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UtopiaBoy
I have an HP computer with XP SP2, Intel 2.70 Ghz, 503 MB Ram
I have been concerned with loading time in IE 7.0. I signed up for Clearwire a month ago and at first I was getting considerably faster downloads. Someone on a forum suggested that I run a memory diagnostic test.
When I googled, I found a lot of suggestions about the "Ultimate Boot CD"
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
Boy am I sorry that I ever considered this. Here are the rack of problems I experienced:
1) During a long download, I finally got an error message saying that it could not continue downloading in any folder with a space in it, re: Documents and Settings. So, I set up a separate C: UBCD folder.
2) I still got the error message about spaces, but there were no spaces. Meanwhile, I had a gazillion bytes in two different locations of files that were incomplete. So I tried to delete them in both places. And the horrorshow kicked up a notch.
3) I had no uninstall to use, so I tried deleting them to Recycle Bin. That worked partially but then some of the folders replicated themselves as "copy as" so I now had three folders of crap.
4) And my virus detection program started going crazy. I was informed that the following viruses were present in the download -- from Downloads.com, of all places, which I have always trusted in the past:
? Application.tool.Wget.A
? Trojan.PWS.Ras.A
? Application.currprocess.C
? Keyfinder.exe
5) After two sweeps with antivirus, I finally unhooked the Trojan.PWS.Ras.A and Application.Currprocess.C
And checking with the http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
the site owner swears that the virus warnings are just "false positives" and the files are not really there. Well, yes they are. Still.
6) Meanwhile, I have managed to delete the files except for the folders
oem1
plugin
which are mega-packed with files and the files with the virus

So my question is:
1) Have any of you experienced the same problem with Mega Boot?
2) Is it a scam?
3) How in the **** do I get these remaining folders off my system

Thanks in advance
P.S. Oops. Is there a better memory diagostic tool or is there another solution to the problems I am trying to correct:
1) Slooooooooooooooooooww performance. 30 seconds or more for "save-as" boxes or "find" to appear
2) Over a minute to open Internet 7 at times
3) When I open a new tab in IE7, it sometimes takes over a minute for the tab to open to the site I want, with an interruption where (not responding) shows on the title bar

My specs are above.
Thanks
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    Tig2

    I have heard Ultimate suggested in the past. Don't know that I am willing to look too much harder at it given your experience.

    There are two possible things that may work on your unwanted files. Crap Cleaner is great for things that get left on the system from incomplete installs- www.ccleaner.com. All the usual warnings about the registry and I strongly suggest that you run it recursively as it is not designed to do so. Great free tool.

    The second is called "Your Uninstaller". I have used it like you would the recycle bin- just drop things in, they never come out. Last time I had it running, it was a 30 day trial. http://www.shareup.com/your-uninstaller.html

    Personally, I think that the problem may be as much IE7 as anything else. I have heard a number of people say that it had some odd impacts to their machine.

    Hope it isn't raining too hard in Washington. Used to live there in the early 90s.

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    UtopiaBoy

    Thank you for your suggestion.
    Unfortunately, I already tried crap cleaner but it didn't catch this pile of crap that I have left over from the unsuccessful Ultimate Boot/virus attack.

    Okay, would you suggest that I jetison IE7.0? and revert back to 6.0? How do I do that without a total nightmare? I know all the jokes and rags on Microsoft, but would they actually create an update 7.0 IE that slows down my XP with 512 megs ram to an absolute crawl? Things are so bad today that it took six minutes to open this page, clicking from an email link. And three minutes to open this replay panel. I am going berserk here. My XP machine is almost unusable now. I am having to use my old W98SE machine.

    Someone, please suggest how to shitcan the 7.0, if that is the answer, step-by-step, because I am a virgin.

    And would IE 7.0 be causing the looooonnngg delay in even opening "save as" and "find" boxes in Windows 2003 and notepad that have nothing to do with IE?

    Sign me,
    totally confused near Seattle
    Thanks again

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    Tig2

    That IE fu-bar'd Outlook. I have heard a LOT of frustration about the whole thing. Tried it on my test box and found that a previously reasonable machine went totally zonkers.

