of your car: cover the hole with cardboard from the inside, smear the outside with thick vegemite, then drive up and down a dusty road. The inspector will never know the difference when you have the annual roadworthiness inspection on your car.
And you so flippantly ridicule it ???
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March 7, 2008 at 5:44 am #2553283
I have got to…
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Death be on your head
Try Vegemite. Since I’m in the US I’m going to have to hunt it down.
One question, how do you suggest that I try it?
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March 7, 2008 at 7:18 am #2553239
RE [i]how do you suggest that I try it?[/i]
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to I have got to…
Very Sparingly Ed. It’s dangerous and you need to treat it with respect. 😀
I’ve seen a lot of people who have never eaten it previously trowel it on like Jam or as the Americans call it Jelly. That amount of Vegemite is most likely [b]FATAL.[/b] :^0
Col
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March 7, 2008 at 10:17 am #2553163
Ok
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to RE [i]how do you suggest that I try it?[/i]
I’ll treat it the way most people treat Wasabi. I say most people, because with my Slavic ancestry I find the pain similar to that of horseradish, exquisite. I think Kraft makes Vegemite in the US, maybe I’ll contact them directly.
I’ll be careful, but remember; that which does not kill us merely postpones the inevitable. 😀
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March 8, 2008 at 6:51 am #2555216
When I was so much younger than today
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to Ok
My Mommy forced me to eat that stuff and I didn’t like it then either.
About all it was good for was torturing the kids by forcing them to eat it. Now they like it and are still alive. :_|
It really is a [b]Evil Foul Black Spread[/b] though and a very definite Acquired Taste. :^0
Col
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March 8, 2008 at 9:48 am #2555179
I’ve heard…
by nicknielsen · about 16 years ago
In reply to When I was so much younger than today
…that you can improve (cover?) the taste of vegemite by slathering it with horseradish or good German mittelsharfer senf (medium hot mustard).
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March 8, 2008 at 5:31 pm #2555108
The best way to improve the flavor of Vegemite
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to When I was so much younger than today
Is to throw it in the Bin and not eat it.
Works every time with no complaints about the flavor. 😀
Col
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March 8, 2008 at 6:07 pm #2555101
Vegemite?
by w2ktechman · about 16 years ago
In reply to When I was so much younger than today
Sounds like it needs pesticides to kill it :^0
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March 8, 2008 at 6:25 pm #2555099
Actually I think that pesticides
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to When I was so much younger than today
Would be [b]Totally Obliterated[/b] by the Vegemite.
I believe that it is the product of Chemical Warfare that has proved impossible to destroy so it was sold to the unsuspecting public as a Food. 😀
Yep what else can I say we Aussies are a tough lot. :^0
Col
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March 9, 2008 at 5:38 pm #2554863
Just like Wasabi is a VERY good policy
by drowningnotwaving · about 16 years ago
In reply to Ok
On toast.
Too much WILL NOT kill you but it may turn you into a cross between Brad Pitt, Arnold Schwartznegger and Dave Grohl.
It explains why Australian and New Zealand men are irresistable to women of the world.
Well it’s one reason anyway – there are others.
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March 7, 2008 at 6:23 am #2553261
Annual inspection?
by locolobo · about 16 years ago
In reply to Death be on your head
You have to have your vehicle inspected annually? We used to have annual pollution tests but now we can go every 2 yrs. We still pay though.
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March 7, 2008 at 6:45 am #2553254
Annual inspection
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to Annual inspection?
Pennsylvania is annual, too. 🙁
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March 9, 2008 at 5:33 pm #2554864
Annual inspections – as an aside ..
by drowningnotwaving · about 16 years ago
In reply to Annual inspection?
Brakes, lights, safety equipment, tyres, roadworthiness etc.
Only cars under 3 years old are exempt.
If you keep your car in good condition it’s not toomuch of an imposition – takes about 15 minutes and costs $30 or so.
But if you don’t keep your car up-to-date the inspector will go over it with a fine tooth comb – the inspector can also be liable for any damage / injury the car does within 90 days of the inspection, if it is found to be the fault of something they should have picked up.
I know that many of these things can seem like an imposition to other folks, particularly those from the USA. And I guess it is, in a way. But the fact remains that last year our state had its lowest road toll in over 60 years and that is in absolute terms. Given the growth in population (nearly three times in that period) the reduction is immense! There are a lot of contributing factors in this, but the best result is literally hundreds of millions of tax dollars NOT having to be spent on hospitals, police and ambulance crews.
