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Can I upload my lost Outlook Express emails back to the server?

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Can I upload my lost Outlook Express emails back to the server?

leeivy_ca
I have been using Outlook Express to access my SBC Yahoo home email for years. Suddenly this week all my folders became empty. I found that when I integrated Norton Internet Security's anti-spam package with my OE, that integration turned off the "leave a copy of messages on server" option -- That seems to have caused the server to think I had no old emails in my Inbox, Sent Items, etc.

I do full backups of the PC where I am running OE, so I should (if I can find it) have a locsl copy of all the old emails.

Is there a way to tell OE to upload all those old emails back to the sbcglobal.net server?
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    Absolutely

    Once you change the setting in Outlook back to "leave a copy of message on server", any messages in your Inbox should go back to the server. To check, put some messages in Inbox, then close Outlook and login to the webmail feature. Do you see your old messages in your Inbox looking like new messages?

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    leeivy_ca

    No, I did not see my old messages re-appear, either on the web or in the OE application. My Inbox had appeared empty when I entered OE after the flag was changed, and it stayed empty except for new messages received after the event.

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    Absolutely

    1. find your local backup, (file).pst
    2. import that file into OE

    Then, when you see the messages in OE, then move them all to the OE Inbox, then close OE & check webmail. Sorry, I skipped the parts you mentioned in your original message, but you were Absolutely Right about needing to find your local backup first.

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    ozi Eagle

    Hi,

    The *.pst file is for outlook, not outlook express.
    OE keeps its folders in
    Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities\aef.....hjfd\microsoft\outlook express.

    You will need to allow viewing of hidden files.
    Open windows explorer, tools, folder options, view, select SHOW HIDDEN FILES.

    Unfortunately I have no idea if these will be reflected back to the server.

    Herb

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    leeivy_ca

    Many thanks to those who replied. I think you were right on target, but I ran into some difficulties.

    The OE data files are in fact under Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities -- But there is something strange about the identities folder. It contains 1 subfolder with a gibberish name.

    When I tell Explorer to "view hidden files", that folder appears empty, with a last update date of 2004 (when my PC was new). But when I search for all files modified today, it shows files in the folder, containing only my new emails received & sent since the "disaster" a few days ago.

    I thought, "that's OK, I just need to retrieve those files from my backups and copy them into place" -- But the backup software that came with my Maxtor external drive didn't see the files inside that folder either -- it has a Retore menu that lets you browse thru what they've backed up, and it didn't show anything under Identities. So I'm afraid they were never backed up!

    Fortunately I did not keep TONS of important information in the emails on this account, so I guess I can live without it. But I hate the idea of losing saved emails.

    My advice to anyone who uses Outlook Express and is counting on OE to save a local copy of your email -- Go grab your own copy occasionally and save it in another folder on your hard drive, or it may disappear one day.

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    ozi Eagle

    Hi,

    The gibberish name is OK, don't ask me what it means. Anyway click on the gibberish and then further folders will appear \gibberish\microsoft\outlook express.

    What I have done with my email folders is to place them in a folder that is regularly backed up. I call the folder EMAILS (original ain't it?). Now in OE\ tools - options - maintenance select STORE FOLDER, change it to be this new EMAIL folder and then copy all the contents of the original OE folder to it. There will be a message somewhere along the lines that the new folder contains stuff, do you want to clear or keep? KEEP otherwise you will create a new blank folder.

    Alternatively you could try importing messages from within OE from your old gibberish folder.

    Herb

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    leeivy_ca

    Changing the Store Folder worked great, now my local copy of OE messages is in a well known location that my backup software can find. I recommend this to any OE users.

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    haltrade

    About 6 months ago all my OE mails disappeared. I didn't succeed to get them back.

    In February 2009 my received mails disappeared between January 20 and February 12 2009

    The day before yesterday all my sent mail disappeared again.