    I cheated on the uninstall. I did a wipe/reload. If that is even possible for you, that is the best way to go. I have heard (again- just listening to the voices out there) that IE7 makes a significant enough change to your system that backing out is not a good option.

    If you can, back up the stuff you want NOW to any media source you can. Put that back up in a safe place.

    Now, do a complete wipe and reload. If you have your original disks languishing in a corner someplace, now is their special moment. Fdisk, re-partition, format each partition, reload.

    Tomorrow when you wake up with QWERTY face from falling asleep on the keyboard, your nice clean OS should be right where you want it- on the computer.

    Now the tough part. Find all your original software disks. Start feeding the monster you are creating.

    If it helps any, I have had to do this with four computers (essentially 5- one re-load) in the last six months. Everyone got an upgrade, I do all the configuration for my family. It bites but sometimes it is the best thing.

    Now go to the Firefox website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
    and download and install Firefox. Don't go near IE any more. Also, just in case you haven't been introduced to them, try out these cool tools for AV and Firewall- http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1 and http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/trial_zaFamily/trial_zaFamily.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en

    My partner's company has begun blocking Windows Update to avoid having to fix computers that end up with IE7. I think that it is reasonable to assume that your problem started there. I can't speak to the Ultimate CD- I will be downloading it to see if I can reproduce your results. Mostly because I have never heard of anything like your experience with it.

    And just so you know- I am not a hater. I think that MS is entitled to do whatever they can to stay in business. But I think that they put the wrong product out at the wrong time. I don't think that IE7 went through adequate back compatibility testing before release. Just my opinion.

    If there is any way I can help, peer mail me. I am pretty sure I can get you through it.

    Hope it isn't raining on top of all this. Snow would be worse. I have friends that live on Queen Anne hill. They hate winter.

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    UtopiaBoy

    I installed Firefox and it is the difference between night and day.

    I am not even going to touch IE again. And especially I am not going to do a complete reinstall just to "enjoy" that piece of... well you know what I mean. Thank you very much for your suggestion. I am fine-tuning Firefox 2.0 right now. The windows open immediately. I am navigating without a hitch and NONE of the problems with IE 7.0 are cropping up. This is like a Brave New World without the trepidation. I wanted to mark your message very helpful but I don't see that button thingie?

    Bless your heart. You have made a heavy deposit into the karma bank.

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    jdclyde

    It is the questions that have the "button thingie".

    This has always been a problem, and with the change to TR it only increased some of the confusion, but I understand what they were trying to do.

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    Tig2

    I totally removed IE from both my pc and mother-in-laws pc. She loves the speed and being able to work between tabs. I just like things that work.

    Let us know how you get on.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    The Ultimate Boot CD download the ISO image and not the .EXE version as that is possibly corrupt and check the Checksums against what you've downloaded.

    I've never had a single problem with the Ultimate Boot CD and I've downloaded several different version of it over the years but I only ever consider the ISO images and never an .EXE HTTP File at least not on a Windows Machine which is miles to vulnerable to attack.

    Actually with the size of the download it may be cheaper for you to buy a copy from here

    http://tinyurl.com/23nmq

    At something from 99 cents to $1.99 with 49 cents postage it's much cheaper than downloading the beast at least if you live in the US as that's under $2.50 Max and you'll get the Disc fairly quickly.

    Col

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    UtopiaBoy

    Thank you very much for the advice. But could you explain and define the terms, ISO, etc.? You have to understand that many of us who get into frustrating situations are virgins about any of the technical terms and processes. And unfortunately when we look up the terms in glossaries and manuals, we often encounter dueling techies who insist that the other person's definition is all BS. Sigh.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    The Ultimate Boot CD only comes in an .EXE or a ZIP file. Rats they have changed the site since I last visited there to look see.

    But an ISO is an Image of a file that is harder to alter and infect. Unfortunately for many newcomers it's harder to convert back to the original file that you can boot from as well probably why the author has removed that option.

    But an ISO is an industry standard file system that is accepted world wide as probably the best way to obtain a downloaded file from the Internet.

