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fhayden
This may be a silly question. I've graduated from college with a B.S MIS. I've got limited non technology related work experience. However, I want a career in IT but not sure doing what. Is there a job that would expose me to a variety of different are areas within IT. My problems is I like most everything Networking,Database and Systems Analysis. The only thing I'm not great at is programming. I graduated with a 3.25 GPA and got A's in my upper level IT courses even programming.

I'm kinda lucky in that I spoke with my uncle and he said he'd send me back to grad school. Of course, I'd pay him back even though he doesn't want me to. At least in school I'd be able to do internships.

Best,
FH
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    NickNielsen Moderator

    you may wish to consider file maintenance or security. The three areas you mentioned liking will all require that you do some amount of programming.

    Edit: But I'm just a hardware geek who hasn't coded in a couple of decades, wo what do I know?

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    fhayden

    A few people I know suggested that I'd probably start out doing help desk. Another person I know who is an IT consultant told me that if I go back to college I might get better internships. Hardware is something I'm interested in too. For a hobby I rebuild computers. Haven't done a laptop yet. I read the A+ cert book and took some practice tests. It doesn't seem all that hard. I'll get my A+ cert very soon.

    My problem is I just don't know enough about the occupations I'm interested in to make a decision I guess.

    Grad school is all fine and dandy but it teaches more theory and not enough hands on stuff. I'm sure and employer wants to know what I actually do to contribute to the team. I actually was looking at a Vo-tech that offers an intensive A+/networking course.
    http://erwin.edu/CourseDetail.aspx?CourseId=64

    I don't want to end up working for geek squad. I personally dislike Best Buy. I saw them charge $125 to install virus protection on some old ladies PC. Laughed my way out of the store.

    What the outlook for PC Hardware look like?

    Best,
    Frank

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    Travler92

    If your not realy sure what you want to do in the industry might i suggest a Tech support role?
    Exposure to various areas of the IT industry, PC's , Printers, Mainframe, Networking, Servers, AD as well as batch file and scripting.
    It may not be a carreer role (as it was for me) but it will give you a good base to work from.

    Good Luck

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    fhayden

    I agree, that's actually what I'm looking into now. The vo-tech offers a 15 week intensive course that will allow me to graduate with a few certs. On the other hand, the local community college offers a applied science degree that is basically the same thing. I want to do internships while going to school.

    Thanks for the help.

    Frank

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    Tony Hopkinson

    You tend to do a bit of everything, gives you a good clue at the bit's you find intersting and enjoyable.

    My first year, I was coding an inhouse app, administering workflows, installing hardware and cabling, resetting passwords, setting up users, building pcs and setting them up.

    Coding turned out to be my thing, but knowing the basics of the others, certainly didn't hurt.

    The education vs experience one is hard, look at it from the point of view of are you qualified enough to get a job that will give you valuable (career building) experience.

    You can do part time education while working, or part time work while in academia. Which one is easiest to get where you are, and will you end up benefitting most from.

    Very hard to avoid some programming in the job nowadays. Course that depends on how you look at programming, a lot of people don't consider writing admin scripts as programming but it is, as is database design, even graphical web development is, in a way.

    Language and environment change, but breaking a large task in to smaller ones is something every one does, though not always well.

    If you had two holes to dig, and you piled the soil from the first where you were going to dig the second, you are going to struggle as a programmer.

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    fhayden

    I'm looking forward to doing something. The thing that worries me is having a Masters in MIS and not enough work experience. Sure I can do a part time internship and I probably will.
    Someone told me if programming isn't my thing then networking may be the way to go. This person is an IT consultant.

    Supposedly the MIS dept offers internships to the grad student. Meanwhile, I'm planning on studying for a couple certs.

    Best,
    Frank

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    Tony Hopkinson

    Ther eis plaeny of opportunity in other parts of IT.

    If you were in the UK with a Masters I'd tell you to go for banking / investment houses.

    The money's not great at the start but they take on the newly graduated and groom them.

    If you make it, you make it big.

    Pick your internship, somewhere they do the same if you can.

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    fhayden

    That's exactly what my wife is doing. For me, I think the only way to figure things out is to do an internship. I've spoken to a few people at the University and it seems there are internships just for grad students.

    The one professor said the only way to figure things out is to just do something. You are correct that there are plenty of opportunities in IT.

    Best, Frank

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    InfoSecAuditor

    Tony has given you some good advice, Frank. We've had a similar discussion elsewhere on tech republic. Education and certs are fine, but experience is key when it comes to job searches.

    One other option you could look at is checking with your school's IT department and seeing if they have any opportunities in tech support (even an intern role). You could work there while attending grad school. Some Universities will provide discounted or free tuition if you've worked for them for a set period of time (eg., >6 months, 1 year, etc.). So you'd be killing 3 birds with one stone (work experience, grad school and paying for your education).

