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XP Workgroup Networking Problem

By wolverine ·
Hi

We have a user who is trying to setup a Workgroup using 2 PCs running XP Home Edition.
He's using 2 belkin 802.11g Network cards, which are displaying OK in the Notification Area. IEEE is checked.
In the LAN properties, the following are enabled:
* Client for Microsoft Networks
* File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
* QoS Packet Scheduler
* TCP/IP (Obtain IP and DNS automatically)

However, when he clicks on 'My Network Places' -> Entire Network -> MS Windows Network -> Workgroup, the 2 PCs will only display in the Workgroup on 1 PC at a time (ie, alternating!), but clicking on the networked PC states that it is unable to retrieve information, etc, Check with the Network Administrator, etc.

He has previously had the Network up-and-running, but he reinstalled Windows, and now it won't get past this point.

Between us, we have removed the Network Cards and reinstalled them, we've run the Network Wizard 4 times, each time setting a new Workgroup name, but nothing we do can get the 2 PCs to see each other simultaneously, and they certainly won't show the shared folders, printers, etc.

Does it seem like we're missing something? Has anyone any clue as to why this could be happening? We're stumped andfrustrated.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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by wolverine In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

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by jwilczyn In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

For both boxes assign static IP addresses (on the same subnet) and/or install NetBEUI protocol. Check for the same workgroup name on both PCs.
Good luck

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by wolverine In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

I tried that; I assigned the first PC the IP of 171.172.0.1 and the second PC the IP of 171.172.0.2 Subnet for both is completed automatically, e.g., 255.255.0.0.

The Home Networking Wizard doesn't install NetBEUI on either PC; could you please explain how this would help? I thought that just TCP/IP, Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks were the only requirements for pure MS Networks?

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by saihib In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

Each machine must have the account of each user created on it. Also, have you created shares on each machine?

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by Alpha-Male In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

You shouldn't just give the machines random IP Addresses (even if you aren't connected to the internet yet). There are IP schemes that are open and can be used by anyone. These private IP addresses are:

From 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255
From 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255
From 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255

Using NetBIOS will help because it allows XP to network the old "peer to peer" way windows used to work. It's not a routable protocol, but functional in a small LAN.

Here is MS's article on installing it:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=301041

I'd still be likely to go the TCP/IP route. Here are some articles that may help you:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/homenet/default.asp

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314067

When you set up your LAN, make sure you share folders or drives...

Delete any spaces in the above URLs. Good luck...hope this helps!

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by wolverine In reply to XP Workgroup Networking P ...

As it turned out, the user had ZoneAlarm installed prior to *reinstalling XP*. Obviously the fresh installation of Windows didn't overwrite old programs, it must just update Windows itself. As such, ZoneAlarm was still installed and running, although transparent to the user (no splash screen; not listed in 'All Programs' on the Start Menu; and not visible in the System Tray/Notification Area???

However, if you went into Add/Remove Programs, ZoneAlarm was listed and (obviously still running at Start-up). The program was therefore uninstalled, and the Network now operates as before.

Anyway, thanks for all your help and time; it was greatly appreciated.

Hope this helps someone else.

Kind regards

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