    For a full description of what an ISO 9600 File System actually is you can read up on it here

    http://tinyurl.com/knyjd

    Personally I find that this is one of the Must Have tools and you are honestly the first person who I've ever heard complain about this download. But I've currently got the Zip version downloading on a Windows Box to see what happens.

    Col

    PS OK I've just finished the download off the main site and unzipped it to an ISO Image without a problem. It's burnt to a CD without one warning message of infections of any kind and the CD scans as clean on Norton's AV 2006, Trend Micro 2006, AVG 7.5 whatever, Zonex and a couple of other AV Products.

    I can only assume that the site that you downloaded the item from was infected itself and this caused your problems. I've found the same thing on M$ Live Update Site that it's infected by several nasties at different times always when I don't have the time to waste. It's unfortunate but it happens. Once you get a warning that the file you are downloading is infected stop it and try getting it from another source. But first clean up your own computer before you start somewhere else.

    It also helps if you stay away from .EXE files to download. The ZIP file that I downloaded burnt perfectly on Roxio Easy CD Creator which will automatically convert an ISO to a Bootable CD if you are using a different Burning program you'll need to look at the help files for a way to convert an ISO Image to a Bootable CD. Some Pieces of software make this easier than others.

    Actually if you want a good error message many years ago back in the Win 98 Days I got an Error message that told me Device 6 Is Missing. No matter what I tried I couldn't find out what Device 6 actually was and as everything was assembled correctly I rang M$ for a solution. After about 45 minutes I was told that I had not fitted a CPU as that was what Device 6 was supposed to be. I'm not quite sure to this day what was wrong but as I had obviously fitted a CPU and I couldn't get that error message without one fitted till this day I'm still unsure of just what exactly happened though when I wiped the drive and reloaded after a new Format it installed perfectly. Personally I think that many error messages from M$ leave a lot to be desired in a description of the problem, my current Favourite is Something Has Gone Wrong with whatever program. About as helpful as nothing but at least you have to click on it to allow the program to shut down without any idea of why it's happened. But when you reopen the program it works perfectly. I think that says a lot more about the quality of M$ Coding than anything else.

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    UtopiaBoy

    thank you very much for the explanation. I think I'll order the CD

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    cmiller5400

    I have used UBCD without finding a virus. It sounds like you may have been infected prior to the UBCD or the file was tampered with. As has been stated, sometimes a wipe is necessary. You could atleast try scanning in safe mode.

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    fachit

    Perhaps the site you were downloading from was. Try getting it straight from the author's website. It is a fine tool. For the record, I uninstalled IE7 without problems from the add/remove software in control panel. I got rid of IE7 because it did not keep my fav's list, or ANY of my saved settings like they promised. The uninstall gave me back IE6 with all my favorites and settings still in place. This was on a D845gvsr motherboard.

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    1bn0

    The Ultimate Boot CD has been around for sometime and seen a lot of use by technicians.

    It DOES contain utilities which CAN be used for illegitimate purposes.

    A locksmith has tools that can be used to pick locks. That doesn't automatically make him a criminal. It does make him the right person to call when you can't open a lock YOU OWN but have lost the key for.

    This link from The Ultimate Boot CD 4 Windows explains some of these "virus" warnings.

    http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm#false

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    UtopiaBoy

    As I noted when I originally posted, I downloaded the UBCD through Download.com at their main site. As the files downloaded, I started getting one virus warning after another and I listed them all above. After the download stopped, I swept my machine and both AVG and Bit Defender identified the same viruses.

    I did read the UBCD link re: false positives. Being a virgin and not a hip techie, I depend on my anti-virus programs to identify, isolate and hopefully neutralize viruses. Like many, many people out here who do not want to spend hours and days sorting out what two different sites say in complete contradiction to each other, we uneducated and unwashed pray that eventually program providers and virus experts will eventually talk to each other and resolve this geekeze that is a major pain in the *** to everyone. I have prayed for 20 years that Microsoft and other suppliers would finally provide a simple, user-friendly diagnostic system built into Windows that would explain in real English what a problem is and prescribe a solution. Not jibberish error messages and referrals to manuals -- printed or online -- that are packed with more geekeze that cannot be deciphered by anyone who is not a programmer.