So in general we’re happy to put up with compulsory seat-belts, annual vehicle inspections, speed cameras and random breath testing. Very few people see these activities as impinging on our personal freedoms. I think most people over here agree the larger personal freedom is the ability to drive and feel safe.
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March 9, 2008 at 9:32 pm #2556141
South Carolina used to have annual inspections
by nicknielsen · about 16 years ago
In reply to Annual inspections – as an aside ..
Now we don’t have them at all. It all happened before I got here, but as I understand it:
1. The inspection was cursory at best: lamps, horn, and brakes.
2. Anybody with $50 could become an inspector.
3. There were no consequences to inspectors.
4. The inspection fee was “too high.”
5. It violated the “right to drive.”I’m sure the actual reason inspections were repealed here in SC is a combination of the above factors and others, with (knowing my adopted home state as I do) numbers 4 and 5 in the forefront.
So now you see vehicles driving down the road with pieces falling off, with burned-out lamps, cracked windshields, mis-aligned headlamps, etc., etc., etc. I’ve even seen the one truck several times, moving down the road after dark with only parking lights and emergency flashers. What a farging moron! How expensive are headlamps?
And they wonder why we have a high death rate on our highways…
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March 10, 2008 at 8:21 am #2555959
Yea it’s different over here
by locolobo · about 16 years ago
In reply to Annual inspections – as an aside ..
but it’s changed too. My dad was a truck driver. When I was young we never took a trip over 10 mi without checking the vehicle, fluids, lights, signals, etc. He checked weekly regardless. We were poor but Dad’s reasoning was he couldn’t afford a ticket or accident.
As a young man and later I’ve seen a lot of people who didn’t have the money to buy a headlamp, or have the knowledge to fix the turn signal etc. You wouldn’t believe the people who otherwise looked intelligent pulled into the service station where I worked saying their engine light was on. Their car would be completely dry of oil or water and they would drive it until it started smoking! Now they don’t have to worry about not being able to afford a quart of oil!
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March 7, 2008 at 8:30 am #2553211
vegemite
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Death be on your head
some sort of piss-poor peanutbutter substitute isn’t it.
like ovaltineis to hot cocoa, vegemite is to peanutbutter.
I’ll stick with the REAL THING, the cocoa and peanutbutter, the cheap substitutes can be used by those with no taste buds, or to keep rattletraps that should be condemned on the road.
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March 9, 2008 at 5:22 pm #2554867
Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!
by drowningnotwaving · about 16 years ago
In reply to vegemite
That’s like comparing a milk shake to beer. They may both be fluid but the comparison ends just about there.
Your name and avatar have been given to the foreign affairs department. And Interpol too.
🙂
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March 10, 2008 at 3:31 am #2556086
Now be nice after all Jaqui has seen American Beer
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!
So it’s very close to Mothers Milk. :p
Col ]:)
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March 10, 2008 at 3:36 am #2556083
nope
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Now be nice after all Jaqui has seen American Beer
american beer is close to p!ss.
tasteless, bodyless coloured water.
it’s also known as recycled beer, from ANY other country in the world. -
March 10, 2008 at 5:55 am #2556045
American beer
by ed woychowsky · about 16 years ago
In reply to nope
My tastes run more along the lines of Belgium ales, but the best description of American beer was made by the Canadian group The Tartan Terrors, “a non-alcoholic beverage.” 😀
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March 10, 2008 at 6:02 am #2556033
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March 10, 2008 at 3:38 am #2556082
ok, it’s not
by jaqui · about 16 years ago
In reply to Vegemite V. Peanut Butter ????????? Jacqui you fuuul!!
like peanut butter, it’s TAR flavoured spread for anyone foolish enough to eat it. ]:)
still a toxic substance.
and anyone that likes it is letting everyone around them know they should be locked up in rubber room for their own safety.
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March 5, 2008 at 6:40 pm #2553937
Well GG it’s like this
by hal 9000 · about 16 years ago
In reply to That’s the final straw: someone get me out of the UK
Till you loose that Accent no one can understand you so you’ll have to stay put. :p
Suck it up and live with it [b]Winging Poms[/b] drive me nuts. Probably why the song Willy The Winging Pom was written as well I would think. :^0
Stop complaining and rig the next Erection so that you can get rid of the Offending Pollies. B-)
See how a bit of lateral thinking always solves the problems. 😀
Col ]:)
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