    What is the reason of these extremely disagreable events. Can OE find a solution that it shouldn't happen again?

    Regards dr. Ivan Halasz

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    adprocas

    Although it was a long time ago that this was posted, I searched around for a solution to this yesterday.

    The easiest way to do this is to create another email account in OE for the Yahoo account. Set it up as IMAP

    Incoming Server - imap.mail.yahoo.com
    Outgoing Server - smtp.mail.yahoo.com
    Incoming Port - 993 (requires SSL)
    Outgoing Port - 465 (requires SSL/TLS)

    Then, remove the password from the other account and make sure Outlook isn't remembering the password.

    Select all emails from the other account and move them to the newly created IMAP account - sit back and watch them move.

    Make sure you're moving and not copying, though. I started copying - the copy was interrupted. I then had to find where it left off and then select only the ones that hadn't been copied. Moving makes this much easier. I'm also moving 6,000+ emails, so it gets interrupted every once in a while with a poor internet connection that is constantly up and down already.

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    TheChas

    Did you look in your Yahoo Trash folder and see if your old mail files are there?

    Further, I would recommend doing the exact opposite of what you are doing for email storage.
    Create local folders and sort your mail accordingly. Then, delete items from your web account after you have them backed up.

    Also, if you are using Outlook Express, I presume you have a Windows XP system. When you upgrade, Outlook Express will no longer be an option. I recommend that you switch to either Mozilla Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook before any OS update or transition to a new computer.

    Chas

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    leeivy_ca

    Many thanks to those who replied. I think you were right on target, but I ran into some difficulties.

    The OE data files are in fact under Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities -- But there is something strange about the identities folder. It contains 1 subfolder with a gibberish name.

    When I tell Explorer to "view hidden files", that folder appears empty, with a last update date of 2004 (when my PC was new). But when I search for all files modified today, it shows files in the folder, containing only my new emails received & sent since the "disaster" a few days ago.

    I thought, "that's OK, I just need to retrieve those files from my backups and copy them into place" -- But the backup software that came with my Maxtor external drive didn't see the files inside that folder either -- it has a Retore menu that lets you browse thru what they've backed up, and it didn't show anything under Identities. So I'm afraid they were never backed up!

    Fortunately I did not keep TONS of important information in the emails on this account, so I guess I can live without it. But I hate the idea of losing saved emails.

    My advice to anyone who uses Outlook Express and is counting on OE to save a local copy of your email -- Go grab your own copy occasionally and save it in another folder on your hard drive, or it may disappear one day.

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    haltrade

    About 6 months ago all my OE mails disappeared. I didn't succeed to get them back.

    In February 2009 my received mails disappeared between January 20 and February 12 2009

    The day before yesterday all my sent mail disappeared again.

    What is the reason of these extremely disagreable events. Can OE find a solution that it shouldn't happen again?

    Regards dr. Ivan Halasz

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    adprocas

    Although it was a long time ago that this was posted, I searched around for a solution to this yesterday.

    The easiest way to do this is to create another email account in OE for the Yahoo account. Set it up as IMAP

    Incoming Server - imap.mail.yahoo.com
    Outgoing Server - smtp.mail.yahoo.com
    Incoming Port - 993 (requires SSL)
    Outgoing Port - 465 (requires SSL/TLS)

    Then, remove the password from the other account and make sure Outlook isn't remembering the password.

    Select all emails from the other account and move them to the newly created IMAP account - sit back and watch them move.

    Make sure you're moving and not copying, though. I started copying - the copy was interrupted. I then had to find where it left off and then select only the ones that hadn't been copied. Moving makes this much easier. I'm also moving 6,000+ emails, so it gets interrupted every once in a while with a poor internet connection that is constantly up and down already.

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    TheChas

    Did you look in your Yahoo Trash folder and see if your old mail files are there?

    Further, I would recommend doing the exact opposite of what you are doing for email storage.
    Create local folders and sort your mail accordingly. Then, delete items from your web account after you have them backed up.