    Now, after that rant, I want to assure you that I am not criticizing you personally. I have just had it up to here with conflicting "expert advice." This forum has been a godsend to all of us who are not card-carrying geeks and I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy day to answer my question.

    Disclaimer: no hamsters were injured while typing this message.

    And I grew up on a chicken farm and attended many rural circuses, so I am somewhat of an expert about observing geeks and their seeming relish in biting the heads off chickens.

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    1bn0

    I'm not sure what your original problem is. It sounds like it may be more than one thing.
    I would recommend you take it to a technician who can deal with it in person. (Sometimes that the only way to really tell whats going on )


    I understand your frustration.
    I've been in IT for over 16 years, it doesn't go away, it just changes.
    Some of learn patience and acceptance.
    And enjoy the challange.

    I really did not want you to be alienated from a very usfull set of utilities.
    There are many things like the UBCD. It IS difficult to know what to use and an experience like yours doesn't make things any more enjoyable.

    Good Luck.

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    Tig2

    I have heard Ultimate suggested in the past. Don't know that I am willing to look too much harder at it given your experience.

    There are two possible things that may work on your unwanted files. Crap Cleaner is great for things that get left on the system from incomplete installs- www.ccleaner.com. All the usual warnings about the registry and I strongly suggest that you run it recursively as it is not designed to do so. Great free tool.

    The second is called "Your Uninstaller". I have used it like you would the recycle bin- just drop things in, they never come out. Last time I had it running, it was a 30 day trial. http://www.shareup.com/your-uninstaller.html

    Personally, I think that the problem may be as much IE7 as anything else. I have heard a number of people say that it had some odd impacts to their machine.

    Hope it isn't raining too hard in Washington. Used to live there in the early 90s.

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    UtopiaBoy

    Thank you for your suggestion.
    Unfortunately, I already tried crap cleaner but it didn't catch this pile of crap that I have left over from the unsuccessful Ultimate Boot/virus attack.

    Okay, would you suggest that I jetison IE7.0? and revert back to 6.0? How do I do that without a total nightmare? I know all the jokes and rags on Microsoft, but would they actually create an update 7.0 IE that slows down my XP with 512 megs ram to an absolute crawl? Things are so bad today that it took six minutes to open this page, clicking from an email link. And three minutes to open this replay panel. I am going berserk here. My XP machine is almost unusable now. I am having to use my old W98SE machine.

    Someone, please suggest how to shitcan the 7.0, if that is the answer, step-by-step, because I am a virgin.

    And would IE 7.0 be causing the looooonnngg delay in even opening "save as" and "find" boxes in Windows 2003 and notepad that have nothing to do with IE?

    Sign me,
    totally confused near Seattle
    Thanks again

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    Tig2

    That IE fu-bar'd Outlook. I have heard a LOT of frustration about the whole thing. Tried it on my test box and found that a previously reasonable machine went totally zonkers.

    I cheated on the uninstall. I did a wipe/reload. If that is even possible for you, that is the best way to go. I have heard (again- just listening to the voices out there) that IE7 makes a significant enough change to your system that backing out is not a good option.

    If you can, back up the stuff you want NOW to any media source you can. Put that back up in a safe place.

    Now, do a complete wipe and reload. If you have your original disks languishing in a corner someplace, now is their special moment. Fdisk, re-partition, format each partition, reload.

    Tomorrow when you wake up with QWERTY face from falling asleep on the keyboard, your nice clean OS should be right where you want it- on the computer.

    Now the tough part. Find all your original software disks. Start feeding the monster you are creating.

    If it helps any, I have had to do this with four computers (essentially 5- one re-load) in the last six months. Everyone got an upgrade, I do all the configuration for my family. It bites but sometimes it is the best thing.

    Now go to the Firefox website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
    and download and install Firefox. Don't go near IE any more. Also, just in case you haven't been introduced to them, try out these cool tools for AV and Firewall- http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1 and http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/trial_zaFamily/trial_zaFamily.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en

    My partner's company has begun blocking Windows Update to avoid having to fix computers that end up with IE7. I think that it is reasonable to assume that your problem started there. I can't speak to the Ultimate CD- I will be downloading it to see if I can reproduce your results. Mostly because I have never heard of anything like your experience with it.

