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September 21, 2012 at 5:19 am #2171034
Why is the $@#*!-ing ‘Print Screen’ key still called that when it doesn’t??
Lockedby charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
Thanks. I feel much better now.
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September 21, 2012 at 5:40 am #2887643
cause some $$@@***## at Microsoft decide to use it for seomthing else -nt
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
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nt
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September 21, 2012 at 8:15 am #2887626
I don’t mind it being used for something else,
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to cause some $$@@***## at Microsoft decide to use it for seomthing else -nt
but how about relabeling the !$!$@#-ing thing? ‘Scr Cap’, maybe.
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September 21, 2012 at 8:28 am #2887624
cause the keyboard layout and keys are set to a standard set years ago
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I don’t mind it being used for something else,
and not every company reassigns the keys or commands within their software the way Macrostuff do.
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September 21, 2012 at 6:48 am #2887635
What does scroll lock, pause, and break do?
by slayer_ · about 11 years, 6 months ago
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I know what Control + break does…..
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September 21, 2012 at 7:40 am #2887631
damn little now, for the same reasons as stated before
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to What does scroll lock, pause, and break do?
all those button go back to the days of DOS, but like the Ctrl+Alt+Del command, they’ve been taken over with other things. Most systems now days the PrtScr takes an image of the screen and stores it in the clipboard. I believe the Scroll Lock has been surpassed by the scroll wheel on the mouse (except on an Apple mouse) now.
Oh, I used to use the Pause Break when I was wanting to interrupt a .bat or .cmd file while running, but that was many years ago.
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September 28, 2012 at 10:31 pm #2888216
Scroll lock
by boxfiddler · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to What does scroll lock, pause, and break do?
stops you from navigating a spreadsheet via arrow keys. 😐
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September 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm #2887614
Repost as ‘Q&A’
by hal 9000 · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Why is the $@#*!-ing ‘Print Screen’ key still called that when it doesn’t??
Try reposting this in the ‘Q&A’ forum. The ‘Discussion’ forum is for matters of general discussion, not specific problems in search of a solution. The ‘Water Cooler’ is for non-technical discussions. You can submit a question to ‘Q&A’ here:
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[b]As if I need to tell you this Pally.[/b]
But if this helps what version of Win are you attempting to destroy? With XP and 7 on this Microsoft Keyboard the Print Screen at least copies a screen dump to the Clipboard where it can be accessed. :p
Col
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September 21, 2012 at 1:34 pm #2887608
Col, with all respect due a skilled technician with your level of expertise
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Repost as ‘Q&A’
how about you ingest feces and cease metabolic function? 😀
What inspired this rant was a legacy application. The app has a built-in method of rerouting the Alt-Print Screen key sequence directly to the printer. It worked in XP, but now in W7 it give an error about not being able to access the Clipboard. (It probably used the now-missing clipbrd.exe.) That doesn’t surprise me, but I don’t look forward to teaching how to copy and paste a screenshot to this dear but computer illiterate lady of an a Very Advanced Age. Next week I’ll try XP compatibility or copying clipbrd from an XP system.
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September 21, 2012 at 1:51 pm #2887606
Running clipbrd.exe….
by slayer_ · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Col, with all respect due a skilled technician with your level of expertise
Starts something called Clipbook viewer.
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September 21, 2012 at 5:37 pm #2887601
Not really,
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
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but I’m not sure what’s going on inside this legacy app. The user says the key sequence sent the window directly to the printer on her old XP system. All I know is if you click File, Print in the app, you get a pop-up saying do an Alt-Print Screen. Doing so on W7 results in another pop-up saying something like ‘Clipboard cannot be accessed.’ Apparently there was some built-in macro-like programming that could print directly from the Windows buffer.
It’s a legacy app and she’s the only one that knows how to use it or has a working copy of the app. The only way I could get it off the failure-prone XP antique was to clone ti onto a new machine. Unfortunately, there weren’t any XP drivers for this new HP and I had to jack it up to W7 to get the NIC, USB, etc. to work. Fortunately, the data is static. If the purchasing department ever gets Crystal Reports ordered, we can export the data to an SQL server. The department in question has other people comfortable with Crystal, so we won’t be dependent on the dear lady and her outdated, unsupported app.