    Also, if you are using Outlook Express, I presume you have a Windows XP system. When you upgrade, Outlook Express will no longer be an option. I recommend that you switch to either Mozilla Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook before any OS update or transition to a new computer.

    Chas

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    Absolutely

    Once you change the setting in Outlook back to "leave a copy of message on server", any messages in your Inbox should go back to the server. To check, put some messages in Inbox, then close Outlook and login to the webmail feature. Do you see your old messages in your Inbox looking like new messages?

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    leeivy_ca

    No, I did not see my old messages re-appear, either on the web or in the OE application. My Inbox had appeared empty when I entered OE after the flag was changed, and it stayed empty except for new messages received after the event.

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    Absolutely

    1. find your local backup, (file).pst
    2. import that file into OE

    Then, when you see the messages in OE, then move them all to the OE Inbox, then close OE & check webmail. Sorry, I skipped the parts you mentioned in your original message, but you were Absolutely Right about needing to find your local backup first.

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    ozi Eagle

    Hi,

    The *.pst file is for outlook, not outlook express.
    OE keeps its folders in
    Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities\aef.....hjfd\microsoft\outlook express.

    You will need to allow viewing of hidden files.
    Open windows explorer, tools, folder options, view, select SHOW HIDDEN FILES.

    Unfortunately I have no idea if these will be reflected back to the server.

    Herb

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    leeivy_ca

    Many thanks to those who replied. I think you were right on target, but I ran into some difficulties.

    The OE data files are in fact under Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities -- But there is something strange about the identities folder. It contains 1 subfolder with a gibberish name.

    When I tell Explorer to "view hidden files", that folder appears empty, with a last update date of 2004 (when my PC was new). But when I search for all files modified today, it shows files in the folder, containing only my new emails received & sent since the "disaster" a few days ago.

    I thought, "that's OK, I just need to retrieve those files from my backups and copy them into place" -- But the backup software that came with my Maxtor external drive didn't see the files inside that folder either -- it has a Retore menu that lets you browse thru what they've backed up, and it didn't show anything under Identities. So I'm afraid they were never backed up!

    Fortunately I did not keep TONS of important information in the emails on this account, so I guess I can live without it. But I hate the idea of losing saved emails.

    My advice to anyone who uses Outlook Express and is counting on OE to save a local copy of your email -- Go grab your own copy occasionally and save it in another folder on your hard drive, or it may disappear one day.

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    ozi Eagle

    Hi,

    The gibberish name is OK, don't ask me what it means. Anyway click on the gibberish and then further folders will appear \gibberish\microsoft\outlook express.

    What I have done with my email folders is to place them in a folder that is regularly backed up. I call the folder EMAILS (original ain't it?). Now in OE\ tools - options - maintenance select STORE FOLDER, change it to be this new EMAIL folder and then copy all the contents of the original OE folder to it. There will be a message somewhere along the lines that the new folder contains stuff, do you want to clear or keep? KEEP otherwise you will create a new blank folder.

    Alternatively you could try importing messages from within OE from your old gibberish folder.

    Herb

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    leeivy_ca

    Changing the Store Folder worked great, now my local copy of OE messages is in a well known location that my backup software can find. I recommend this to any OE users.

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    haltrade

    About 6 months ago all my OE mails disappeared. I didn't succeed to get them back.

    In February 2009 my received mails disappeared between January 20 and February 12 2009

    The day before yesterday all my sent mail disappeared again.

    What is the reason of these extremely disagreable events. Can OE find a solution that it shouldn't happen again?

    Regards dr. Ivan Halasz

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    adprocas

    Although it was a long time ago that this was posted, I searched around for a solution to this yesterday.