    And just so you know- I am not a hater. I think that MS is entitled to do whatever they can to stay in business. But I think that they put the wrong product out at the wrong time. I don't think that IE7 went through adequate back compatibility testing before release. Just my opinion.

    If there is any way I can help, peer mail me. I am pretty sure I can get you through it.

    Hope it isn't raining on top of all this. Snow would be worse. I have friends that live on Queen Anne hill. They hate winter.

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    UtopiaBoy

    I installed Firefox and it is the difference between night and day.

    I am not even going to touch IE again. And especially I am not going to do a complete reinstall just to "enjoy" that piece of... well you know what I mean. Thank you very much for your suggestion. I am fine-tuning Firefox 2.0 right now. The windows open immediately. I am navigating without a hitch and NONE of the problems with IE 7.0 are cropping up. This is like a Brave New World without the trepidation. I wanted to mark your message very helpful but I don't see that button thingie?

    Bless your heart. You have made a heavy deposit into the karma bank.

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    jdclyde

    It is the questions that have the "button thingie".

    This has always been a problem, and with the change to TR it only increased some of the confusion, but I understand what they were trying to do.

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    Tig2

    I totally removed IE from both my pc and mother-in-laws pc. She loves the speed and being able to work between tabs. I just like things that work.

    Let us know how you get on.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    The Ultimate Boot CD download the ISO image and not the .EXE version as that is possibly corrupt and check the Checksums against what you've downloaded.

    I've never had a single problem with the Ultimate Boot CD and I've downloaded several different version of it over the years but I only ever consider the ISO images and never an .EXE HTTP File at least not on a Windows Machine which is miles to vulnerable to attack.

    Actually with the size of the download it may be cheaper for you to buy a copy from here

    http://tinyurl.com/23nmq

    At something from 99 cents to $1.99 with 49 cents postage it's much cheaper than downloading the beast at least if you live in the US as that's under $2.50 Max and you'll get the Disc fairly quickly.

    Col

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    UtopiaBoy

    Thank you very much for the advice. But could you explain and define the terms, ISO, etc.? You have to understand that many of us who get into frustrating situations are virgins about any of the technical terms and processes. And unfortunately when we look up the terms in glossaries and manuals, we often encounter dueling techies who insist that the other person's definition is all BS. Sigh.

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    HAL 9000 Moderator

    The Ultimate Boot CD only comes in an .EXE or a ZIP file. Rats they have changed the site since I last visited there to look see.

    But an ISO is an Image of a file that is harder to alter and infect. Unfortunately for many newcomers it's harder to convert back to the original file that you can boot from as well probably why the author has removed that option.

    But an ISO is an industry standard file system that is accepted world wide as probably the best way to obtain a downloaded file from the Internet.

    For a full description of what an ISO 9600 File System actually is you can read up on it here

    http://tinyurl.com/knyjd

    Personally I find that this is one of the Must Have tools and you are honestly the first person who I've ever heard complain about this download. But I've currently got the Zip version downloading on a Windows Box to see what happens.

    Col

    PS OK I've just finished the download off the main site and unzipped it to an ISO Image without a problem. It's burnt to a CD without one warning message of infections of any kind and the CD scans as clean on Norton's AV 2006, Trend Micro 2006, AVG 7.5 whatever, Zonex and a couple of other AV Products.

    I can only assume that the site that you downloaded the item from was infected itself and this caused your problems. I've found the same thing on M$ Live Update Site that it's infected by several nasties at different times always when I don't have the time to waste. It's unfortunate but it happens. Once you get a warning that the file you are downloading is infected stop it and try getting it from another source. But first clean up your own computer before you start somewhere else.

    It also helps if you stay away from .EXE files to download. The ZIP file that I downloaded burnt perfectly on Roxio Easy CD Creator which will automatically convert an ISO to a Bootable CD if you are using a different Burning program you'll need to look at the help files for a way to convert an ISO Image to a Bootable CD. Some Pieces of software make this easier than others.

