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Windows XP sp4?

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You can buy a pc with Windows XP sp3 preinstalled.

It seems however that sp3 will retire in a year.

Will this be the end of security bug fixes for XP do you think?
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    Deadly Ernest

    for such support, MS have already cut that short a couple of times and would now seem to be two or three years after the release of the replacement OS. Or on the release date of the replacement's replacement. Your guess is as good as anyone else's until it actually stops.

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    TheChas

    Actually, were XP still in the "regular" support phase, SP2 would be fully retired in less than a year.

    Just after SP3 was released, XP entered the "Extended Support" phase. That means only "critical" security patches will be released for XP until all support is retired on April 8th 2014.

    There will not be a service pack 4 for XP. Nor, should you expect any "bug" or feature fixes.

    Chas

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    If we can get critical security updates till 2014 on sp3, we can take my wifes laptop offline by then and perhaps use it as a stand alone.

    I am not planning right now to teach her vista, since i don't know it myself.

    // Local

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    local support

    MS has lots of tables for life span of applications an operatin systems. also for critical support. i had difficulty reading and understanding them tables.

    // Local

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    TheChas

    Yes, it is a joy to track down the support life for Microsoft products.

    Windows XP is in the Extended Support phase. That means that only "critical" security patches will be published and available.

    As we observed toward the end of support for Windows 98, many patches that were rated as critical for XP were given a lower rating for Windows 98 so that Microsoft did not need to patch that code.

    If you need a new PC right now, try and make sure that it comes with a free Windows 7 upgrade. If not, you have until July 7th to pre-order Windows 7 upgrade at a reduced price.

    If you have spare hardware or at least a spare hard drive, you could download the Windows 7 Release Candidate and work with it. That way, you will have some experience to work from.

    Chas

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    local support

    Patches are released when they affect vast majority of private or corporate users.

    critical means the security hole will be known and an attack vector.

    we have not decided make and model, so we will not purchase in the next few weeks. We have to feel around first.

    And I have to choose and learn the router.

    You are right about the printer, it's gonna be a headache (for me)

    Thanks Chas

    /Local

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    I am a retired home user, Win XP Home sp2.
    I am not interested in new features, just in the critical security updates. (Before installing sp 3, it is recommended you back up completely, i hav only backed up the most essential.

    My wife wants a laptop with win xp sp3 preinstalled and ms office. i am in favor of this as long as she can get the critical updates.

    // Local

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    Gunnar Klevedal

    Hi

    Windows 7 is supposed to be released this autumn. If you can wait, and use what you already got, for a couple of months. Windows 7 Home Premium might be the thing.

    MS has taken away unnecessary stuff from Vista, made it faster and it is said to be less hungry for memory.

    When you will be able to get it preinstalled as an OEM on a brand new laptop I don't know.

    If you buy Win xp sp3 right now, and try to upgrade to Win 7, you will probably encounter some problems.(drivers etc.)

    If I had the time, I would like to wait for Win 7 SP1

    Good Luck

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    local support

    Whatever make, model , operative and applications she chooses, it is me hwo will have to support her and the whole thing. And she can be impatient., and wants everything to work in a snap.

    Wista and Win 7 i do not know. She also wants wireless, dont know that either.

    Thankful for any feedback.

    /Local

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    You

    santeewelding

    Between a rock and a hard place, dude; of your making and hers.

    Good luck.

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    ill start with the router and practise on that one.

    then ill get the laptop and use it as a standalone for a while and get familiar.

    then... zingo

    do you know if d-link 645 br is suitable?

    (with usb for the printer and external drive)

    /Local

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    TheChas

    Sounds like you should go out and get a Vista book. Get Vista Annoyances from O'Reilly, or the Vista Pocket Reference.

    For home use, insist that she get Vista Home Premium, not Basic.

    At this point, I would not seriously consider downgrading a new laptop to XP unless it is an option from the manufacture. There are just way to many hardware devices that are difficult to find XP version drivers for.

    Speaking of drivers, make sure that Vista version drivers are available for the printer, scanner, or other external hardware she will be using. If you cannot get a Vista driver, plan to replace the device. (Or, at least get her her own.)

    The transition from XP to Vista is similar to moving from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95. Or, from Windows 98 to XP. Most of the tools and options are still there, just in different places with new names.

    You can reduce some of the differences by switching to the classic start menu and classic view for folders.

    For application software, the big difference is that many use the ribbon interface rather than toolbars. Again, the same functions, just presented differently.

    As to wireless, it's just another form of networking. Get a good wireless router or access point for home. Just make sure to enable the security function and write down the key / password.

    When traveling, the most important thing is to be aware of what network you are connecting to.

    Chas

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    local support

    Sharp or OEM with rescue partition?

    sp1 or sp2?

    automatic security updates ? (MS considers almost everything of priority)

    ie7 or ie8?

    I propose a 15" 4:3 0r 16:9 screen for office work and no advanced games.
    maybe only 17" will be available. or wxga

    A bit heavy is no problem, she will not move it a lot. (or she will but she is strong)

    i'll make her a restricted user, connect an external mouse, install student office and put her in front of it. from there on we hope for a good wieving angle.

    Many thanks Chas. You cover it

    7Local

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    TheChas

    The question to ask before installing Vista SP2 and / or IE8 is if there are any critical applications that may not run properly with those updates.

    I have Vista on my laptop and as yet have not installed SP2 or IE8. I use it when I travel for business and need to know that the work applications I need will work with both updates.

    If you just plan to use "standard" applications and not access any company remote applications, there is no real reason to not install the latest updates.