    The easiest way to do this is to create another email account in OE for the Yahoo account. Set it up as IMAP

    Incoming Server - imap.mail.yahoo.com
    Outgoing Server - smtp.mail.yahoo.com
    Incoming Port - 993 (requires SSL)
    Outgoing Port - 465 (requires SSL/TLS)

    Then, remove the password from the other account and make sure Outlook isn't remembering the password.

    Select all emails from the other account and move them to the newly created IMAP account - sit back and watch them move.

    Make sure you're moving and not copying, though. I started copying - the copy was interrupted. I then had to find where it left off and then select only the ones that hadn't been copied. Moving makes this much easier. I'm also moving 6,000+ emails, so it gets interrupted every once in a while with a poor internet connection that is constantly up and down already.

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    TheChas

    Did you look in your Yahoo Trash folder and see if your old mail files are there?

    Further, I would recommend doing the exact opposite of what you are doing for email storage.
    Create local folders and sort your mail accordingly. Then, delete items from your web account after you have them backed up.

    Also, if you are using Outlook Express, I presume you have a Windows XP system. When you upgrade, Outlook Express will no longer be an option. I recommend that you switch to either Mozilla Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook before any OS update or transition to a new computer.

    Chas

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    leeivy_ca

    Many thanks to those who replied. I think you were right on target, but I ran into some difficulties.

    The OE data files are in fact under Docs & Settings\<user>\local settings\application data\identities -- But there is something strange about the identities folder. It contains 1 subfolder with a gibberish name.

    When I tell Explorer to "view hidden files", that folder appears empty, with a last update date of 2004 (when my PC was new). But when I search for all files modified today, it shows files in the folder, containing only my new emails received & sent since the "disaster" a few days ago.

    I thought, "that's OK, I just need to retrieve those files from my backups and copy them into place" -- But the backup software that came with my Maxtor external drive didn't see the files inside that folder either -- it has a Retore menu that lets you browse thru what they've backed up, and it didn't show anything under Identities. So I'm afraid they were never backed up!

    Fortunately I did not keep TONS of important information in the emails on this account, so I guess I can live without it. But I hate the idea of losing saved emails.

    My advice to anyone who uses Outlook Express and is counting on OE to save a local copy of your email -- Go grab your own copy occasionally and save it in another folder on your hard drive, or it may disappear one day.

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    haltrade

    About 6 months ago all my OE mails disappeared. I didn't succeed to get them back.

    In February 2009 my received mails disappeared between January 20 and February 12 2009

    The day before yesterday all my sent mail disappeared again.

    What is the reason of these extremely disagreable events. Can OE find a solution that it shouldn't happen again?

    Regards dr. Ivan Halasz

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    1 Votes
    adprocas

    Although it was a long time ago that this was posted, I searched around for a solution to this yesterday.

    The easiest way to do this is to create another email account in OE for the Yahoo account. Set it up as IMAP

    Incoming Server - imap.mail.yahoo.com
    Outgoing Server - smtp.mail.yahoo.com
    Incoming Port - 993 (requires SSL)
    Outgoing Port - 465 (requires SSL/TLS)

    Then, remove the password from the other account and make sure Outlook isn't remembering the password.

    Select all emails from the other account and move them to the newly created IMAP account - sit back and watch them move.

    Make sure you're moving and not copying, though. I started copying - the copy was interrupted. I then had to find where it left off and then select only the ones that hadn't been copied. Moving makes this much easier. I'm also moving 6,000+ emails, so it gets interrupted every once in a while with a poor internet connection that is constantly up and down already.

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    TheChas

    Did you look in your Yahoo Trash folder and see if your old mail files are there?

    Further, I would recommend doing the exact opposite of what you are doing for email storage.
    Create local folders and sort your mail accordingly. Then, delete items from your web account after you have them backed up.

    Also, if you are using Outlook Express, I presume you have a Windows XP system. When you upgrade, Outlook Express will no longer be an option. I recommend that you switch to either Mozilla Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook before any OS update or transition to a new computer.

    Chas