    Actually if you want a good error message many years ago back in the Win 98 Days I got an Error message that told me Device 6 Is Missing. No matter what I tried I couldn't find out what Device 6 actually was and as everything was assembled correctly I rang M$ for a solution. After about 45 minutes I was told that I had not fitted a CPU as that was what Device 6 was supposed to be. I'm not quite sure to this day what was wrong but as I had obviously fitted a CPU and I couldn't get that error message without one fitted till this day I'm still unsure of just what exactly happened though when I wiped the drive and reloaded after a new Format it installed perfectly. Personally I think that many error messages from M$ leave a lot to be desired in a description of the problem, my current Favourite is Something Has Gone Wrong with whatever program. About as helpful as nothing but at least you have to click on it to allow the program to shut down without any idea of why it's happened. But when you reopen the program it works perfectly. I think that says a lot more about the quality of M$ Coding than anything else.

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    UtopiaBoy

    thank you very much for the explanation. I think I'll order the CD

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    cmiller5400

    I have used UBCD without finding a virus. It sounds like you may have been infected prior to the UBCD or the file was tampered with. As has been stated, sometimes a wipe is necessary. You could atleast try scanning in safe mode.

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    fachit

    Perhaps the site you were downloading from was. Try getting it straight from the author's website. It is a fine tool. For the record, I uninstalled IE7 without problems from the add/remove software in control panel. I got rid of IE7 because it did not keep my fav's list, or ANY of my saved settings like they promised. The uninstall gave me back IE6 with all my favorites and settings still in place. This was on a D845gvsr motherboard.

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    1bn0

    The Ultimate Boot CD has been around for sometime and seen a lot of use by technicians.

    It DOES contain utilities which CAN be used for illegitimate purposes.

    A locksmith has tools that can be used to pick locks. That doesn't automatically make him a criminal. It does make him the right person to call when you can't open a lock YOU OWN but have lost the key for.

    This link from The Ultimate Boot CD 4 Windows explains some of these "virus" warnings.

    http://www.ubcd4win.com/faq.htm#false

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    UtopiaBoy

    As I noted when I originally posted, I downloaded the UBCD through Download.com at their main site. As the files downloaded, I started getting one virus warning after another and I listed them all above. After the download stopped, I swept my machine and both AVG and Bit Defender identified the same viruses.

    I did read the UBCD link re: false positives. Being a virgin and not a hip techie, I depend on my anti-virus programs to identify, isolate and hopefully neutralize viruses. Like many, many people out here who do not want to spend hours and days sorting out what two different sites say in complete contradiction to each other, we uneducated and unwashed pray that eventually program providers and virus experts will eventually talk to each other and resolve this geekeze that is a major pain in the *** to everyone. I have prayed for 20 years that Microsoft and other suppliers would finally provide a simple, user-friendly diagnostic system built into Windows that would explain in real English what a problem is and prescribe a solution. Not jibberish error messages and referrals to manuals -- printed or online -- that are packed with more geekeze that cannot be deciphered by anyone who is not a programmer.

    Now, after that rant, I want to assure you that I am not criticizing you personally. I have just had it up to here with conflicting "expert advice." This forum has been a godsend to all of us who are not card-carrying geeks and I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy day to answer my question.

    Disclaimer: no hamsters were injured while typing this message.

    And I grew up on a chicken farm and attended many rural circuses, so I am somewhat of an expert about observing geeks and their seeming relish in biting the heads off chickens.

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    1bn0

    I'm not sure what your original problem is. It sounds like it may be more than one thing.
    I would recommend you take it to a technician who can deal with it in person. (Sometimes that the only way to really tell whats going on )


    I understand your frustration.
    I've been in IT for over 16 years, it doesn't go away, it just changes.
    Some of learn patience and acceptance.
    And enjoy the challange.

    I really did not want you to be alienated from a very usfull set of utilities.
    There are many things like the UBCD. It IS difficult to know what to use and an experience like yours doesn't make things any more enjoyable.

    Good Luck.