    Aside from that, if you purchase a new system, odds are it will come with Vista SP2 and IE8 installed.

    Chas

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    Deadly Ernest

    for such support, MS have already cut that short a couple of times and would now seem to be two or three years after the release of the replacement OS. Or on the release date of the replacement's replacement. Your guess is as good as anyone else's until it actually stops.

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    TheChas

    Actually, were XP still in the "regular" support phase, SP2 would be fully retired in less than a year.

    Just after SP3 was released, XP entered the "Extended Support" phase. That means only "critical" security patches will be released for XP until all support is retired on April 8th 2014.

    There will not be a service pack 4 for XP. Nor, should you expect any "bug" or feature fixes.

    Chas

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    local support

    If we can get critical security updates till 2014 on sp3, we can take my wifes laptop offline by then and perhaps use it as a stand alone.

    I am not planning right now to teach her vista, since i don't know it myself.

    // Local

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    local support

    MS has lots of tables for life span of applications an operatin systems. also for critical support. i had difficulty reading and understanding them tables.

    // Local

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    TheChas

    Yes, it is a joy to track down the support life for Microsoft products.

    Windows XP is in the Extended Support phase. That means that only "critical" security patches will be published and available.

    As we observed toward the end of support for Windows 98, many patches that were rated as critical for XP were given a lower rating for Windows 98 so that Microsoft did not need to patch that code.

    If you need a new PC right now, try and make sure that it comes with a free Windows 7 upgrade. If not, you have until July 7th to pre-order Windows 7 upgrade at a reduced price.

    If you have spare hardware or at least a spare hard drive, you could download the Windows 7 Release Candidate and work with it. That way, you will have some experience to work from.

    Chas

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    Patches are released when they affect vast majority of private or corporate users.

    critical means the security hole will be known and an attack vector.

    we have not decided make and model, so we will not purchase in the next few weeks. We have to feel around first.

    And I have to choose and learn the router.

    You are right about the printer, it's gonna be a headache (for me)

    Thanks Chas

    /Local

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    local support

    I am a retired home user, Win XP Home sp2.
    I am not interested in new features, just in the critical security updates. (Before installing sp 3, it is recommended you back up completely, i hav only backed up the most essential.

    My wife wants a laptop with win xp sp3 preinstalled and ms office. i am in favor of this as long as she can get the critical updates.

    // Local

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    Gunnar Klevedal

    Hi

    Windows 7 is supposed to be released this autumn. If you can wait, and use what you already got, for a couple of months. Windows 7 Home Premium might be the thing.

    MS has taken away unnecessary stuff from Vista, made it faster and it is said to be less hungry for memory.

    When you will be able to get it preinstalled as an OEM on a brand new laptop I don't know.

    If you buy Win xp sp3 right now, and try to upgrade to Win 7, you will probably encounter some problems.(drivers etc.)

    If I had the time, I would like to wait for Win 7 SP1

    Good Luck

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    local support

    Whatever make, model , operative and applications she chooses, it is me hwo will have to support her and the whole thing. And she can be impatient., and wants everything to work in a snap.

    Wista and Win 7 i do not know. She also wants wireless, dont know that either.

    Thankful for any feedback.

    /Local

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    You

    santeewelding

    Between a rock and a hard place, dude; of your making and hers.

    Good luck.

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    local support

    ill start with the router and practise on that one.

    then ill get the laptop and use it as a standalone for a while and get familiar.

    then... zingo

    do you know if d-link 645 br is suitable?

    (with usb for the printer and external drive)

    /Local

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    0 Votes
    TheChas

    Sounds like you should go out and get a Vista book. Get Vista Annoyances from O'Reilly, or the Vista Pocket Reference.

    For home use, insist that she get Vista Home Premium, not Basic.

    At this point, I would not seriously consider downgrading a new laptop to XP unless it is an option from the manufacture. There are just way to many hardware devices that are difficult to find XP version drivers for.

    Speaking of drivers, make sure that Vista version drivers are available for the printer, scanner, or other external hardware she will be using. If you cannot get a Vista driver, plan to replace the device. (Or, at least get her her own.)

    The transition from XP to Vista is similar to moving from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95. Or, from Windows 98 to XP. Most of the tools and options are still there, just in different places with new names.

    You can reduce some of the differences by switching to the classic start menu and classic view for folders.

    For application software, the big difference is that many use the ribbon interface rather than toolbars. Again, the same functions, just presented differently.

    As to wireless, it's just another form of networking. Get a good wireless router or access point for home. Just make sure to enable the security function and write down the key / password.

    When traveling, the most important thing is to be aware of what network you are connecting to.

    Chas

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    local support

    Sharp or OEM with rescue partition?

    sp1 or sp2?

    automatic security updates ? (MS considers almost everything of priority)

    ie7 or ie8?

    I propose a 15" 4:3 0r 16:9 screen for office work and no advanced games.
    maybe only 17" will be available. or wxga

    A bit heavy is no problem, she will not move it a lot. (or she will but she is strong)

    i'll make her a restricted user, connect an external mouse, install student office and put her in front of it. from there on we hope for a good wieving angle.

    Many thanks Chas. You cover it

    7Local

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    TheChas

    The question to ask before installing Vista SP2 and / or IE8 is if there are any critical applications that may not run properly with those updates.

    I have Vista on my laptop and as yet have not installed SP2 or IE8. I use it when I travel for business and need to know that the work applications I need will work with both updates.

    If you just plan to use "standard" applications and not access any company remote applications, there is no real reason to not install the latest updates.

    Aside from that, if you purchase a new system, odds are it will come with Vista SP2 and IE8 installed.

    Chas