    Good luck.

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    retro77

    I joined the military, Marines to be specific. That gave me 4 years of experience, doing some cool stuff in IT. It still took me 3 months to land a job afterwards though.

    If your young enough, join the military.

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    NickNielsen Moderator

    you may wish to consider file maintenance or security. The three areas you mentioned liking will all require that you do some amount of programming.

    Edit: But I'm just a hardware geek who hasn't coded in a couple of decades, wo what do I know?

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    fhayden

    A few people I know suggested that I'd probably start out doing help desk. Another person I know who is an IT consultant told me that if I go back to college I might get better internships. Hardware is something I'm interested in too. For a hobby I rebuild computers. Haven't done a laptop yet. I read the A+ cert book and took some practice tests. It doesn't seem all that hard. I'll get my A+ cert very soon.

    My problem is I just don't know enough about the occupations I'm interested in to make a decision I guess.

    Grad school is all fine and dandy but it teaches more theory and not enough hands on stuff. I'm sure and employer wants to know what I actually do to contribute to the team. I actually was looking at a Vo-tech that offers an intensive A+/networking course.
    http://erwin.edu/CourseDetail.aspx?CourseId=64

    I don't want to end up working for geek squad. I personally dislike Best Buy. I saw them charge $125 to install virus protection on some old ladies PC. Laughed my way out of the store.

    What the outlook for PC Hardware look like?

    Best,
    Frank

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    Travler92

    If your not realy sure what you want to do in the industry might i suggest a Tech support role?
    Exposure to various areas of the IT industry, PC's , Printers, Mainframe, Networking, Servers, AD as well as batch file and scripting.
    It may not be a carreer role (as it was for me) but it will give you a good base to work from.

    Good Luck

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    fhayden

    I agree, that's actually what I'm looking into now. The vo-tech offers a 15 week intensive course that will allow me to graduate with a few certs. On the other hand, the local community college offers a applied science degree that is basically the same thing. I want to do internships while going to school.

    Thanks for the help.

    Frank

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    Tony Hopkinson

    You tend to do a bit of everything, gives you a good clue at the bit's you find intersting and enjoyable.

    My first year, I was coding an inhouse app, administering workflows, installing hardware and cabling, resetting passwords, setting up users, building pcs and setting them up.

    Coding turned out to be my thing, but knowing the basics of the others, certainly didn't hurt.

    The education vs experience one is hard, look at it from the point of view of are you qualified enough to get a job that will give you valuable (career building) experience.

    You can do part time education while working, or part time work while in academia. Which one is easiest to get where you are, and will you end up benefitting most from.

    Very hard to avoid some programming in the job nowadays. Course that depends on how you look at programming, a lot of people don't consider writing admin scripts as programming but it is, as is database design, even graphical web development is, in a way.

    Language and environment change, but breaking a large task in to smaller ones is something every one does, though not always well.

    If you had two holes to dig, and you piled the soil from the first where you were going to dig the second, you are going to struggle as a programmer.

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    fhayden

    I'm looking forward to doing something. The thing that worries me is having a Masters in MIS and not enough work experience. Sure I can do a part time internship and I probably will.
    Someone told me if programming isn't my thing then networking may be the way to go. This person is an IT consultant.

    Supposedly the MIS dept offers internships to the grad student. Meanwhile, I'm planning on studying for a couple certs.

    Best,
    Frank

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    Tony Hopkinson

    Ther eis plaeny of opportunity in other parts of IT.

    If you were in the UK with a Masters I'd tell you to go for banking / investment houses.

    The money's not great at the start but they take on the newly graduated and groom them.

    If you make it, you make it big.

    Pick your internship, somewhere they do the same if you can.

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    fhayden

    That's exactly what my wife is doing. For me, I think the only way to figure things out is to do an internship. I've spoken to a few people at the University and it seems there are internships just for grad students.

    The one professor said the only way to figure things out is to just do something. You are correct that there are plenty of opportunities in IT.

    Best, Frank

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    InfoSecAuditor

    Tony has given you some good advice, Frank. We've had a similar discussion elsewhere on tech republic. Education and certs are fine, but experience is key when it comes to job searches.

    One other option you could look at is checking with your school's IT department and seeing if they have any opportunities in tech support (even an intern role). You could work there while attending grad school. Some Universities will provide discounted or free tuition if you've worked for them for a set period of time (eg., >6 months, 1 year, etc.). So you'd be killing 3 birds with one stone (work experience, grad school and paying for your education).

    Good luck.

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    retro77

    I joined the military, Marines to be specific. That gave me 4 years of experience, doing some cool stuff in IT. It still took me 3 months to land a job afterwards though.

    If your young enough, join the military.