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September 22, 2012 at 3:50 am #2887590
Best of luck with this one Pally
by hal 9000 · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Not really,
Sounds Nasty. I don’t think that XP Mode will help but then again that’s just because I’ve never had any luck with it on anything but very common programs and this one doesn’t sound overly hopeful.
Just a thought though have you looked at the Keyboard Setting in the old system. It may not be set to US Keyboard but something else which only affects a couple of keys.
Though to be perfectly honest I think that the Clipboard isn’t running or is now called something else which is what the problem here is, but it’s worth a try just in case some strange Keyboard setting was being used.
Unfortunately I’ve not had to look that closely with 7 so I really have no idea.
Col
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September 22, 2012 at 12:39 pm #2887577
I don’t think XP mode will do much either,
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Best of luck with this one Pally
but it’s easy to try. I doubt it’s a keyboard setting; I’m the one who would have had to set it up.
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September 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm #2887566
Palmy, I’m sure it’s a redirection of the keyboard command within the
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I don’t think XP mode will do much either,
operating system, so you can thank the Gates Gotya Guys for it.
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September 24, 2012 at 7:46 am #2887524
But if it was a key redirect,
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I don’t think XP mode will do much either,
would the behavior on the XP system apply to all apps, not just this legacy one?
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September 24, 2012 at 10:09 am #2887513
Palmy, a lot would depend upon what command the application
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I don’t think XP mode will do much either,
is sending to the operating system, I say that because some apps already have a key redirect for that and some other keys built in, so the OS redirect doesn’t happen until it hits the OS. Hell, it may even be the app with the built in redirect is redirecting AFTER the OS, it’s hard to say without opening up the code for each app and seeing how they’re doing it.
Any app can be written to redirect any key or command, it’s all a matter of what you want to do and take the trouble to do. The keys you mention are just function keys you can assign tasks to in the app, it’s just they’ve been assigned certain tasks in the BIOS or OS in the past and are now assigned differently – the same way the old three fingered salute works different in Windows now.
I know of apps that will ALWAYS show evey damn letter key as upper case, no matter how you type it in the first place as the app redirects all character key commands to convert to the lower case ones.
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September 24, 2012 at 11:06 am #2887509
Oh, I’m sure it’s in the app,
by charliespencer · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I don’t think XP mode will do much either,
but that means it isn’t the fault of the Billy Gates and his Redmond Boys.
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September 22, 2012 at 3:55 am #2887589
Sounds like you may need to load DOSBOX – nt
by deadly ernest · about 11 years, 6 months ago
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nt
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September 21, 2012 at 2:50 pm #2887602
OH Pally I must thank you for supporting my Mother
by hal 9000 · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Col, with all respect due a skilled technician with your level of expertise
But at 84 she’s not really that old, though by choice she is completely computer illiterate.
Telling her to use the Start Button on her XP computer to turn the computer on and off is way beyond her comprehension, she insists that there should be a different switch to turn the [b]Bloody Thing Off.[/b] Doesn’t matter that her TV only has the 1 switch to turn it on and off the computer needs to be different. 😉
Don’t you just love it when M$ breaks something that worked well in the past? But the only thing to do here most likely is to go through the entire process all over again teaching her how to use 7. Lovely Idea isn’t it?
I wish you well as Mommy drives me [b]NUTS[/b] you have my sincerest condolences, [b]HONEST.[/b]
Other than Remoting in, which is probably not an option, or going over to her, again probably not an option, those are the only way that I’ve found possible to help people like that but overall I generally just do it myself for her it saves me so much time and her the effort of not wanting to understand anything.
She insists computers are stupid but the computerized Photocopier is brilliant. Best of luck I’m sure you are going to need it. 😉
Col
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September 28, 2012 at 10:32 pm #2888215
Gadwin?
by boxfiddler · about 11 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Col, with all respect due a skilled technician with your level of expertise
Easy breezy. 🙂
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